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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:14 AM

Rep Speier on Nunes' ref to House Intel being "a cult": "I know about cults."



Jackie Speier ✔ @RepSpeier

Devin Nunes calling the Intelligence Committee’s fact-finding mission a cult is dispicable. I know about cults. Cults are led by maniacal narcissists who expect complete adoration and relinquishment of independent thought. I suggest Mr. Nunes look elsewhere.

10:21 AM - Oct 31, 2019


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Speier

Speier entered politics by serving as a congressional staffer for Congressman Leo Ryan. Speier was part of his November 1978 fact-finding mission organized to investigate allegations of human-rights abuses by Jim Jones and his Peoples Temple followers, almost all of whom were American citizens who had moved to Jonestown, Guyana, with Jones in 1977 and 1978. Speier was one of two members of the mission who made wills before traveling to Jonestown.

Several Peoples Temple members ambushed the investigative team and others boarding the plane to leave Jonestown on November 18. Five people died, including Congressman Ryan. While trying to shield herself from rifle and shotgun fire behind small airplane wheels with other team members, Speier was shot five times and waited 22 hours before help arrived. That same day, over 900 remaining members of the Peoples Temple died in Jonestown and Georgetown in a mass murder-suicide.

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Reply Rep Speier on Nunes' ref to House Intel being "a cult": "I know about cults." (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Oct 31 OP
madaboutharry Oct 31 #1
dewsgirl Oct 31 #6
dalton99a Oct 31 #2
handmade34 Oct 31 #3
Wounded Bear Oct 31 #4
SergeStorms Oct 31 #19
Scarsdale Nov 1 #29
SergeStorms Nov 1 #32
gademocrat7 Oct 31 #5
treestar Oct 31 #7
malaise Oct 31 #8
SkyDaddy7 Oct 31 #9
Coventina Oct 31 #15
SkyDaddy7 Oct 31 #27
Coventina Nov 1 #33
SkyDaddy7 Nov 1 #35
Dennis Donovan Oct 31 #22
Scarsdale Nov 1 #30
bigbrother05 Oct 31 #10
Beausoleil Oct 31 #11
vishnura Oct 31 #12
MontanaMama Oct 31 #13
pandr32 Oct 31 #14
Marcuse Oct 31 #16
MarcA Oct 31 #21
gibraltar72 Oct 31 #17
Hulk Oct 31 #18
roamer65 Oct 31 #20
smirkymonkey Oct 31 #23
SammyWinstonJack Oct 31 #24
ornotna Oct 31 #25
Eliot Rosewater Oct 31 #26
bullwinkle428 Oct 31 #28
Mc Mike Nov 1 #31
They_Live Nov 1 #34
StClone Nov 1 #36

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:17 AM

1. Congresswoman Speier was a congressional aid to

Congressman Leo Ryan. She was with him at Jonestown and suffered 5 gunshot wounds.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:27 AM

6. And left for dead on that tarmac for 22 hours.😳

Until this morning, I didn't even know she was there. I was only about 1 when it happened.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:18 AM

2. Kick

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:20 AM

3. "I suggest Mr. Nunes look elsewhere"

possible at himself and the R's

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:21 AM

4. Nunes tried to run it like a cult, a Trump cult.


Remember, he was the chair of that committee that ran off to the White House to leak what they had on Trump back in '17, then declared the investigation "over" before they were really done.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:21 PM

19. And ran directly to the White House...

whenever he heard anything that pertained to the Orange Cult Leader? Nunes is as despicable as they come. The Democrats have been much more fair to Tangerine Idi Amin than the republicans were with President Clinton. Democrats actually follow the rules, which is much more than can be said for rat republicans.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:48 AM

29. The gop is a cult.

All in lockstep behind a president who does not know truth from lies. He has been breaking laws for his entire life, so why would he change now? This is fine with the gop. They are fighting a losing battle. The TRUTH will be exposed. Bill Clinton did not commit a crime. He DID disappoint many voters, however. The gop has much, much lower standards for their own "leader". Any country in the world would welcome presidents Clinton, Carter and Obama. tRump? NO THANKS. The Russian ass et is a joke worldwide, and the gop is proudly backing him up. Anyone who votes these clowns into office again is as dumb as they are.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:44 AM

32. This is what happens....

when people who've never voted in their lives decide to vote for a nationalist, racist, xenophobic liar, just because he's as ignorant as them. This is what happens when fairness and truth in the media has no place, and vicious propaganda is allowed to be aired 24/7 without any filter whatsoever.

