Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:50 AM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
Breaking News! Trump loses New York Tax Case on Appeal
He's likely to appeal it to the Supreme Court.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/04/trump-loses-appeal-of-new-york-tax-returns-case.html
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OliverQ | Nov 2019 | OP |
Roland99 | Nov 2019 | #1 | |
vsrazdem | Nov 2019 | #2 | |
MoonRiver | Nov 2019 | #4 | |
OliverQ | Nov 2019 | #5 | |
vsrazdem | Nov 2019 | #3 | |
pandr32 | Nov 2019 | #6 | |
greatauntoftriplets | Nov 2019 | #7 | |
UTUSN | Nov 2019 | #8 | |
crazytown | Nov 2019 | #13 | |
UTUSN | Nov 2019 | #16 | |
Kablooie | Nov 2019 | #32 | |
malaise | Nov 2019 | #9 | |
triron | Nov 2019 | #11 | |
Arazi | Nov 2019 | #14 | |
shanti | Nov 2019 | #19 | |
Arazi | Nov 2019 | #26 | |
Polybius | Nov 2019 | #22 | |
Arazi | Nov 2019 | #27 | |
CatWoman | Nov 2019 | #10 | |
Sugar Smack | Nov 2019 | #12 | |
randr | Nov 2019 | #15 | |
Takket | Nov 2019 | #17 | |
SWBTATTReg | Nov 2019 | #18 | |
louseb | Nov 2019 | #20 | |
bitterross | Nov 2019 | #21 | |
Polybius | Nov 2019 | #23 | |
bitterross | Nov 2019 | #34 | |
itcfish | Nov 2019 | #24 | |
meow2u3 | Nov 2019 | #25 | |
ritapria | Nov 2019 | #28 | |
OliverQ | Nov 2019 | #30 | |
StarfishSaver | Nov 2019 | #35 | |
Rorey | Nov 2019 | #29 | |
Lock him up. | Nov 2019 | #31 | |
Jarqui | Nov 2019 | #33 |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:52 AM
vsrazdem (2,148 posts)
2. Where is this info from?
Response to vsrazdem (Reply #2)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:54 AM
MoonRiver (36,926 posts)
4. Link is from cnbc. nt
Response to vsrazdem (Reply #2)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:54 AM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
5. CNBC just reported it.
The Second Circuit Court of Appeals in NYC rejected his lawyers' argument that he's immune from the judicial process.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:53 AM
vsrazdem (2,148 posts)
3. Got it, thanks.
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:57 AM
greatauntoftriplets (174,464 posts)
7. CNN is reporting this too.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:07 PM
UTUSN (67,198 posts)
8. Surely the SCotUS won't go out on a limb & saw it off behind?
Response to UTUSN (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:33 PM
crazytown (7,277 posts)
13. Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997)
SCOTUS unanimous,
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Response to crazytown (Reply #13)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:38 PM
UTUSN (67,198 posts)
16. That's what I mean, even with the current wingnuts on the court it would be so blatant
to go out on the limb, but the way things are now...
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Response to UTUSN (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:50 PM
Kablooie (18,069 posts)
32. The conservatives will probably back him on anything
I believe they’ve all been brought into his cult.
Roberts might dissent though |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:15 PM
malaise (254,274 posts)
9. Hence the move to Florida
He knew this was coming
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Response to malaise (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:19 PM
triron (21,033 posts)
11. Good point.
Not a coincidence in timing.
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Response to malaise (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:36 PM
Arazi (5,643 posts)
14. Why do you think his move to FL is tied to his tax return release?
Just because he's moved doesn't shield him from NY prosecution
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Response to Arazi (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:06 PM
shanti (21,569 posts)
19. He gets to keep Merde Lago
by moving to Florida.
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Response to shanti (Reply #19)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:01 PM
Arazi (5,643 posts)
26. That has to do with bankruptcy, not his tax returns
Response to Arazi (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:52 PM
Polybius (12,328 posts)
22. Would Florida extradite him to NY?
Depending on the charge, they either do or don't.
