Does anyone else feel that the Washington booing was a turning point?

[OAITW r.2.0]

This was a nation-wide reality check on what a broad, unfiltered crowd of Americans really sound like with their political wake-up call. Really discounts a planned and manufactured PR effort to find 5000 rubes (er,people) to show up at Trumps /Nazi rallies. Watch how the Trump supports continue to melt.

[applegrove]

1. Exactly. They have massaged all crowds or people Trump is in contact with.

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. Thanks Applegrove!

I think we met here in the 2000's. I was kinda suspect at the time. but I've read so many great comments and postings from you that I have to apologize for my original reactions to your posts

Best regards!

[applegrove]

6. I don't recognize your name. Has it changed?

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. Old and In the Way.

I was a badass in the early oughts!

[applegrove]

14. I'm bad with names. Maybe you had me on block?

[OAITW r.2.0]

18. Never blocked you, but we all change over time, eh?

Honorary Canadian here, by heritage and proximity. Frome Maine.

[applegrove]

20. Where are your ancestors from in canada?

[OAITW r.2.0]

24. Grandfather - Blanchette from Sherbrooke, I think.

Close to St. Ann de Beauprue (?)

My Grandmother was from Country Cork.

Irish Catholic vs. Hugonistic Pentacostal (?) It wasn't pretty for them back in the 20's.

[applegrove]

25. I've not found any french canadians in my tree. If i had we could be cousins.

[OAITW r.2.0]

26. Well, we are probably connected thru our political reality!

I am OK with that.

[applegrove]

67. Yes!

[OAITW r.2.0]

69. Well, if you are into this stuff.

qMy roots are in Canada, Scotland,irelaand. I am a immigrtant...is Donald Trump?

[applegrove]

70. Trump's grandfather hung out in the Yukon for a bit. I think Trump's mom was an immigrant.

[katmondoo]

78. My father and grandparents were French Canadian, from Quebec

[applegrove]

80. Cool. If you go there some of the language is ancient french .... that

is how long they've been settled there. The french in France no longer use some of the vocabulary. Still the best place to dine in canada.

[NanceGreggs]

29. Welcome back!!!

I remember you well!

[OAITW r.2.0]

38. That is special, coming from you Nancy.

Hats off to you for what you contribute to DU. {This is hard because I have to make my fingers type what I am thinking). The fingers are too - damn - slow.

Anyways, lets continue the good fight on the Organized Crime Party, formally known as the GOP. It's RICO, Nancy!

[Pluvious]

84. Welcome back mon. A friend of the Devil is a friend of mine :)

Back in the oughts, we thought we knew evilness with the vile Cheney and its cohorts...

Little did we know it was just a warmup, eh.

[OAITW r.2.0]

85. Amen!

Though, to be honest, I never really left. DU is my must go site for all things political.

It's amazing as to how the GOP gets incrementally worse over time. I thought Nixon was the lowest point that Republicans would go....then we had Reagan, then Bush/Cheney, and the absolute lowest, Mr. Trump.

[Pluvious]

87. Yeah, the Orange BLOTUS has set an unbreachable bar for the GOPers n/t

[applegrove]

11. Remember when a woman on the bike gave him the finger and it made

news? We never see him travel except for helicopter. That is probably a security thing. I remember when Reagan came to ottawa first they repaved the ceremonial route and then the day of ss people were parking their cars on an angle, over the curve, and all wearing pilot shades and trench coats. We knew exactly where Reagan was going to drive. Was true with George W. Bush too. When Obama was in town i wondered if i would see him drive by the mall i had to work at. Turns out he was a block away walking around the Byward Market saying hi to people. I missed him. But it was not announced. Or telegraphed.

[OAITW r.2.0]

16. Truth be known, that is really where we fucked up as a country.

Reagan gets full credit. He hired Bush for VP and they made the deal for cheap oil while we live with the results.

I came of voting age in the early 70's. Fuck the Republicans! Then I read the Eisenhower Republican Platform and I say, wow. He got it. He understood the Anerican people cuz he watched them fight in WW2. His debt to this country was paid with his political platform in 1954 (I believe).

[applegrove]

19. Yes. Reagan was the fisrt GOP robot. Trump is the latest (except for trade and the wall).

He has given the right wing so much and the people of the US so little.

[busterbrown]

57. Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.. (Wow!) That's Perfect..Just came to me..

