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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:24 PM

Trump is Changing His Residence To Florida For The Same Reason O.J. Simpson Did.

And it has nothing to do with taxes. It's because Florida is one of the few States that doesn't allow your property to be seized in settlement of civil liability lawsuits. Florida is famous as a safe zone for crooks for that reason. O.J. Simpson lost the wrongful death civil suit over the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, and moved to Florida to avoid paying the $33.5 million in damages.

In my opinion, Trump is moving to Florida to avoid losing most of his alleged wealth in civil lawsuits after all this is over. I'm pretty sure he did it at the urging of his kids, and current wife, who know that, even though Trump may escape a perp walk in an orange jumpsuit, his criminal malfeasance could cost him a lot of money.

Just my two cents.

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Reply Trump is Changing His Residence To Florida For The Same Reason O.J. Simpson Did. (Original post)
TrollBuster9090 Nov 1 OP
dewsgirl Nov 1 #1
CanonRay Nov 1 #2
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 1 #3
erlewyne Nov 1 #16
RKP5637 Nov 1 #4
Cattledog Nov 1 #5
dalton99a Nov 1 #15
pandr32 Nov 1 #6
Captain Zero Nov 1 #7
nature-lover Nov 1 #8
Normanart Nov 1 #9
LuvNewcastle Nov 1 #14
not fooled Nov 1 #10
duforsure Nov 1 #11
Mr.Bill Nov 1 #17
Laura PourMeADrink Nov 1 #12
amb123 Nov 1 #13
TryLogic Nov 1 #18
jcgoldie Nov 1 #32
Orrex Nov 1 #19
George II Nov 1 #20
wnylib Nov 1 #21
cstanleytech Nov 1 #29
SCVDem Nov 1 #22
wnylib Nov 1 #24
SCVDem Nov 1 #25
Hortensis Nov 1 #28
wnylib Nov 1 #33
Hortensis Nov 2 #43
bdamomma Nov 1 #23
llmart Nov 1 #26
ReformedGOPer Nov 1 #27
yaesu Nov 1 #30
Pacifist Patriot Nov 1 #31
wnylib Nov 1 #34
Pacifist Patriot Nov 1 #35
Nevilledog Nov 2 #39
Pacifist Patriot Nov 2 #41
UTUSN Nov 1 #36
onenote Nov 1 #37
flvegan Nov 1 #38
mitch96 Nov 2 #40
Pacifist Patriot Nov 2 #42
mitch96 Nov 2 #44

Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:25 PM

1. That and the fact they are going all in on his tax returns.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:26 PM

2. Bingo

I was thinking the same thing.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:28 PM

3. Sounds like an admission of guilt to me! n/t

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:09 PM

16. Thanks CaliforniaPeggy

I don't remember her name but we had coffee together every morning
and watched tv. Our jobs were unrelated so the only time I seen her
was at coffee. This trial went on forever and we expected the obvious,
O.J. was going to get the chair.

We were shocked at the verdict and this lady was in tears, she was bawling.
But, life goes on.

I remember. back in '68, the Ohio State Buckeyes beat O.J, and U.S.C.
in a National Championship game, I was in the Army in Berlin, Germany.
One of my proudest moments.

O.J still has to live with a guilty conscious.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:32 PM

4. Yep!!! n/t

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:45 PM

5. From a Lawyer website in FL

"People anticipating substantial civil judgments often move from other states to Florida to become a Florida resident for asset protection purposes."

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:05 PM

15. +1

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:50 PM

6. So THAT'S the reason

Makes sense. He is protecting himself.

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:16 PM

7. Everything he does is about him.

nt

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:21 PM

8. Will we the taxpayers now pay for the security for the whole resort for their entire lives?

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:25 PM

9. When tRump is impeached

Will he still be able to get SS protection?

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Response to Normanart (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:04 PM

14. He'll have SS protection for the rest of his life, I think.

Of course, if he is impeached by the House and removed by the Senate, he will lose the type of SS protection that he gets now, just as soon as his replacement is sworn in.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:36 PM

10. Is a private club considered protected property?

Asking for a friend (of putin).


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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:42 PM

11. Maybe he's going broke

And selling stuff off and hiding his money knowing they could get his property, or lawyers are draining him quickly. Maybe he fears NY police would arrest him there. Maybe soon his lawyers will be quitting , like others have, then we find out he wouldn't pay them.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:25 PM

17. Going broke?

He's been broke for decades. He doesn't own most of those buildings with his name on them, he merely has a contract to manage them. Most of what he does own is most likely hocked for way more than it is worth. He has not provided one document to prove otherwise.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:55 PM

12. Doesn't matter where the assets are? Like in NYC?

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:02 PM

13. Also to keep Florida in his column in 2020

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:33 PM

18. Another bonus - it's close to the airport (at least that is what he has said).

If criminal proceedings progress, he might want to sneak over and hop a plane to Russia.

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Response to TryLogic (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:29 PM

32. Not just any airport

Its the largest in the world... Trump said so...

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:38 PM

19. Well, when New York arrests him for tax fraud, he'll be a New York resident again for 20 years or so

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:39 PM

20. He can't move trump tower or his golf courses to Florida. He's just minimizing his losses.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:41 PM

21. Is he trying to avoid criminal charges in NY?

Since some of his crimes involve violations of NYS laws (eg his charities frauds) can he avoid prosecution for tax evasion and other crimes in NY by moving out of state?

