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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:06 AM

David Corn & Dan Friedman: How Roger Stone's Trial Could Be a Nightmare for Donald Trump

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/how-roger-stones-trial-could-be-a-nightmare-for-donald-trump/



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How Roger Stone’s Trial Could Be a Nightmare for Donald Trump
Will the proceedings reveal the president lied to Robert Mueller?
David Corn, Dan Friedman


Impeachment is in the air, as House Democrats focus on the still-growing Ukraine scandal as the reason to move forward with the ultimate political punishment. But the Trump-Russia scandal is about to make its own comeback. On November 5, Donald Trump’s longtime political adviser Roger Stone—the dirty trickster who had for years encouraged Trump to run for president—will go on trial in a federal court in Washington, DC, facing charges that he lied to Congress about his interactions with WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign, as the organization was publicly disseminating Democratic material stolen by Russian hackers. Stone also was indicted for allegedly obstructing justice and witness-tampering. Though the trial will determine whether Stone tried to bamboozle a congressional investigation, it could answer two bigger questions about the president: Did Trump use (or try to use) Stone as a conduit to WikiLeaks, and did Trump lie to special counsel Robert Mueller? The former might not be illegal; the latter could be a crime.

In the publicly released version of Mueller’s final report, Stone, the flamboyant provocateur and conspiracy theorist, is conspicuously absent. The Justice Department redacted most of the portions of the report that referenced Stone because his trial was pending. So it’s unclear what Mueller had on Stone. But the report contains clues suggesting that the full story of Stone’s involvement in the Trump-Russia scandal goes beyond what’s publicly known—and that it implicates Trump.

As has been already documented, Stone, during the Russian attack on the 2016 election, repeatedly declared he was in contact with WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange. Throughout that stretch, he sent out tweets predicting WikiLeaks would release material that would torpedo Hillary Clinton’s campaign—tweets that reinforced the impression he was in communication with WikiLeaks while it was part of the Russian operation. Stone—who remained in contact with Trump and his campaign after he was ousted from his official role in the Trump 2016 effort—also privately communicated with Guccifer 2.0, an online persona created by the Russian hackers. And Stone repeatedly claimed in public that Moscow had nothing to do with the hack of the Democratic National Committee servers, echoing Moscow’s propaganda. After the Russia scandal exploded, Stone changed his story and insisted that he had not been in direct touch with WikiLeaks and Assange. That is, he has essentially said he was lying and exaggerating during the 2016 campaign. He maintained it had all been “posture, bluff, hype.”

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Will the Stone trial provide answers? A lawyer for Stone did not respond to questions from Mother Jones. But any material presented in the courtroom that fills in the redactions would go far toward resolving all this. The evidence could also reveal whether Trump lied to the special counsel—which would be obstruction of justice and a crime. (Mueller’s final report, however, noted that Justice Department policy prohibits the indictment of a sitting president.) Throughout the Russia scandal, Trump has been caught in assorted lies, as he has continuously denied or dismissed the Russian attack that helped him become president. That scandal may be taking a back seat to the Ukraine controversy fueling the ongoing impeachment inquiry (though, in a way, the Russia affair led to the Ukraine scandal, with Trump pressing the Ukrainian president to investigate—and prove—a nutty conspiracy theory that claimed Moscow did not hack the 2016 election). This trial of a conniving Trump confidante who specializes in the political dark arts will be a reminder of the original scandal of the Trump administration that has tainted and undermined his presidency, and it could add another big lie—and a possible crime—to Trump’s long record of wrongdoing.

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Reply David Corn & Dan Friedman: How Roger Stone's Trial Could Be a Nightmare for Donald Trump (Original post)
babylonsister Oct 31 OP
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 31 #1
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BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #2
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:17 AM

1. will Stone flip?

I expect his ego to let his motormouth slip a few times, but will he give up more info to get a lighter sentence?

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:15 PM

4. No, and he's already getting ready for his new prison ink

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:29 PM

5. well, there went lunch

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:18 AM

2. If Stone gets thrown under the bus

then it may end up being a Bolton-equivalent situation!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:07 PM

3. Living Link to Roy Cohn

And Paul Manafort, with a whole lot of Rubles in-between.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:45 PM

6. Maybe they will kill him too. nt

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