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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe can't both brag about being morally and ethically superior to Republicans but then complain when
we actually hold ourselves to a higher standard than the Republicans do.
malaise
(268,702 posts)No need to play the victim
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Some are going to feel that we should use the same seemingly effective techniques of our enemies, while others feel like we should take moral high ground by not using the same tactics. I prefer the high ground, but I don't know if it's actually more effective. For one thing, it's pretty easy to see that our political enemies will describe us as monsters whatever we do.
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mcar
(42,278 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Because when anything like Hill's scandal happens, the narrative that gets pushed is "it goes to show that both parties have scandals." Democrats have to push back hard and relentlessly against the false equivalency bullshit and establish a talking point along the lines of, "Unlike Republicans, Democrats actually have standards."
It requires persistent repetition to gain control of a narrative. That's the one thing Republicans do really, really well.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But it doesn't help the narrative when our first reaction is "Republicans do it all the time so why are WE being held accountable?!"
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Instead, the dominant narrative should be about how the Democratic Party is honorable and the GOP is ethically bankrupt.
This is an area in which the Democratic Party has room for improvement.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)Had we done so in Virginia...the GOP would have control of the state. You can't be so so so pure when the other side is not...take it on a case by case basis.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We've certainly seen the clips of Trump beaming at the podium when his supporters break into their chant. There are numerous instances. Do you have one instance of a Democratic president doing anything remotely similar?
Does the difference between the president leading a chant and a spontaneous chant at a sporting event really need to be spelled out? If so, please tell me ahead of time how many syllables is too many so nobody's brain is over-taxed.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)leftstreet
(36,101 posts)maxsolomon
(33,246 posts)But if it's about booing President Sociopath the 1st time he's stepped in front of a crowd that's not composed of hand-picked deplorable fools, then I disagree.
Jeering unpopular leaders has a history that goes back millenia.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)There's nothing moral or immoral or ethical or unethical about private citizens spontaneously booing a politician.
maxsolomon
(33,246 posts)Gotcha
Paladin
(28,243 posts)This goody-two-shoes act by Democrats---while republicans are pillaging this country and enjoying it---is so over with.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)And people like Karl Rove have used it to bludgeon the left into submission.
MineralMan
(146,255 posts)That's really an ancient insult that dates back to my days in the early 1960s. There's nothing "candy-ass" about being ethical and holding strong values.
It's not "candy-ass" to be working on impeaching a President, either.
If I remember correctly, "candy-ass" was a way of saying about someone that he wasn't a "real man," somehow. It was something the high school football player might say to a guy who played in the band. It's a marginal homophobic insult, really.
Here's one of the definitions of it from Urban Dictionary:
Candy Ass
a male who is meek and timid, shows female personality traits. basically a male who wouldn't survive outside the security of his mother's arms reach. Also look at pansy, sissy, fruit, wimp
Who do you consider to be a "candy-ass" Democrat, I wonder?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)If we either behave according to the standards set by Republicans or we're "candy-asses," we need to stop trying to claim any moral or ethical superiority over them.
Ethics are easy to uphold when it doesn't matter. And if, when it matters, we claim we don't need to uphold them because Republicans don't, we can forget claiming any ethical or moral superiority.
MineralMan
(146,255 posts)at all. If following good ethics is "candy-ass," then that should be taken as a compliment, it seems to me.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)We people will do what we do when facing a tyrant. This is America.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)All day every day!
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But don't expect anyone to take you seriously the next time you criticize a Republican for being an unethical, immoral hypocrite.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Ill be fine. 😊