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Response to Polybius (Reply #22)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:03 PM
Arazi (5,643 posts)
27. He would be arrested in FL, otherwise he'd be the most famous fugitive in the world
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:22 PM
Sugar Smack (18,748 posts)
12. BREAKING: He's trying right now!
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:38 PM
randr (12,083 posts)
15. As long as we are paying for it he will continue to evade
Response to randr (Reply #15)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:44 PM
Takket (18,696 posts)
17. I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the taxpayer bill to defend his stupid ass
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:52 PM
SWBTATTReg (19,508 posts)
18. Perhaps the rest of the states where rump files taxes too in, should start doing the same...
as NY, start requesting copies of his tax papers, tax returns, etc. to investigate, being that there seems to be discrepancies in the returns vs. other facts that have been revealed. I would. He's probably cheated on his taxes massively everywhere.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:23 PM
louseb (27 posts)
20. SCCJ Roberts is certainly not going to buy Donnie's argument.
and probably neither any of his appointees.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:43 PM
bitterross (4,066 posts)
21. The smart thing would be for SCOTUS to not review.
Doubt they'll let this just stand though. Kavanaugh and Gorsuch should recuse themselves, but they won't.
Let's hope Roberts doesn't want to live with turning the President into a monarch as part of his legacy. |
Response to bitterross (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:53 PM
Polybius (12,328 posts)
23. Nixon's appointees didn't recuse themselves
But they did the right thing.
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Response to Polybius (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:25 PM
bitterross (4,066 posts)
34. Were Nixon's appointees such blatant political hacks?
I can't say I know about Nixon's appointees. I was only in 6th grade at the time and it wasn't important to me.
I suspect he appointed qualified people who may have had some inherent biases. I doubt they were such obvious political stacking of the court that Trumps appointees are. Maybe I'm wrong though. |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:54 PM
itcfish (1,812 posts)
24. They Will Appeal
to the US Supreme Court and that court will rule in Chump's favor.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:56 PM
meow2u3 (24,575 posts)
25. I don't think SCOTUS will take the case, and here's why
Guess which SCOTUS Justice is assigned to the 2nd Circuit--none other than the Notorious RBG! She's not likely to take a case that doesn't have merit.
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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #25)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:03 PM
ritapria (1,812 posts)
28. Can Trump's lawyers go to the full court to get the case heard ?
Response to ritapria (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:40 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
30. The full Supreme Court?
It requires 4 justices to hear a case. I'm not exactly sure how this works though. Since RBG controls the 2nd Circuit that this case is based in, I'm not sure if 4 other Justices can overrule her and demand it be heard, or if they can only agree to it if she allows the full court to decide if they want to hear it.
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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #25)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:30 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
35. RBG doesn't decide whether to take the case. Her role as Circuit Justice is unconnected to appeals
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:11 PM
Rorey (8,031 posts)
29. We really need to start running some "What is he afraid of" ads
If he's innocent of any wrongdoing, why is he fighting so hard to keep them out of view?
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Response to Rorey (Reply #29)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:44 PM
Lock him up. (6,160 posts)
31. Because he's guilty of everything. n/t
Response to Rorey (Reply #29)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jarqui (9,124 posts)
33. I read a bunch of the Manafort criminal court cases
A number were based on his tax returns and banking/financial info
Even the ardent Trumpsters on the jury couldn't find any way to ignore some of the cases because they were so clear cut. Having watched what happened with Manafort and knowing one is guilty of similar stuff would be pretty terrifying. And they can get him on a state level for a bunch of that stuff - he can't pardon his way out of it. Further, if he's hoping his re-election will buy him another four years and toll out the statute of limitations, he will lose some support when folks find out he isn't worth nearly as much dough as he claimed he was. Maybe he's effectively bankrupt except for income from the Russian oligarchs ... which will further implcate how the President of the US is effectively owned by Russians. If stuff like that comes out, his house of political cards implodes. |