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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:02 AM

Wyden: Ban voting machines connected to the internet




Voting machines that are connected to the internet are ripe for hackers who want to interfere in America’s elections. States are still able to ignore these new federal election security guidelines, leaving the votes of millions of Americans vulnerable.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/new-voting-machine-rules-061966

The #SAFEAct contains a mandatory ban on the use of voting machines that are connected to the internet. It's time for the Senate to pass it.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:06 AM

1. Take the White House and the Senate, in spite of the lack of election protection, and maybe...

...such legislation will have a chance.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:17 AM

2. we just got an amazing new voting system here

Nothing is connected to the internet except the voter registration lists.

We check them in, create an access code, they touch screen the ballot, print it and drop it in the scanner.

100% paper backup and the scanner is totally stand alone and just counts and totals.

It is an awesome system. When the voter has made selections and printed the ballot, the slate is wiped clean in the voting machine; the next voter gets a new access code which will bring up the proper ballot

Now we can vote in any precinct on election day even if it is clear across the county from where we live.

I have been training election judges on this equipment and the more I use it the more I am impressed with it

BONUS we no longer need to pre print thousands of ballots which will not be used. All of the ballots are blank until the voter prints their selections.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:25 AM

4. if it's a ballot marking device that prints out barcodes and names, it's no better than a

DRE other than the fact that it's more devious because it makes you think you have a paper ballot backup. The problem is that your vote is 100% unverifiable.

Humans do not read barcodes and that is what a recount will read -- barcodes.

Have you ever shopped at a market and the price on the shelf says one thing, but then you see your receipt [which records what's in the barcode) and discover a discrepancy in price? This is the problem with these barcode paper "ballots."

And elections officials will run the paper thru a scanner to read the barcodes in the event of a recount and/or audit, and it will be the same garbage.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:30 AM

6. Its one thing to have a paper trail. Its another to have it used and not just locked away.

As has been shown over and over.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:20 AM

3. voting machine corps & elections officials lie about the fact that the machines have wifi/internet

capability. Now in LA, thanks to a nearly $300 million dollar expenditure, you can now download your sample ballot to your smartphone from the internet, bring it to the polls and have the "voting machine" scan the QR code to record your "vote"

Nothing could possibly go wrong

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:40 AM

5. Voting in South Australia

Low tech is best . . .

Voter rolls (paper) are at each station, get name ticked off. (Later voter rolls are cross checked to see that you only voted once. Or didn't vote at all. Voting here is compulsory.)

Given printed ballot, put marks on it, post in box.

Votes counted. Recorded. Boxes sealed, sent off somewhere for a verification count.

Takes a few days to get final results - BUT low cost, low tech, employs a few people for the counting, results going to be believable.



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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:28 PM

7. kik

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:48 PM

8. Ban all voting machines.

Paper ballots and hand counts.

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