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flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:26 PM Sep 2012

MSNBC posts Greenspan v. Matthews showdown video

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/48886317/#48886426

Tweety is making news with this, curious that msnbc posted it.

from Politico:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/09/chris-matthews-crashes-msnbc-daytime-again-134219.html

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- One week after bringing the opinionated bluster of his primetime show to MSNBC's Morning Joe, Chris Matthews put Andrea Mitchell in an awkward spot when he pushed her to acknowledge that his opinions on Republican voter suppression efforts were factual statements.

"You know it's all true," Matthews said. "You don't have to say it, I am."

"No, it's -- not our opinions," Mitchell said.

"Those aren't opinions. It's factual," Matthews countered.

Over the weekend, New York Times television critic Alessandra Stanley addressed how MSNBC's increasingly ideoligical stance threatens NBC News personalities. The threat is greatest for Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell, both of whom are veteran NBC reporters who host their own shows on the liberal cable network.

MSNBC has said that it divides its news shows from its opinion shows (specifically at 3 p.m., which many critics have a hard time believing). But by bringing primetime guests into daytime, and vice versa, the line between veteran hard news personalities and celebrity pundits grows ever thinner.

Matthews is currently waging his own war on Republicans and the race issue, which may be good for MSNBC's ratings. But it's not great for Andrea Mitchell's reputation -- even when she does stipulate that Matthews' opinions do not reflect her own.
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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
1. "...MSNBC's increasingly ideoligical stance..." Yeah, its ideological to be biased toward facts.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012


Who knew facts had bias?

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
7. Her kiss up interview with Condi
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:39 PM
Sep 2012

was very telling. Well I guess someone has to make the repukes feel comfortable..

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. I think that Newsroom must be getting to Tweety.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:38 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe the fact that his son is involved in the show, and that Tweety watches it intently, means that he is absorbing the message of what REAL journalism entails.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
6. Kos on the story: UPDATE: Matthews to Mitchell: "It's not opinion, it's factual."
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:38 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/03/1127307/-Matthews-to-Mitchell-It-s-not-opinion-it-s-factual?detail=hide

I have serious problems with Chris Matthews' horserace philosophy, which Jon Stewart expertly sliced up to the point where Matthews just told a Daily Show writer last week to "Please get Jon Stewart to like me." Hilarious. But at the DNC in NC on hackmeister Andrea Greenspan's -- I mean, Mitchell's -- MSNBC show, Matthews just delivered the kind of talk the DNC better listen to (I can't find a link yet so hopefully one will show up shortly). He perfectly countered the "Are You Better Off" BS meme with the pithy brilliant takedown of the GOP:

"To leave this country in hell and now claim it isn't heaven."

But Andrea wasn't having any of it. She had Media Talking Points to deliver.

But Matthews would not let her -- in fact, he brilliantly challenged her "journalism" with one simple line after he listed a litany of the GOP's voter obstructionism and repeated lies and he asked her, "Isn't that right?"

Being the "journalist" she aspires to, she said nothing except, "That's an opinion."

Then Matthews delivered the coup de grace:

"It's not opinions, it's factual."

Andrea literally speechless. Matthews calling her hackery out. Epic Journalism Fail.

Nuff said.
 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
13. Couldn't package a primetime
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:03 PM
Sep 2012

ad any better than that to counter the "are you better off" stuff from the Romneyites.

If I was the DNC chair, I'd show that clip periodically during the convention knowing that the repubs can't resist peeking in every now and again. It completes cuts off their legs at the waist.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. I am impressed at how Matthews stuck to his point and so politely
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:53 PM
Sep 2012

at the same time. He can bet rather bombastic at times. I thought that he was much more effective this time.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
11. Try the top link in the Original post
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:01 PM
Sep 2012

you have to wade through a 10 second ad then Andrea starts talking, try minute 6-7

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
16. He opened the root nerve with that.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:12 PM
Sep 2012

The repub's number 1 strategy is to suppress Democratic voting.

If you were being square with the people, how could you justify trying to keep them from voting? The answer is you couldn't. You are trying to undermine democracy itself to gain dictatorial power over a majority you fear won't accept your draconian methods.

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