Yea... Reagan was a slick dancer for Republican Partiers.. Soft spoken..had a the perfectly cool low energetic effective speaking quality..which made him look/sound like a competent President....But let me tell ya.. Ronald Reagan did a hell of a lot of damage to our country! Big Fing Time.. and I just love his 2 kids... So frustrating..

[unblock]

2. So many things should be the turning point, and yet...

Indeed, the media should clearly note every staged performance he gives, and prominently declare that he can't face a normal crowd without getting resoundingly boo'd.

And he knows it, which is exactly why his crowds are all filtered and stacked and prepped.

But they won't. Because the media still is heavily biased against us.

[Hoyt]

3. There have been so many "turning points" that didn't pan out. But trump was shaken last night.

I'm sure he'll take it out on poor people, rather than actually saying, "Donald, you might only have one more year at best, so you better do some things that people will remember you for beyond spreading hatred, ignorance and crime."

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. Agreed. This wasn't those perky Democrats carpping about Trump.

This was a bunch of baseball fans, left and right, that came to watch the game. I suspect that those that heartily boo'ed Trump were not challenged by his supposed supporters. That show last night will get many Trumpster's to rethink their politics.

[druidity33]

75. Not sure it would've happened in TX... K&R, nt.

[Wiseman32218]

5. Unfortunately No

It is no surprise that the blue D.C. crowd would do this, the problem is with the middle of the country. <sigh>

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. Fortunately, I do doubt it.

Starts somewhere...from the in, out makes total sense. The reality is, no more public showings before Impeachment. That is Trump's reality.

[UniteFightBack]

39. This. nt

[OAITW r.2.0]

45. Odd comment from someone who signs in as "Unitefightback".

But, whatever....I'm sure you support democracy and diversity at your core being.

Otherwise, you wouldn't be posting here....correct?

[UniteFightBack]

46. "This" is an "odd" comment....I'm going to leave this right here. You have a peachy night. nt

[obamanut2012]

72. You don't understand who the Nats fans are in that stadium

"DC Crowd" to you is "urban blacks." NOVA, Maryland, the area south of Woodbridge and north of Richmond are all quite red (NOVA depends on which area). Lots of non "DC Crowd," lots of white people booing him who are in no way "blue."

[zentrum]

9. Not sure. Because

......it might be a media driven and media enlarged story, while only a small minority were actually chanting and booing.

Can never tell what's really happening in those videos of pans of huge crowds.

It's certainly makes for a helpful headline. But is even that being reported everywhere, in the MSM, or only on sites like DU?

[groundloop]

61. Listen to the audio - that was no 'small minority'

I've heard audio clips of the chanting from several different locations in the stadium..... it was YUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!

[zentrum]

82. Did listen.

Lots of it was just general stadium fan noise.

Couldn't tell that it was from different sections---but if so, great!

[TreasonousBastard]

12. Yeah-- truth is that I've been seeing us all get closer to the...

tipping point, and that may have been it.

Nixon was re-elected with 60% of the popular vote, and every state but Mass. That was in '72. By '74 Barry Goldwater and a few others convinced him that he had only a dozen or so votes in the Senate to beat impeachment. What happened?

It took one lousy tape to change the the President who opened China, battled the Soviets in the Cold War, fought for school integration, gave us the EPA, and almost gave us health care to become the lowlife that we see him as now.

Trump is way past that, but has enough PR savvy to keep it under wraps.

[OAITW r.2.0]

22. I'm with you TB!

Been thru 3 of these Presidential Impeachments. My quick recall-

Nixon - Deserved - He wanted inside dirt on the Democratic Party. Why?, to create a single Party political environment with his Party in control..

Clinton- Blowjob with a consenting adult. Undeserved. Total BS reasons....unless every goddam President should answer for their Big Libido's. See Gingrich and Livingstone managing their consorts during impeachment.

Trump - Are you shitting me? He is owned by Putin. Nuff said. Traitor.

Any other point of dicussion?

[argyl]

48. Nixon signed NEPA into law. That is all.

[Sherman A1]

13. Nope

Not in the least. I’m confused that anyone would draw that conclusion.

[Corgigal]

21. I feel the same,

but I’m fearful for someone new he’s gonna hurt. He will not forget those boos and some innocent group will pay.

[blm]

32. Hmmm ... good point.

[OAITW r.2.0]

40. So what is small penis Trump going to do?

Declare war on the sane people? He cannot do that cuz only (maybe) 35% of the people still believe his bullshit.

Trump is fucked, like no President in our history.

[Sherman A1]

71. I believe that he already has declared war on sane people

Long before he was running for office. As to anything else, time will tell, but I’m not optimistic.

