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Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:37 AM

If Democrats had not won the House in 2018...

...we may have already lost our democracy and our Constitution?

One thing has become clear over the last three years. The Republican Party is not capable or willing to defend our Constitution. They are surrender monkeys.

Where would our nation be today if we did not have the Democrats in charge of the House? How far would this lawless and reckless autocrat have gone?

A Party that is incapable of defending our Constitution has no legitimacy to exist. They are a threat to our nation's survival.

They have shown who they are and what they stand for.

The Republican Party is a disgrace.

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Reply If Democrats had not won the House in 2018... (Original post)
kentuck Oct 22 OP
blm Oct 22 #1
Moostache Oct 22 #2
Cosmocat Oct 22 #11
Karma13612 Oct 22 #13
BlueMTexpat Oct 23 #48
exboyfil Oct 22 #3
kentuck Oct 22 #5
Cosmocat Oct 22 #12
flibbitygiblets Oct 22 #21
moonscape Oct 22 #37
calimary Oct 23 #52
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 22 #4
nature-lover Oct 22 #42
Wounded Bear Oct 22 #6
Dr Rise Oct 22 #7
dalton99a Oct 22 #8
yuiyoshida Oct 22 #9
Karma13612 Oct 22 #16
yuiyoshida Oct 22 #18
flibbitygiblets Oct 22 #23
yuiyoshida Oct 22 #24
Aussie105 Oct 22 #36
SammyWinstonJack Oct 23 #47
FakeNoose Oct 22 #38
yuiyoshida Oct 22 #41
BlueMTexpat Oct 23 #49
Pepsidog Oct 22 #10
OMGWTF Oct 22 #14
xxqqqzme Oct 22 #15
Karma13612 Oct 22 #17
Texin Oct 22 #19
CaptainTruth Oct 22 #20
StarfishSaver Oct 22 #22
kentuck Oct 22 #30
bucolic_frolic Oct 22 #25
Auggie Oct 22 #26
ffr Oct 22 #27
malaise Oct 22 #28
Pluvious Oct 22 #29
MyMission Oct 23 #46
Pluvious Oct 23 #53
pwb Oct 22 #31
Cetacea Oct 22 #32
INdemo Oct 22 #33
warmfeet Oct 22 #34
Aussie105 Oct 22 #35
burrowowl Oct 22 #43
Kid Berwyn Oct 22 #39
Aussie105 Oct 22 #40
Cha Oct 22 #44
C Moon Oct 23 #45
Raven123 Oct 23 #50
no_hypocrisy Oct 23 #51

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:39 AM

1. No doubt about it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:40 AM

2. Agreed with a caveat...

The Republican VOTER is a disgrace. They should be ashamed of themselves and they should be embarrassed to ever speak publicly of their hideous beliefs...

Pompous, hypocritical, racist surrender monkeys indeed.

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Response to Moostache (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:25 AM

11. Mindless pods

They have devolved to the point where they excuse any and EVERY thing because "he is pissing the left off!" and they will vote for him because "it pisses the left off."

WTF the media and country at large continues to bend over backwards to indulge them is my major frustration.

40% of this country is just fucking lost. This country has to recognize, accept that and act accordingly.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:30 AM

13. Agree 1000%

And I love your sig!

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Response to Moostache (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 04:30 AM

48. Absolutely this!

But any Democrat who was eligible to and did NOT vote in 2016, or who voted for a third party candidate then, is also a disgrace.

Thank heavens that so many came out and voted for Dems in 2018!!! Those Dems redeemed themselves.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:40 AM

3. Also shows if you are going to have just one House of Congress

It needs to be the Senate. Unless you can convince four or five of the smaller states that their best interest lies in the Democratic party, our country is doomed.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:03 AM

5. But the Senate cannot impeach.

Only the House can begin the process of removal of a President, unless it is a 25th Amendment issue.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:25 AM

12. Judges ...

nm

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

21. +1

also impeachment is toothless without conviction, which can only be done in the Senate. Bill Clinton was impeached in the house, and still remained a very effective POTUS.

Also the house has passed a ton of bills that the senate simply ignores. We need the Senate, and we probably need a stronger leader than Schumer when that happens.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:32 PM

37. I'd change that 'probably' to

... definitely, positively, without question, etc etc etc ....

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:03 AM

52. Doesn't matter. It leaves a mark.

We need to leave a mark.

For the history books.

So his name will ALWAYS have that asterisk next to it. Nothing he can say or tweet or spin will get rid of that mark - although I strongly suspect that after heís impeached, assuming the Senate doesnít produce enough votes to convict, trump will try various sneaky-ass maneuvers and schemes to have his friends scrub the record or somehow retract or nullify an impeachment.

And if things REALLY get to hot, I still expect him to try to sneak out of town some dark night. And maybe go hide in the Crimea or some such Russian ďsafety zone.Ē

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:43 AM

4. the GOP is the greatest threat to the United States

See 1st link in sig.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:40 PM

42. Agreed. The second greatest is fox news.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:05 AM

6. K & R...for truth...

Kind of prescient of the Founders knowing that we need to do that more often than the other offices in gov't.

The people's house to our defense.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:06 AM

7. I was thinking the exact same thing last night!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:06 AM

8. The GOP is the world's largest white supremacist criminal enterprise

masquerading as a political party


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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:09 AM

9. THIS SAYS IT ALL...

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:38 AM

16. I saw this the other day.

Incredibly sad.

Iím not good with history, dates and ages, but I am guessing their fathers or grandfathers fought and possibly died in a war against communism.

How have we become so illiterate, devolved and corroded that we think Russia is OK?

