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Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:14 PM

Giuliani butt-dials NBC reporter, heard discussing need for cash and trashing Bidens

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rudy-giuliani-butt-dials-nbc-reporter-heard-discussing-need-cash-n1071901

Oct. 25, 2019, 1:42 PM CDT / Updated Oct. 25, 2019, 2:02 PM CDT; By Rich Schapiro

Late in the evening on Oct. 16, Rudy Giuliani made a phone call to this reporter. The fact that Giuliani was reaching out wasn’t remarkable. He and the reporter had spoken earlier that night for a story about his ties to a fringe Iranian opposition group. But this call, it would soon become clear, wasn’t a typical case of a source following up with a reporter. The call came in at 11:07 p.m. and went to voicemail; the reporter was asleep.

The next morning, a message exactly three minutes long was sitting in his voicemail. In the recording, the words tumbling out of Giuliani’s mouth were not directed at the reporter. He was speaking to someone else, someone in the same room. The call appeared to be one of the most unfortunate of faux pas: what is known, in casual parlance, as a butt dial. And it wasn’t the first time it had happened.

“You know,” Giuliani says at the start of the recording. “Charles would have a hard time with a fraud case ‘cause he didn’t do any due diligence.”

It wasn’t clear who Charles is, or who may have been implicated in a fraud. In fact, much of the message’s first minute is difficult to comprehend, in part because the voice of the other man in the conversation is muffled and barely intelligible. But then Giuliani says something that’s crystal clear.

"Let's get back to business." He goes on.

"I gotta get you to get on Bahrain." Giuliani is well-connected in the Kingdom of Bahrain.

Last December, he visited the Persian Gulf nation and had a one-on-one meeting with King Hamad Bin Isa al-Khalifa in the royal palace. “King receives high-level U.S. delegation,” read the headline of the state-run Bahrain News Agency blurb about the visit.
Giuliani runs a security consulting company, but it’s not clear why he would have a meeting with Bahrain’s king. Was he acting in his capacity as a consultant? As Trump’s lawyer? Or as an international fixer running a shadow foreign policy for the president?

In May, Giuliani told the Daily Beast his firm had signed a deal with Bahrain to advise its police force on counter-terrorism measures. But the Bahrain News Agency account of the meeting suggested Giuliani was viewed more like an ambassador than a security consultant. “HM the King praised the longstanding Bahraini-U.S. relations, noting keenness of the two countries to constantly develop them,” it said.

The voicemail yielded no details about the meeting. But Giuliani can be heard telling the man that he’s “got to call Robert again tomorrow.”

“Is Robert around?” Giuliani asks.

“He’s in Turkey,” the man responds.

Giuliani replies instantly. “The problem is we need some money.”

The two men then go silent. Nine seconds pass. No word is spoken. Then Giuliani chimes in again.

“We need a few hundred thousand,” he says.

It’s unclear what the two men were talking about. But Giuliani is known to have worked closely with a Robert who has ties to Turkey.
His name is Robert Mangas, and he’s a lawyer at the firm Greenberg Traurig LLP, as well as a registered agent of the Turkish government. Giuliani himself was employed by Greenberg Traurig until about May 2018.

Mangas’s name appears in court documents related to the case of Reza Zarrab, a Turkish gold trader charged in the U.S. with laundering Iranian money in a scheme to evade American sanctions. Giuliani was brought on to assist Zarrab in 2017. He traveled to Turkey with his former law partner Michael Mukasey and attempted to strike a deal with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to secure the release of their jailed client, alarming the federal prosecutor leading the case. Giuliani and Mangas were both employed by Greenberg Traurig at the time. The firm and Mangas had registered with the Justice Department to lobby the U.S. government on behalf of Turkey, according to an affidavit from Mangas.

Mangas did not return a request for comment.

Giuliani’s conversation partner can be heard responding to the "few hundred thousand" comment. But it’s possible to make out only the beginning of his answer, and even that is somewhat garbled.

“I’d say even if Bahrain could get, I’m not sure how good [unintelligible words] with his people,” the man says.

“Yeah, okay,” Giuliani says.

“You want options? I got options,” the man says.

“Yeah give me options,” Giuliani replies.

The exchange took place at the 2:20 mark in the voicemail message. The other man does most of the talking in the remaining 40 seconds, and it’s difficult to piece together what he says.