[still_one]

15. Unfortunately no. This process has only just started, and with all the misinformation

getting pushed out their, along with the delays, obstruction, etc. I suspect it will get worse before it gets better

[world wide wally]

17. It was just the affirmation that the turning point has been reached

[TheRealNorth]

23. Some in the mainstream media and other commentators are trying to spin this though.....

into, "How dare the liberals disrespect the office." or "They were mean to Trump on the same day he kills the leader of ISIS."

[The Genealogist]

77. I think this will be what determines the "final score" on this incident

I think it will depend on how much much of the public falls for the spin. No doubt many in the media were salivating for a chance like this to portray Trump as a sympathetic figure. He deserves every boo, in my opinion, and far, far more.

[Jarqui]

28. When he attended the ball game, Trumps shorts were probably

still damp from the premature ejaculation thrill of being in on getting to kill someone .

His narcissism probably had him expecting thunderous cheering for having the courage to sit in a safe room thousands of miles away watching the US military kill terrorists, women and children.

From the look on his and Melania's face, that booing was a pretty serious lunch bag let down.

Millions of viewers saw it during the game. And then the media and social media picked it up - so hundreds of millions or billions of people around the world saw it and/or know about it. It was a great thing for America that the rest of the world got to see that.

It was not a good thing for Trump that the power brokers in the back room of the GOP, deliberating if they should bet billions of dollars and wager their political fortunes on Trump, got to see it too.

[OAITW r.2.0]

30. Sorry! Last night the Trumpster got derobed.

It wasn't pretty, but traitors never are glamorous. Deal with it DJT...your options to flee are closing as we speak.

[blm]

31. Yo Old. You're right. For the FOX crowd that was likely the first time

they heard how the rest of America feels about him. FOX has kept them propagandized.

[OAITW r.2.0]

33. Hi blm! Thanks for commenting on my thread!

You are awesome! You always post reality...and you've done it for a loooooooong time! The "Fox Crowd" is shrinking as we speak. The breadth and depth of Americans willing to call Bullshit on this Bogus Administration is snowballing.

[blm]

34. ((Old))

[OAITW r.2.0]

49. Hey, lets enjoy growing Old together!

You are, in my best old time resurrection of a compliment, sharp as a tack!




Off topic-

Can we get a Greatful Dead "Steal Your Face" smilie....preeety please?

[blm]

54. Heh ... trying to sweet talk me out of a

Deadopoly game?

[OAITW r.2.0]

59. Damn.....Listening to Dave Bromberg, Stealin', Album: Recklass Abandon.

Watch it on Yubetube.

Listening to Bromberg and Keb Mo now.

[ancianita]

35. If it's a turning point on the senators' votes, I'd call it a turning point. We'll see. It was

a great national statement, for sure.

[Loki Liesmith]

36. Best not to build narratives around singular events.

[homegirl]

37. And The Mighty Donny Has Struck Out....

LIL DONNIE AT THE BAT by W Earl Brown

The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the Traitorous nine that night;
as they strode in late, a strutting, chest-puffing sight.
With McCarthy’s lips orange-stained and Scalise’s the same,
a mighty roar began to grow among the patrons of the game.

“Something very big has just happened” tweeted in expectation;
a terrorist vanquished brought dreams of adulation.
Trump was sure to be held high up on the Jumbotron,
raucous cheers were sure to shower down upon Lil Don.

But an immigrant sang the Anthem, bringing the crowd to its feet.
T’were an ominous premonition before Donny took his seat.
So upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat,
with Schadenfreude in the On Deck, readying his mighty bat.

The camera found its bounty as announcer keyed his mic,
the time to smile and gloat was now directly in his sight.
Visions of Glory danced in Lil Donnie’s head,
the self-aware few near him became suddenly filled with dread.

As their visage flashed large upon the huge screen,
the multitudes saw through them, saw the grandstanding scheme.
Billion dollar smiles turned sour the moment it turned clear;
they were not welcomed in this glorious World Series year.

Arm Candy’s smiles and Donnie’s wave were quickly replaced
by sullen visage as Blue Steel appeared upon their face.
Toady Gaetz loudly yelled, hoping Lil Donnie wouldn’t hear,
a fifty-thousand strong, oh-so-mighty jeer.

An Hero’s Welcome was a fool’s game plan,
after his crimes and treason had been exposed to man.
It pained him worse than fastball to the cup,
as the many Mighty Americans round him chanted “Lock Him Up”

They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
as Schandenfreude smacked a four-bag-dinger yet again.
The sneer is gone from Don’s lip, his teeth are clinched in hate;
a Twitter tantrum soon coming as he hurls White House plates.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in MAGAville— Lil Donnie has struck out.