Republicans have already forgotten about the Mueller report, which in itself holds enough impeachable offenses for any other president. Republicans have chosen party over country, and it's not even their party! It's the party of Trump now, because the republican party has ceased to exist.

If this is what our country has been reduced to, The United States of America ceases to exist. Fascism has arrived, and it's wrapped in orange skin, has some sort of sick animal wrapped around the top of it's head, is morbidly obese, and is as dumb as a rock.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:23 AM

5. Rep. Speier knows cults very well.

She was wounded and left for dead helping in the rescue of people from Jim Jones cult. Jonestown 1978. Nunes is a very despicable man. That was beyond the pale.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:33 AM

7. Typical Republican projection

Magats are the cult. The similarities are between Donnie and Jim Jones

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:44 AM

8. She knows more than most people

Well said Jackie

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:51 AM

9. Hey Nunes...Look in the MIRROR!!

All the info below came from this link.
https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html


Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
9. The group/leader is always right.
10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.


Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
2. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
4. Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
5. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
6. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supersede any personal goals or individual interests.
7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
8. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
9. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:12 AM

15. I agree with the lists, but that website is disappointing.

One of the banner images touts "Madonna's Kabbalah Center".

When you click on the link, it routes you to a YouTube video about the Berg Kabbalah Center.
Madonna was once involved with the Center, but separated from them after they took her money and did not use it as they had promised (to build a school in Africa - not a Kabbalah school, a regular school).

Madonna, understandably, became disenchanted with Kabbalah in general and the Berg's in particular.

It's very deceptive and downright unfair to have a banner headline that reads "Madonna's Kabbalah Center" when it was never Madonna's, and the relationship that once existed has now dissolved.

The organization decrying deceptive practices is engaging in deceptive practices.
Not a good look.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:37 PM

27. WOW!

Thanks for enlightening me!

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:47 AM

33. You're welcome. I hope you don't think I was blaming you at all.

And, I think the lists you posted are great.

I was just really disappointed to see that smear of Madonna, and it makes me question the rest of their content, unfortunately.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:17 AM

35. No, not at all...

I like to know these things! The last thing I want to be doing is using a questionable source or spreading questionable info. Thanks.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:35 PM

22. Nunes isn't as self-reflective as he should be

He needs to ask himself why he believes in such a blatant authoritarian as Trump.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:52 AM

30. He is too weak-willed

to think for himself, as most of the gop is.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:55 AM

10. Rep. Speier is the embodiment of a real Congressional overseas mission

She was with Rep. Ryan on a trip to a hostile location on behalf of his constituents as opposed to the Russian boondoggles favored by our current GOP members.

Jackie has the scars to show what Legislative Courage really looks like.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:56 AM

11. And she knows a maniacal narcissist when she sees one. n/t

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:02 AM

12. Mooooooooooooove on Devin,

Your days, and that of the orange shitstain are numbered.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:06 AM

13. Nunes best pack a sack lunch.

It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:06 AM

14. Touche

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:26 AM

16. I don't think most magats are as loyal.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:06 PM

21. They are as loyal in sacrificing our democracy. n/t

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:14 PM

17. She knows her shit. Therefore she knows Nunes.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:20 PM

18. Twitter...Facebook..is birdshit on the window...

Nunes gets away with saying such obscene bull shit..."a cult.."...SERIOUSLY??? Then we come back with a slap on Twitter that NOBODY SEES...and it makes no difference. WHO called his lunatic, reflection bull shit slander in the HOUSE, where he slandered the entire Democratic membership that puts country ahead of party and this grifter piece of shit!?!

We are getting our asses kicked by "playing nice" and "barking at the moon", aka Twitter, etc.

Michael Moore...Thom Hartmann....WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:26 PM

20. The Right Honorable Rep Speier just owned Nunes.

She knows what she talking about on this issue, from experience that almost cost her life.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:53 PM

23. K&R

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:13 PM

24. Repubs have no original thoughts. Copy and project. It's all they've got.😜

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:36 PM

25. He needs to look no further than the end of his nose



He's all up in that cult.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

26. put that fucker in prison where he belongs and soon

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:17 AM

31. Someone should tell the repugs their dear orange leader said it's time for 'white nights'.

That would clean the republic right up, quick.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:05 AM

34. Despicable

Despicable

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:58 AM

36. Doth protest too much-are they all culpable?

Something does not appear sensible. Are all the Nunes, Jordans and Rs in general aware of something really dark? Does the money for their party's propaganda, high living, ads, and campaigns, ALL have Kremlin connections?

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