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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:59 AM Nov 2019

Anonymous is Kirstjen Neilsen

100% guaranteed.


The excerpts read just like her speech patterns.


She was gutless to stop Kids in Cages... and now she is gutless about putting her name on the book.

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Anonymous is Kirstjen Neilsen (Original Post) scheming daemons Nov 2019 OP
Stunning analysis. NCLefty Nov 2019 #1
Ok.... You'll end up with 2 farms after you win. scheming daemons Nov 2019 #3
no boss dweller Nov 2019 #5
Writing such a book is NOT gutless, elleng Nov 2019 #2
Not putting your name on it is gutless. scheming daemons Nov 2019 #4
Not only anonymous but everyone who didn't come forward to tell America blueinredohio Nov 2019 #9
Agreed. There should be consequences for those who found out... brush Nov 2019 #22
They are this close to changing our government without changing one word in the Constitution. CrispyQ Nov 2019 #29
As 'gutless' as is a whistle-blower remaining anonymous. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #31
Not even remotely the same scheming daemons Nov 2019 #32
maybe not stopdiggin Nov 2019 #10
nielsen seems like an awful person; elleng Nov 2019 #34
Several pundits have said it's a woman staffer dawg day Nov 2019 #6
Probably trying to avoid being a sacrifice to the rethuglicon gods. democratisphere Nov 2019 #7
Ex-FBI Agent Claims Kirstjen Nielsen Is Anonymous Author Of Book Portraying Donald Trump As Mentally Celerity Nov 2019 #8
Makes sense. I can't exactly put my finger on what it is mahina Nov 2019 #11
There's an app out there on the internet somewhere which, if you run text through it... SuprstitionAintthWay Nov 2019 #36
Some people think it's ScabbyAnne Conjob. I hate her either way. :p NCLefty Nov 2019 #12
I hope it's not Kellyanne Mike 03 Nov 2019 #18
Are you sure she's the Conway to which they refer? Arthur_Frain Nov 2019 #35
Fascinating! Kick and rec. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #13
Nope it is Barrone whistler162 Nov 2019 #14
I thought he/she was someone who is babylonsister Nov 2019 #15
"Current or former official" Mike 03 Nov 2019 #17
It's Trump. Yavin4 Nov 2019 #16
My vote is Jared superpatriotman Nov 2019 #19
Remember how Anonymous used the term "lodestar" in the editorial? Mike 03 Nov 2019 #20
Why would she suddenly babylonsister Nov 2019 #21
Ok, LOL, how has the experts missed this? Nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #23
They haven't scheming daemons Nov 2019 #24
This morning's WaPo story shows this is someone who was present Mike 03 Nov 2019 #28
I think it's a staffer still in the White House Baked Potato Nov 2019 #25
It has to be someone who still has a conscience and empathy 2naSalit Nov 2019 #26
She cosigned babies in cages. Fuck her. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2019 #27
She should be in prison Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #30
Remaining Anonymous is gutless and unpatriotic. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #33

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
1. Stunning analysis.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 02:04 AM
Nov 2019

I'm betting the WHOLE farm! I'll call you back after I win and you can come live on my yacht.

:p

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
9. Not only anonymous but everyone who didn't come forward to tell America
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:54 AM
Nov 2019

how crazy he really is are gutless. He should have been removed as soon as they found out. But none of them care because they are stacking the courts and getting all their ducks in a row before anything is done. After that we are screwed seven ways to Sunday.

brush

(59,591 posts)
22. Agreed. There should be consequences for those who found out...
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:27 AM
Nov 2019

trump was dangerously unfit for office and threat to our nation, and the world really and did nothing.

Consequences for sure and even worst or those who have stayed or the duration like Kelly Ann Conway.

CrispyQ

(39,490 posts)
29. They are this close to changing our government without changing one word in the Constitution.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:05 AM
Nov 2019

The GOP has been playing the long game while the dems have been in reactionary mode. Biden still thinks that GOP congress will work with him. I love Biden, but that's just

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
32. Not even remotely the same
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:52 AM
Nov 2019

The whistleblower is a career public servant, who followed proper whistleblower law guidelines.

"Anonymous" was a politically appointee of Trump's, who was in a position of influence and power. They did not go through the whistleblower law, and their book is a political act to cover for their own complicity in the crimes of this administration.

After Trump is out of office, this cowardly "Anonymous" will come out - and claim that "see? I was against him all the while."


