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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:21 PM Nov 2019

Speaking of Harry Truman, was he the last president not to have a vice president?

I mean, for more than a few minutes.

I posted a couple pictures of him here: Photos from Michael Beschloss. Then it was off to Wikipedia. His entry says, in part:

Harry S. Truman



33rd President of the United States

In office
April 12, 1945 – January 20, 1953
Vice President: None (1945–1949)[a]
Alben W. Barkley (1949–1953)

{snip}

Harry S. Truman (May 8, 1884 – December 26, 1972) was the 33rd president of the United States from 1945 to 1953, succeeding upon the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt after serving as vice president. He implemented the Marshall Plan to rebuild the economy of Western Europe, and established the Truman Doctrine and NATO.

He had no VP for his first term.

There's a footnote to that factoid, but I didn't pursue it. What was it, the 25th Amendment that remedied that situation?

I know I could look it up, but....
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Speaking of Harry Truman, was he the last president not to have a vice president? (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 OP
Depends on the duration you're willing to consider Shrek Nov 2019 #1
Yeah, come to think of it. But that was cleared up in a few days? Weeks at most? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #3
Couple of months for Ford Shrek Nov 2019 #5
I don't think Johnson had one until Jan. 1965 trackfan Nov 2019 #2
Hmmmmm. That one should be within my memory. No VP from mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #4
I believe it was Nixon. Scoopster Nov 2019 #6
Nixon actually wrote to House Minority Leader Ford to recommend possible VPs. Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #11
Coolidge didn't have a VP from 1923-1925... Drunken Irishman Nov 2019 #7
So both forty-five and forty-six years ago today, we had no vice president. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #9
I had no idea there were vacancies underpants Nov 2019 #10
Yeah, that's because it not really a "chain of command" situation... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #12
This would make a great Final Jeopardy answer. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #8

Shrek

(3,977 posts)
1. Depends on the duration you're willing to consider
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:26 PM
Nov 2019

Both Nixon (after Agnew's resignation) and Ford (after his accession to the presidency) went without a VP for a while.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
3. Yeah, come to think of it. But that was cleared up in a few days? Weeks at most?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:29 PM
Nov 2019

Not just left to stay that way from April 12, 1945, through January 20, 1949, nearly four years.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
4. Hmmmmm. That one should be within my memory. No VP from
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:30 PM
Nov 2019

November 22, 1963 through January 20, 1965, over a year.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
6. I believe it was Nixon.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:44 PM
Nov 2019

Gerald Ford, who was House Minority Leader at the time, became VP after Spiro Agnew resigned. The vice presidency was vacant for a couple days before Ford was nominated, and it was almost two months before he was confirmed.

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
11. Nixon actually wrote to House Minority Leader Ford to recommend possible VPs.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:53 PM
Nov 2019

Nixon rejected those recommendations and chose Ford himself. How history could have been different.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
7. Coolidge didn't have a VP from 1923-1925...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:44 PM
Nov 2019

Truman's gap, 1945-1949 (roughly four years) appears to be one of the longest (and longest for a modern presidency). Here's a list of other VP vacancies:

Ford (Aug-Dec, 1974)
Nixon (Oct-Dec, 1973)
LBJ (1963-1965)
Taft (1912-1913)
Teddy Roosevelt (1901-1905)
Cleveland (1885-1889)
Garfield (1881-1885)
Andrew Johnson (1865-1869)
Pierce (1853-1857)
Fillmore (1850-1853)
Tyler (1841-1845)
Madison (1814-1817)
Madison (1812-1813)

Lots of vacancies in the 1800s - almost all for generally the same amount of time (four years). Madison had two vacancies.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
12. Yeah, that's because it not really a "chain of command" situation...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:00 PM
Nov 2019

where the 'next person' in line steps up when a VP leaves for whatever reason.

There were some around here thinking if we could pick off Trump and Pence in this fiasco, then Speaker Pelosi would step in as the next president, but it doesn't quite work that way.

Even with the 25th Amendment defining the chain of succession in emergencies, it doesn't follow that Ms Pelosi would become VP if we ousted Trump and promoted Pence.

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