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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:19 PM Nov 2019

Will the US ever be able to negotiate treaties/agreements/etc. in the future?

With Democratic Presidents making new treaties/agreements/etc. when they're in office only to have them repeatedly overturned, shredded, or withdrawn by succeeding Republican Presidents, how can we maintain the trust of other countries to live up to and honor our agreements (if we even can)? George W. Bush took us out of several agreements that Bill Clinton negotiated and now Trump is doing the same with many of the ones entered into under Barack Obama. How can we solidify these agreements so that we can keep the Republicans from simply walking away from our commitments? This is going to be an increasingly ugly situation IMHO while trying to get any kind of future cooperation with other countries.

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Will the US ever be able to negotiate treaties/agreements/etc. in the future? (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 OP
Not to mention the GOP undermining the UN for the last 60 7 years SterlingPound Nov 2019 #1
Hope we can just say we are back in... pwb Nov 2019 #2
The next President will have to work to regain the trust of our allies. Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #3
Sure, just never lose control of the White House. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #4
I know that you are being facetious Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #5
I have heard that Biden could score points in this area since he is known BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #6
Mission accomplished intrepidity Nov 2019 #7
I'm afraid you may be right. nt crickets Nov 2019 #8
I can surmise why Trump is doing what he is doing internationally Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #10
It is not just our foreign trust in danger. Would you depend on any government program Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #9
Good point Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #11
Forever, USA's prestige and influence likely have been reduced worldwide NCjack Nov 2019 #12
We are still the Big Dog on the block Baked Potato Nov 2019 #13

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
3. The next President will have to work to regain the trust of our allies.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:23 PM
Nov 2019

Trump has done a lot of damage to international relationships.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
5. I know that you are being facetious
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

but obviously that can't happen with the WH pretty consistently turning over at least every 8 years since 2000 (though hopefully we break that cycle in 2020 with a single 4 year term for Trump!) and a vast amount of the populace obsessed with blindly following their Republican overlords off the cliff.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
6. I have heard that Biden could score points in this area since he is known
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:33 PM
Nov 2019

already by our allies and wouldn't have to work to secure their trust if he wins.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
10. I can surmise why Trump is doing what he is doing internationally
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:49 PM
Nov 2019

but why would that be a general aim of the Republican Party since 2000? Republicans *used* to believe in honoring treaties (or so I thought?). Now, all they want to do is rip them up. And now that I am thinking about it, I can't think of any treaties they've actually done while in office. Does anybody remember any treaties GWB signed while in office? It seems like all they do is claim that all of the treaties that Democrats negotiate are flawed, but instead of simply renegotiating them and/or making adjustments to what they claim is flawed, they just rip them up wholesale and throw whatever's left in the shredder.

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
9. It is not just our foreign trust in danger. Would you depend on any government program
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:40 PM
Nov 2019

knowing that there is a deep bench of Republican cranks who may destroy that program on a whim?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
11. Good point
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:51 PM
Nov 2019

Though it is harder for them to get rid of legally instituted programs- but they try their hardest to corrupt them, degrade them, make them harder to access, etc.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. Forever, USA's prestige and influence likely have been reduced worldwide
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:54 PM
Nov 2019

below what is was when President Obama completed his 2nd term.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
13. We are still the Big Dog on the block
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:01 PM
Nov 2019

They will *have* to deal with us. We get our President in and get some dignity and gravitas back in the office. Trump has opened up surreptitious avenues of negotiation which will be closed with an honest administration. These back channels have always been there for exploitation. The upside is some bad actors have been exposed. There will be mistrust, as always, on all sides.

We keep plugging ahead with our agenda. Our leadership will be able to make agreements. Our country isn’t the only one going through shaky times. We will get our prestige and respect back with good people at the helm. The State Department will get fully staffed and be an effective, proud organization.

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