Meanwhile, they aided and abetted his crimes.

stopdiggin

(13,603 posts)
10. maybe not
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:14 AM
Nov 2019

but serving such a master (for anything longer than 2-3 weeks) shows a startling lack of character and moral fiber. Nielsen was responsible for implementing the child separations and "children in cages" policies.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
7. Probably trying to avoid being a sacrifice to the rethuglicon gods.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 02:38 AM
Nov 2019

Don't know that I blame her for being Anonymous.

mahina

(19,700 posts)
11. Makes sense. I can't exactly put my finger on what it is
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:14 AM
Nov 2019

About the language that clearly sounds like a woman but it is unmistakeable.

Not that all women compose that way but no men do that I’ve ever met or read.

36. There's an app out there on the internet somewhere which, if you run text through it...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:18 PM
Nov 2019

professes to tell you with good reliability whether the writer was male or female.

It's been out there since the 2000s at least, I don't know if its been tested for rigor and either proved useful or debunked.

But yes sexuality is a continuum so even a good text analysis algorithm for gender is going to be imperfect.

I'm not vouching for it. I just remember running the JonBenet Ramsey "ransom note" through it and it indicated the several pages-long "note" was written by a female. Which fit my and many people's "theories of the case," i.e. that Patsy Ramsey had to have written it.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
12. Some people think it's ScabbyAnne Conjob. I hate her either way. :p
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:57 AM
Nov 2019

She's just too annoying to be in my space.



Mike 03

(18,396 posts)
18. I hope it's not Kellyanne
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:42 AM
Nov 2019

I preordered the book and if it came out today that it's her, I'd un-order. I don't believe it's someone who still works at the WH.

Arthur_Frain

(2,229 posts)
35. Are you sure she's the Conway to which they refer?
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:33 PM
Nov 2019

I always thought her husband was. Technically, he doesn’t have insider status, but his marriage gives him entree to the clique. Plus I agree with you that she is repellant, and the garbage that comes out of her mouth is true blue trumper humper horseshit.

If she ever had a ‘come to Jesus’ moment about what she was truly involved in here, I wonder if she would have helped her husband write the book by being his mole, but continue to play the loyalist? Starting to make up my own conspiracy theory bullshit here, but if that’s what’s going down, she deserves an Emmy for her act.

Mike 03

(18,396 posts)
13. Fascinating! Kick and rec.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:46 AM
Nov 2019

I never once considered her. This is a great guess. The timing works out well too, as I believe it's someone who no longer works in the administration. She had very good access but also her own non-WH space, and now she's had several months to actually work on the book (probably with a ghost writer).

Mike 03

(18,396 posts)
17. "Current or former official"
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:41 AM
Nov 2019

according to the publicity for the book and related articles.

It could be someone still there, but IMO the risk is too great for someone currently working there to write an entire book because the odds of remaining anonymous are slim to none in something of this length. My money is on this being in the "former" category.

(Or, if someone at the WH abruptly resigns in the next week or two, that could be a clue.)

I'm hoping it is Nielson because that rules out it being someone who left years ago (Tillerson, Cohn, McMaster, etc.) and couldn't add much to what we already know from people who spoke to Bob Woodward.

Mike 03

(18,396 posts)
20. Remember how Anonymous used the term "lodestar" in the editorial?
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:15 AM
Nov 2019

And now we learn she believed Pence would have been on board with the 25th amendment? Some readers thought the use of "Lodestar" was a rather amateurish attempt to frame Pence as the author of the Anonymous piece.

Just think it's interesting.

For the record, I don't believe Pence would have been on board, but what do I know?

Mike 03

(18,396 posts)
28. This morning's WaPo story shows this is someone who was present
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:57 AM
Nov 2019

at meetings involving border security, was focused on the "cruelty" of trump, and contains other clues that definitely make her a good candidate. She also talks about mass resignations (presumably within her department) and that has also been written about since her resignation and even recently when someone left DHS. There were "purges" of people at DHS, some of the reporting described them as.

Neilson could also have been the source for the story that Trump had told border security to go ahead and break laws and he would pardon them, because Anonymous criticizes Trump for believing pardons are like get out of jail free cards he could hand to anyone who'd broken the law. This is all matching up.

2naSalit

(96,471 posts)
26. It has to be someone who still has a conscience and empathy
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:50 AM
Nov 2019

Nielsen has none of those traits. I think it's possibly more than one person.

Johnny2X2X

(22,749 posts)
30. She should be in prison
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019

In a just world, she'd be sent to prison for what she did to families at the border. She's a sick and disgusting excuse for a human being. That she thinks Trump is a dangerous psychopath is no penance for the people she's harmed. I hope she rots in hell after hanging herself from guilt.

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