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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

It's Worse Than Lies: There's No Word in the English Language for What Trump & Co. Are Doing

Itís Worse Than Lies: Thereís No Word in the English Language for What Trump & Co. Are Doing
A lie is when you cover up or deflect. But proclaiming the opposite of the truth to be true is something else.


Michael Tomasky
Special Correspondent

In 2010, researchers from Harvard and Google put their heads together to determine that there are roughly 1,022,000 words in the English language. The Oxford English Dictionary lists around 600,000.

Either way, thatís a lot of words. But there isnít a word in the English language for what Donald Trump and the Republicans are doing.

They are no longer merely lying. Lying is covering up the truth. Lying is, No, Mom, honest, I didnít break Aunt Donnaís Hummel. Or: No, Your Honor, I did not bilk my investors out of $4 million and abscond to Grand Cayman.

What these people are doing goes way beyond that. Itís a direct nuclear assault on the truth. Itís not: I didnít break the figurine. Instead, itís:

Mom, not only did I not break it, but Susie broke it, and I painstakingly glued it back together after she did so, and the facts that a) Susie has been away at camp all this time and b) youíre looking at it there on the dining room table in 37 pieces are tricks, delusionsómanifestations of a vast, fake-news conspiracy against me orchestrated by Susie and Aunt Donna. Theyíve met together recently on more than one occasion, after all, and people are saying that Aunt Donna bought two boxes of Samoas and one box of Tagalongs from Susie; and that, dear Mother, is proof of the cabal!

For this, we do not have a word. In the entire English language. Chew on that for a minute.

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Reply It's Worse Than Lies: There's No Word in the English Language for What Trump & Co. Are Doing (Original post)
Demovictory9 Oct 30 OP
RainCaster Oct 30 #1
triron Oct 30 #3
2naSalit Oct 30 #6
RainCaster Oct 30 #7
2naSalit Oct 30 #8
NBachers Oct 31 #15
I_UndergroundPanther Oct 31 #23
roamer65 Oct 31 #25
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 30 #2
Garrett78 Oct 30 #11
triron Oct 30 #4
NRaleighLiberal Oct 30 #5
2naSalit Oct 30 #9
NCLefty Oct 30 #10
world wide wally Oct 31 #12
LineReply I
Dan Oct 31 #13
muriel_volestrangler Oct 31 #18
Poiuyt Oct 31 #14
Demovictory9 Oct 31 #22
Deb Oct 31 #16
Cha Oct 31 #17
kentuck Oct 31 #19
moondust Oct 31 #20
ggmac0427 Oct 31 #21
roamer65 Oct 31 #24
nolabear Oct 31 #26
Hekate Nov 1 #27

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

1. I think there is a word: coprophagy

If I had to break it down to a single word, that would be it.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

3. Please explain the semantics.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

6. I'm interested in

your etymological thought process. Please share! TIA

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

7. What came immediately to mind was a dog eating its poop

This is a very kind way of saying that.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

8. Okay, I can see that.

It's an interesting concept. I have lived through/survived having more than one family member who thinks and acts like this and i have never come up with a term or even a description of what it would look like in another context.

But I would argue that your word, which I like BTW, doesn't complete the scenario to be described.

My description, to add on to yours, would be more like a dog eating its fecal matter but then spitting it out all over everyone and then biting the victims for smelling bad. It would have to be a compound term consisting of more than one word to fully imply the whole concept.

Maybe this: Accusatory coprophagenous spewing... or something similar..? In this case it would have to be a verb phrase since it's something they are doing.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:38 AM

15. You're on to something; but I'd suggest coprophyxia- from Maggot Brain- "Drown in my own shit."

The intro to the song by Funkadelic- "Maggot Brain;" the trump administration and the republicans are really trying to drown us in their own shit.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:01 PM

23. Yeah it fits,we have kakistocracy.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:13 PM

25. We are near what I call kleptocratic fascism.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:57 PM

11. Thanks. While I completely agree with the author's points, it's tough enough getting...

...Democrats and members of the media to call Republicans liars (as if stating the obvious is somehow disrespectful or not taking the high road) without coming up with an even stronger word.

Again, though, the points are well-taken. The Republican Party, with virtually no exceptions, is ethically bankrupt and is not acting in good faith. You can't compromise with people who constantly lie and cheat, with people who promote an alternate reality. This ain't the party of Ike.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

4. Worse than treason.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

5. blatant immorality

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:46 PM

9. Certainly one of the worst cases of any known to modern society...nt

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:50 PM

10. It's Trumpism.

I think we can and should lay this at his feet, even though Republicans have been doing it to some degree forever.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:33 AM

12. I think "Absolute Bullshit" might be appropriate

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:44 AM

13. I

I will stick with ď1984Ē doublespeak.

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Response to Dan (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:32 AM

18. The adjective 'Orwellian' does fit quite well

though Wikipedia points out that "doublespeak" doesn't appear itself in '1984'; there's "doublethink" (what the masses are meant to employ to accept the lies fed to them), and "Newspeak" - the deliberate restriction of the language to stop dissent or individual thinking. Doublespeak is more used for manipulation of the language, rather than an assault of the basic facts and reality.

"Counterfeit reality"?

I found this word in a Thesaurus search: "knavigation": A statement or story that is characteristic of a knave, esp. in being dishonest or fraudulent.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:01 AM

14. Slightly off topic, but I once tried to find a single adjective to describe trump

Nothing seems adequate:

Mean, cruel, malicious, vicious, sadistic, bullying, vindictive, depraved, corrupt, unethical, arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic, self-centered, insecure, paranoid, petty, thin-skinned, childish, immature, petulant, incompetent, fascist, jingoist, xenophobe, racist, bigot, demagogic, psychopathic, fucking moron.

All of these are accurate, but there isn't one word that encompasses all of them.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:49 PM

22. he is in a league of his own.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:49 AM

16. Devious and conniving work for me.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:12 AM

17. Gaslighting! The Twilight Zone!



Thank you, Michael Tomasky!

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:52 AM

19. Post-treasonous

It's what happens after treason.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:06 AM

20. Foxworld?

For 25+ years they've been misleading people into believing the truth is whatever narrative you want it to be. Life is easier in the alternate reality bubble...until the actual truth comes barging in.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:17 PM

21. Tie it to the biggest offender

Let it be known as Trumped-up News. Weíll all recognize itís not just a lie, but some fabricated story to replace the truth.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:10 PM

24. It's called Doublespeak.

Doublespeak actually covers inversion of truth.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

26. Viking. As a verb.

Pillaging, destroying, looting, laying waste to. Itís all they care about. We are tools to gain spoils and power.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:33 AM

27. "There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men bad enough for such treachery." ...

So said Treebeard. So say I.

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