(On edit: He is safe from criminal prosecution in NY while in the WH. By changing state residence now he will not be a NY resident whem he leaves the WH.)

If he is planning to sell off NY properties as someone else suggested, is he going to put the money in untouchable offshore accounts so he can flee the country as soon as he is either removed by a Senate conviction or by losing the 2020 vote?

I wonder if Russian pals will buy his properties.

Even if he escapes prosecution there are still his traitorous crime pals in Congress who need to be prosecuted.

If the Senate convicts, can Congress then revoke his SS protection? We need this albatross and his offspring off of our necks.

Wish there were a way to revoke his citizenship on grounds of being a threat to our national security. Let one of his dictator pals naturalize him for their nation. Or let him and his brats be without a country.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:16 PM

29. Moving will not save him from criminal charges in New York if he broke the law in New York.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:41 PM

22. If the crimes are commited in NYC

Then who care where he moves to?

Freeze all his assets. Then call me in the afternoon!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:50 PM

24. I sure hope that Governor Cuomo and

AG Letitia James can do that before he sells off his NY properties. But is he protected from that kind of action while he is in the WH?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:58 PM

25. Did he divest?

I don't think so!

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Response to wnylib (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:08 PM

28. Is liability perhaps retroactive, i.e., would assets while he was

a NY resident and when the crimes were committed still be seizable regardless of change of residence after?

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:48 PM

33. I wish I knew the answer to that. But

although I live in NY that question is for someone with better legal knowledge than I have.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 08:55 AM

43. :) We'll be hearing at some point I imagine.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:47 PM

23. Just posting this article

which may be of interest

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/31/1896505/--Floridian-Trump-may-not-qualify-and-his-NY-audit-just-got-more-interesting-and-personal?detail=emaildkre

snip of article:


On October 7, 1885, Friedrich Trump, a 16-year-old German barber, bought a one-way ticket for America, escaping three years of compulsory German military service. He had been a sickly child, unsuited to hard labor, and feared the effects of the draft. It might have been illegal, but America didn’t care about this law-breaking—at that time, Germans were seen as highly desirable migrants—and Trump was welcomed with open arms. Less than two weeks later, he arrived in New York, where he would eventually make a small fortune.

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He married a woman from his German hometown, Kallstadt, where his parents had owned vineyards, and attempted to return home with his fortune. But when his draft dodging came to the fore, the couple lost their Bavarian citizenship and were obliged to return to America for good.


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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:02 PM

26. My take.

He was already reviled enough in New York, but after his little stint in the White House and all that's going to come out in the impeachment, he knows he won't ever be able to show his ugly orange mug in public in New York any longer. He'd be about as welcome in any of their establishments as herpes.

Besides, he's probably putting everything into Iwanka's name to keep it in the family.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:08 PM

27. He could also

try to change his running mate in 2020 from Pence to Ivanka. You can't have a president and a vp from the same state, per the Constitution. (Not that he follows it)

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:19 PM

30. and, I believe, to better protect his assets when he declares bankruptcy. nt

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:25 PM

31. I don't believe that is entirely accurate. More specifically,...

It has to do with primary residence. Moving to FL doesn't get you off the hook for paying damages awarded in a civil suit. In Florida, your primary residence is exempt from forfeiture.

The law is intended to prevent a lawsuit from rendering someone homeless. I think that is what is being exploited here.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:54 PM

34. So he decided to protect the FL property over

the NY property? It would still be possible to seize NY assets?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #34)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:13 PM

35. A lawyer will have to verify this, but I don't think NY...

Has a law that protects your primary residence. That is why he needs to establish FL as his residence. Mar-a-lago becomes primary residence rather than Trump tower penthouse. That is what is saved.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:25 AM

39. I think it's more complicated.

Florida law allows for certain protections in regards to bankruptcy and perhaps seizure pursuant to some civil judgements. However, I'd be very surprised if these protections shield someone from criminal forfeiture.

This is outside my criminal law expertise, so I'm ready for correction.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 07:40 AM

41. Very much more complicated.

But at the very least, while it affords him some property protections he wouldn't have in NY, it does not protect him from the entirety of civil suit judgments.

I'm curious about the criminal law forfeitures too, I haven't a clue about that.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:01 PM

36. K&R - all the wingnuts go to FL -

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 11:04 PM

38. Article X, Section 4 of the Florida Constitution protects homestead property

from forced sale, for almost (ALMOST) any reason. Self-imposed liens (mortgage, etc) don't apply here. It protects nothing beyond that.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 02:56 AM

40. "Trump is Changing His Residence To Florida"

Oh great........ more florida man stories.......... We already have enough wacko's here..
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 07:42 AM

42. As long as the headline is Florida Man Impeached and Removed from Office

with the body of the story mentioning something about immediate criminal charges filed. I'm really good with that!

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:16 PM

44. " I'm really good with that!"

I totally agree......... and I approve of this message.....
I never understood that statement... If your the one SAYING the message dont you agree with what your saying? Wait..... these are politicians......... ok, got it..

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