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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:27 AM

Senate GOP shifts tone on impeachment

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/468246-senate-gop-shifts-tone-on-impeachment

Senate GOP shifts tone on impeachment

By Alexander Bolton - 10/31/19 06:00 AM EDT

Senate Republicans are taking the House impeachment proceedings against President Trump more seriously as damaging revelations against the president mount and the possibility of a quick dismissal of the charges shrinks.

Earlier this year, GOP senators pledged to quickly quash any articles of impeachment passed by the House. But as the Democrats compile more evidence that Trump withheld military assistance from Ukraine to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, they are adopting a more sober tone.

While no Senate Republican has said the charges against Trump rise to the level of being an impeachable offense, many have expressed concern over the drip-drip of damaging revelations.
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It’s a more measured tone than Republicans used when the House was considering impeachment proceedings based on former special counsel Robert Mueller’s lengthy investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 presidential election and subsequent attempts to obstruct his investigation.
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Now Senate Republicans are treating the allegations that Trump improperly withheld military assistance to Ukraine in an attempt to gain a political favor much more seriously than they did the findings of the Mueller report.
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((IMO, nothing has changed except that Repugs claim now they're not dismissing the situation out of hand.))

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:01 AM

1. Death by 1,000 cuts proving to be too much....

Arousing concern amongst Senate Republicans.

Who in their right minds can continue to support a man who believes himself above the law, thus untouchable, to continue on as POTUS? Their linking themselves to him is proving dangerous to their political futures. Good!

AS the saying goes..."You go to bed with DOGS, you wake up with fleas."

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:57 AM

6. That was Rick Wilson's strategy advice to Dems

Maybe it will turn out to be correct.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:47 AM

15. He has been right so far. #ETTD.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:35 AM

14. I think that will end up being Trump's defense in the end

"If Trump Does it, It's Not Illegal"

I think even the SCOTUS (save Brett Kavanaugh) wouldn't agree with that argument

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:08 AM

2. I don't think they've changed positions one iota

They're just not articulating their intentions to the public as they have in the past.

They know their colleagues in the House are about to attempt to conduct a shadow impeachment, where the purported villains of Democratic lore - Hillary Clinton, George Soros, Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Nancy Pelosi, et al. - will be subpoenaed for crimes having nothing to do with Trump or his litany of malfeasances. This will be a trial by FOX intended to obfuscate, confuse and enrage the Democrats, and to pave the path for a no impeachment vote by the Senate.

You know it's what they're going to do.

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:35 AM

3. If you wanted to see the GOP take up arms against holding up military aid,

it would have to concern Israel, not the Ukraine.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:31 AM

12. +1

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:41 AM

4. Moscow Mitch is using these gop

clowns to protect himself and his fortune. He could care less if tRump is the biggest crook in the WH. Moscow Mitch has a lucrative business deal with a Russian oligarch, and NOBODY is going to get in the way of that. USA be damned, Moscow Mitch puts himself and his money above all else. Sadly, the gop seems oblivious to his manipulations. How is the investigation into his wife going?

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:52 AM

5. So lying about a blow job rises to the level of an impeachable offense, but endangering the lives of

thousands of Ukrainians by withholding military aid and millions of Americans by endangering our national security doesn't.

Got it.

They make me sick.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:56 AM

16. Yep.

They have no morals. Hypocrites!

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:57 AM

7. Something interesting on Morning Joe this morning.

I was listening rather than watching so I don’t know who said this, but the comment was that Republicans are waiting until the November 5 election results to gauge Democratic support. They’re watching two elections especially: the governor of Kentucky and the race in Virginia. If Democrats win, it could cause some Republicans to change their stance. They’re more worried about holding on to the Senate than holding on to the presidency because with a Senate majority they can just stifle any serious policy changes as they did with Obama.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:06 AM

10. The incumbent GOP governor in KY is underwater in the polls in KY right now but ...

... expect him to win anyway because the voting there is way dirty. His win in 2015 was
very suspect.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:11 AM

11. McCONnell consider ultimate triage: sacrifice tRump to save Senate majority. . . . nt

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:59 AM

8. Thry have to be careful

Especially those who are standing for election. Considering the seriousness of the charges, they run the risk of looking like the partisan hacks they are if they it blow off. They need Trump's base, yes, but most of them will need more than that to win reelection. I'm sure not a few of them are nervously doing the math and will tread a little lightly. I suspect that they will be considering their gravy trains, and not what is fundamentally just, but they will be considering.

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:05 AM

9. I think about all the Republican Senators that voted to convict Clinton when he was impeached

Essentially Clinton lied about a consenting sexual relationship in a deposition. Yes, that is perjury. It was also a private lawsuit brought against Clinton. Not trying to excuse it, just trying to add context.

Trump used his position as president to bride/blackmail another country's leader by withholding federal aid (approved by Congress) unless said leader agreed to open a criminal investigation into one of his political opponents (who also happens to be our country's former vice president).

I don't see how Republicans, especially those who are leftovers from the Senate in 98-99, can do anything but vote to convict. They are essentially saying lying about a blow job is worse that putting our national security in harm's way.

Graham, who was in the House, and McConnell, who was in the Senate, were very much in favor of convicting and removing Clinton. So let's start there.

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:33 AM

13. Military assistance to deter Russian aggression

Just another proof that the traitor is working for Putin


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:09 AM

17. Yup with Traitor Trump, all roads lead to the tiny little man in Russia

If shorty Putin wants to stop that Ukraine funding, approved by our US elected representatives, you can bet the traitor will stop that funding.

Putin is the actual leader of the US. Those RepubliCON Senators will never, ever vote to impeach Trump because Putin has already told them how to vote.

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:20 AM

18. This is a pretense.

The Senate Repugs are pretending to be open-minded because it looks better politically.

But it doesn't matter how serious the charges are, or how strong the evidence is -- They're going to protect Trump regardless.

This is just a pretense.

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