[MFGsunny]

60. + 1 million n/t

[homegirl]

62. What does

n/t mean?

[MFGsunny]

63. Urban dictionary :: n/t means no (additional) text ................... n/t

[renate]

81. That's wonderful!!

Thanks for posting that!!!

[IronLionZion]

41. Deep state is diabolical

Watch him spin it as somehow Hillary and Obama's goons arranged for a stadium full of deep state operatives to boo him during the world series!



baseball is as American as it gets, and he's met with opposition there.

[OAITW r.2.0]

43. That's Reality, though.

He'll never show his face in public again. LD just said this while I was typing, lol!

#TrumpTurkey.....make it happen. Hope Trump Pence exit b4 Thanksgiving.

[Akacia]

65. Or that George Sorros paid them.NT.

[IronLionZion]

66. I got my payment in cash, so no paper trail

[Gore1FL]

42. I guess it depends on who you want to see awakened.

It was enjoyable. It was clearly not expected. It did get into the news cycle. I don't know if it will change any votes, however.

[OAITW r.2.0]

44. Interesting.

Seems like we, as a big group, make significant changes is quick time. Why wouldn't we all say "enough is enough"? he can't deliver anthing because we know his agenda. And his Record!

[Kid Berwyn]

47. Trumputin's expression made it clear.

He knows the jig is up — and that means his followers soon will, too.

[McKim]

50. Yes, It Was a Turning Point!

Yes, this was a big turning point. This is a country that worships sports. And we a are a country that has blurred Patriotism into the world of sports. Baseball is a very traditional American thing, like apple pie. The stadium full of fans who boooed him and chanted “Lock him up!” Are a cross section of America. It was public and it was broadcast. Yes, the Foxistas would be surprised by this. The tied has turned for sure!!!!!!

[OAITW r.2.0]

51. LOL, Trump is on the "Losing Team"

That ain't changing. He is FUCKED. Seeya Donnie, the worst American traitor since Benedict Arnold.

[IggleDuer]

52. Why didn't he bring Barron to the game?

Isn’t that what good fathers do? Oh wait ....

[OAITW r.2.0]

53. That is the least of his transgressions, lol.

Probably 3482 on my list of lies/transgressions.

[CCExile]

55. Downright Romanian!

[IronLionZion]

58. Is this a reference to Nicolae Ceaușescu?

[CCExile]

90. Absolutely!

[Iahotdog]

56. He had a reception committee in Chicago today too.

Funny I'm not seeing much about it on MSNBC tonight.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

64. Turning point ? no

I think Trump thought it would be a hero's welcome with cheers and lots of applause . I think he thought of himself as being most brilliant as the producer ,director and star of the show. In the very early hours of Sunday morning ,Trump was most likely rubbing his hands together in glee believing his scam would put the impeachment momentum in the stops. At the very least he figured the showing would be good for his campaign effort for being cheered and receiving much applause from a regular crowd. Instead he was forced or forced himself to confront or be confronted with the cold truth. Illusions of grandeur out of the mouth of a guy that just makes stuff up. A liar. I suppose his audience wonders what he will do next as the show must go on, as they say in the entertainment business.

What a sad state of affairs.

[Baked Potato]

68. Deep down you know

He wanted to cry for his mommy. But, mommy wasn’t there.

[Skidmore]

73. We need more crowds like that

although I'll bet Trump limits himself to friendly venues from now on.

[Falcata]

74. No

[OnDoutside]

76. No. If was it in Louisiana, then yes.

[MaryMagdaline]

79. Every politician in the world gets booed

I’ve seen governors get booed at football games and they all laugh it off. Some will continue to waive and smile as a funny FU to the crowd. I’ve always respected politicians who could take the heat.

This guy is a big baby. Always was.

[LeftInTX]

83. Trump was possibly humilated for a second

On Monday, he was back to his old self bashing Chicago and Jussie Smollet in front of a large audience of law enforcement.

[Pacifist Patriot]

86. Only if we are talking about a maze or rabbit warren.

I've lost track of the number of corners I have felt we have turned.

[bucolic_frolic]

88. Not a turning point, just a measure of

upscale baseball fans in suburban D.C.

Federal workers are intelligentsia, they are more liberal. But it is a good sign.

[NNadir]

89. Shades of Nicolae Ceausceau