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Reply Giuliani butt-dials NBC reporter, heard discussing need for cash and trashing Bidens (Original post)
fleur-de-lisa Oct 25 OP
fleur-de-lisa Oct 25 #1
gratuitous Oct 25 #2
fleur-de-lisa Oct 25 #4
flibbitygiblets Oct 25 #12
OMGWTF Oct 25 #19
TeamPooka Oct 25 #22
NCLefty Oct 25 #50
Salviati Oct 25 #51
ret5hd Oct 25 #3
AllaN01Bear Oct 25 #44
FM123 Oct 25 #5
DENVERPOPS Oct 25 #27
Native Oct 25 #6
nolabear Oct 25 #7
Leghorn21 Oct 25 #8
H2O Man Oct 25 #9
Kitchari Oct 25 #10
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #11
BumRushDaShow Oct 25 #13
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #17
renate Oct 25 #18
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #30
BumRushDaShow Oct 25 #21
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #33
BumRushDaShow Oct 25 #34
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #45
BumRushDaShow Oct 25 #47
not fooled Oct 25 #39
Rhiannon12866 Oct 25 #40
Skidmore Oct 25 #14
triron Oct 25 #15
DENVERPOPS Oct 25 #25
geralmar Oct 25 #16
jayschool2013 Oct 25 #24
geralmar Oct 25 #32
erronis Oct 25 #28
Hekate Oct 25 #41
OMGWTF Oct 25 #20
Major Nikon Oct 25 #23
erronis Oct 25 #31
ancianita Oct 25 #26
MFGsunny Oct 25 #55
intrepidity Oct 25 #29
kentuck Oct 25 #35
getagrip_already Oct 25 #36
Hekate Oct 25 #37
NBachers Oct 25 #38
yellowcanine Oct 25 #42
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Historic NY Oct 25 #46
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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:20 PM

1. In a separate butt-dial call:

Giuliani spends the entire three minutes railing against the Bidens. He can be heard recycling many of the unfounded allegations he has been making on cable news and in interviews with print reporters.

Among the claims: that then-Vice President Biden intervened to stop an investigation of a Ukrainian gas company because Hunter sat on the board, and that Hunter traded on his father’s position as vice president to earn $1.5 billion from Chinese investors.

“There’s plenty more to come out,” Giuliani says. “He did the same thing in China. And he tried to do it in Kazakhstan and in Russia.”

“It’s a sad situation,” he adds. “You know how they get? Biden has been been trading in on his public office since he was a senator.”

Shortly after, Giuliani turns to Hunter Biden. “When he became vice president, the kid decided to go around the world and say, ‘Hire me because I’m Joe Biden’s son.’ And most people wouldn’t hire him because he had a drug problem.”

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:20 PM

2. "So the big turning point in your screen play is one of the bad guys butt-dials a reporter?"

Get the fuck outta here! No audience is going to believe that! It's worse than when you tried to name your tabloid editor "Pecker."

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:21 PM

4. No wonder Rudy works 'for free' . . . who would pay him?

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:01 PM

12. So, he runs a security consulting company; repeatedly butt-dials reporters and blabs god-knows-what

Sounds good, where can I get some of this security!?

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:28 PM

19. My filmmaker friend and I were just discussing that no one would ever buy this script. Too crazy!

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:31 PM

22. hahahahahahahahahaha

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:17 PM

50. :D :D :D

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:24 PM

51. Yeah, it's clear that the writers for the prestige drama that we're all living in...

... have blown past the most recent book in the authors series and are totally winging it at this point.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:20 PM

3. And in the center ring...Inept Sidekick Man!!!

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:31 PM

44. this

&app=desktop

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:22 PM

5. What an idiot - no wonder he is the butt of so many jokes!

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Response to FM123 (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:45 PM

27. good thing

good thing it wasn't Trump's lard ass doing the Butt Call, the poor phone would be smashed to smithereens......

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:23 PM

6. I would imagine that we have the technology to decipher the entire conversation?

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Response to Native (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:28 PM

7. I'm willing to bet on it. But it has to be iron clad.

They’d challenge anything that’s not.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:36 PM

8. Greatest headline of my entire life??!

YES, I BELIEVE IT IS!!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:42 PM

9. Recommended.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:55 PM

10. He butt dialed not ONCE,

But TWICE

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:58 PM

11. Ali Velshi just had the reporter on his MSNBC show and played part of the call

I expect we'll be hearing much more about this. Trump isn't the only one who has gone over the edge...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:07 PM

13. I was gonna turn on the TV

but decided to wait. But as soon as I saw this I was like - where's the blaring headlines on this story????? Now you made me turn the TV on.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:18 PM

17. Nicolle Wallace is on now and she's always great and has a good panel too

I didn't much like her initially since she worked for W, but she's grown on me and hers is one show I usually watch. She said she gave up on the Republicans when Sarah Palin was nominated and she now speaks out as much as anyone, as does her panel, and she often has breaking news.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:25 PM

18. I record it every day now

I really like her show a LOT. I like that she gets right to the panel instead of doing a monologue (I do like Rachel's monologues), and I like her guests, and I like her. I like that they have a giggle sometimes about what morons the GOP are. Her show is lighter in spirit than a lot of others, which I actually like in these dark days.

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Response to renate (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:50 PM

30. Yes, hers is my favorite in the afternoons now.

And you're right, she goes straight to what's going on and she has appropriate guests there to discuss it. And she doesn't hold back on criticizing the Republicans in no uncertain terms now, LOL. In fact, she has said that she refrains from showing Trump footage on her show - which I appreciate!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:30 PM

21. If I am going to turn it on,

I usually wait until Ari @ 6 but with all the stuff that keeps coming out, I have turned it on a bit earlier with Schmuck, but rarely have it on this early with Nicolle.

(they all usually rotate the contributors and analysts across most of the shows anyway)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:55 PM

33. Ari is another favorite of mine

He's a lawyer and is good at explaining the issues we're facing - and he often has Maya Wiley, also very savvy and another favorite of mine. I don't usually catch him since I mostly leave the house by 6:30 - I wish that they'd repeat his show late nights rather than Brian Williams 3x!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:59 PM

34. I do like Maya

She is sharp as a tack!

And yeah, they seem to only repeat the "prime time" shows (Chris, Rachel, Lawrence, and Brian) - at least when I listen on SirusXM.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:38 PM

45. They used to show a second repeat of Rachel, which made sense

Since I believe it's their highest rated show. But they replaced it awhile back with yet another repeat of Brian Williams and, for me, once is enough - though he's been speaking out pretty forcefully recently too!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:49 PM

47. LOL

I'm not normally up when he finally comes on but sometimes I'll have my SiriusXM radio turned on MSNBC while in bed and may intermittently be lucid enough to hear him... But agree that once is enough!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:13 PM

39. Even Chuck Todd is showing signs of life lately

he appears to be getting so fed up with GOPee BS that he has reduced "both siderism" to the point that I can watch him sometimes for an entire show without turning off the teevee.

I like Nicole but she still has a blind spot for chimpy.

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Response to not fooled (Reply #39)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:20 PM

40. I agree, he's definitely improved, he pretty much lost it with that Republican senator recently

Which absolutely shows how bad it's gotten! :

And you're right, Nicolle still has a soft spot for her "old boss" as she calls him. Though I have to give her credit for seeing the light long before the "never Trumpers."

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:08 PM

14. What kind of world do these people inhabit

where you call someone and ask for a few hundred thousand dollars to make up stuff?

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:11 PM

15. The Twilight Zone.

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Response to triron (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:44 PM

25. Perfect description

That's exactly what I've been calling it......maybe it will catch on and we both will become famous icons.......

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Response to geralmar (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:34 PM

24. Releasing it to the public without corroborating what it means?

Or calling Rudy and asking wtf? Probably not.

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Response to geralmar (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:49 PM

28. So if Joe Bloe gets a VM from some idiot, can't he disseminate it?

I'm not sure that this is journalism ethics or more of privacy concerns.

Some states require both parties to agree to be recorded.

With VMs, the calling party is (tacitly?) giving approval for his/her voice to be recorded. And the recipient is approving by even having the VM feature. Guess this works for cams that are left broadcasting...

I doubt that there are any laws that state that a party that has legitimately obtained a recording can't redistribute it.

Well, except for that shitty DRM/etc. which can't apply here.

So broadcast away. I'm sure it's already on thousands of audio channels already.

Obligatory and nonsensical: IANAL or anything else.

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Response to geralmar (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:22 PM

41. #1 The journo did not ask for this #2 It's on his answering machine & not just notes ...

#3 Because of #1 it's not entrapment. #4 Note the delay between the recording and publication while the reporter lines up all his facts.

This is journalistic gold that has dropped into his lap, and yes, it is both legal and ethical to use it.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:29 PM

20. I can't wait for the SNL skit on this. The writers have never had it so easy.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:31 PM

23. Perhaps it's just a coincidence

But there just seems to be a trend with Trump’s crooked lawyers, influence peddling, and access to Trump by criminals.

Anyone else notice that?

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:50 PM

31. Doesn't this trendline start back in the 70's? Or before counting mean old daddy.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:45 PM

26. Looks like the Honorable Elijah Cummings has already gone to work in heaven.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:38 PM

55. My thoughts EXACTLY.

As his life bore witness ....... Elijah Cummings must also have said this time :: "SEND ME!"

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:49 PM

29. Sounds like disinfo

Feels too contrived.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:01 PM

35. "We need a few hundred thousand"

Does that mean they were looking for more than dirt on Joe Biden?

Like $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:02 PM

36. This really doesn't sound like a guy who....

is looking over his shoulder expecting an arrest and indictment.

It sounds like someone who knows he won't be touched, and is going full speed ahead doing the very same thing he should be in jail for a long time ago.

It's like he has a carte blanche from the king!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:04 PM

37. My gods: he's the court jester for the Mad King

Jingle jingle jingle

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:05 PM

38. I must be getting punch-drunk- The title of this post sent me into fits of tears-down-face laughter.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:26 PM

42. Holy Cow. This could be of interest to prosecutors. Giuliani destroys himself with a butt dial.

Fitting end to the week.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #42)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:29 PM

43. NOT the Onion!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:43 PM

46. Guliani talking out of his ass again.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:57 PM

48. Bwahahaha!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:15 PM

49. As a complete ass,

he can only butt-dial.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:26 PM

52. Giuliani has claimed to be a "security consultant," but he doesn't have a lock screen on his phone?

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:27 PM

53. Sounds like nothing to me.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:33 PM

54. Why is it that these clowns remind me more and more of the Keystone Kops?

One foul-up and/or bad decision after another.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:53 PM

56. #ButtHisVoicemails is trending on twitter

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 10:52 PM

57. Kick!

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