WTF indeed.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:43 AM

18. These people are true

traitors, not patriots...I'd say f**k them..they should be made to sit in a classroom and read out loud what Stalin did...and hey. maybe what Putin has been up to for the last several years. This is ignorance at its highest peak.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:11 AM

23. Like any one of these jagoffs know how to speak Russian. They can't even speak English.

Look at them all, proud of their ignorance and stupidity. I guess I shouldn't be happy about this, but judging by their appearance, none of them have eaten a vegetable in some time. So they probably won't be around much longer.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:14 AM

24. Not sure about eating their veggies but

THE STUPID IS STRONG WITH these two!!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:31 PM

36. Nothing to see here.

Just angry, old white men trying desperately to be relevant.
Except their crumbling brain cells have called it wrong.

Rule of thumb:
Anyone over the age of 55 expressing their opinion? Ignore it, ignore them, call them out for what they are if you must . . . . DOTARDS!

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:18 AM

47. Anyone?🤔

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:35 PM

38. To that we answer ...



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:21 PM

41. Oh Bravo...

Well played!

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #38)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 04:31 AM

49. I love this!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:16 AM

10. Surrender monkeys, I love it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:34 AM

14. When People Show You Who They Are Believe Them, the First Time. -- Maya Angelou

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:36 AM

15. And we knew it.

At least here in Orange County, I have never seen Democrats work so hard or been so motivated. dana rohrabacher was elected to Congress when I moved here. I had despaired of him ever being defeated. But we got rid of him in 2018. Every congressional rethuglican was replaced by a Democrat. It was grassroots' success too. New life is being enjoyed by the DPOC. Last year, our Dem club reserved one table for the annual Truman Dinner. This year it was 3 1/2 tables!

I mean this feels GOOD!

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:39 AM

17. Excellent! 👏👍❤️ N/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:49 AM

19. The retrumplicans are not merely "surrender monkeys".

They are violators of the Constitution and the rule of law. They gleefully abuse their power to line their pockets and those of their children and rich friends. As long as they can scrape a dollar from every natural resource that provides monetary reward or bilk the taxpayers for whatever boondoggle they can conceive, they'll enable this (indeed any) festering spawn of hell for as long they believe it's politically safe. They are all corrupt. It's just matter of degree between them.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:59 AM

20. I don't believe we would have lost our Constitution. It would still be there.


Granted, Trump & the GOP would be completely ignoring every bit of it with the exception of the 2nd Amendment, but it would still be there.

And when Democrats take control again we will take our government back to being one that respects, honors, & obeys that Constitution.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

22. I shudder to think where we'd be if we hadn't taken back the House

I preferred winning the Senate because of judges. But I'm thrilled and relieved we took the House. Especially THIS House.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:40 AM

30. It really is a scary thought...

Trump would be worse than what he is right now, if that is conceivable.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

25. Don't preach to the choir, figure out how to convince the deplorables

I don't want to divide the country, but Democrats need to support businesses that support democracy instead of pseudo-fascist enterprises

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:33 AM

26. The GOP and their corporate enablers primary goal: fill the courts w/ corporate-friendly judges

You can call it not defending the constitution if you want, but its really a coup to take over 1/3 of the government. Corrupt Presidents come and go. Majorities in the House and Senate change all the time. Federal judges are forever.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:49 AM

27. The Republican Party is a ethically bankrupt.

Lead by their 24/7 mouthpiece, Fox Entertainment.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:53 AM

28. There were some folks here who thought we were overdoing the

celebrations.

Elections have consequences - Go Dems! Keep Walking Speaker Nancy P.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:39 AM

29. We must always be mindful of Fox Network's role too

We have a number of problems in our Country, the root cause of many of them are due to this vile product of their brainwashing success.

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Response to Pluvious (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

46. Fox has huge role, but many people and groups fund and pull the strings

Found an article I read 8 years ago titled "The-enemies-within-the-20-most-dangerous-conservatives-and-their-organizations". Interesting, it's from a Christian left blog! I posted the link below.

In 2011 they listed 20, and mention Roger Ailes (he's dead) and fox first, Rupert Murdoch and his assorted news organizations ninth, the Koch brothers (one's dead) second, Dick Armey and the tea party third. Pat Robertson is sixth. Edwin Feulner, Jr. of heritage foundation is seventh.

I didn't see the Mercer's on this list, or Rush limbug, or Franklin Graham (Billy was still alive when this list was made), or Cambridge analytica founded in 2013, or the Federalist society which is funded by some of these folks. They all exert influence on conservative politicians and gullible voters.

This is the closing paragraph:
"And there you have it. All of these people and their organizations pose a serious threat to the American people. They target women, senior citizens, minorities, homosexuals, non-Christians, and American workers. So which person or organization is the most dangerous to democracy? The common thread throughout the list is the Koch brothers. They have ties to many of the people and organizations on the list and share many of the same goals. If one were to remove the Koch brothers from the equation an important source of funding and leadership would be eliminated from the conservative sphere. The Koch brothers are by far the biggest threat to American values and institutions. The truly evil thing about this group is that NONE of them are elected by the people. Yet they have more power and influence over our elected officials and system of law and government, than we do."

http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-enemies-within-the-20-most-dangerous-conservatives-and-their-organizations

We must be mindful of these people and groups as well. They represent an axis of evil with far reaching tentacles, that we are trying to repel and defeat.

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Response to MyMission (Reply #46)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:42 AM

53. Wow, that's just insane

Can pursuit of more and more wealth and power be all that drive them ?

So many sick fuks out there.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:57 AM

31. yup.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:52 PM

32. K&R

Blue wave just may have saved democracy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 06:17 PM

33. Exactly..Trump has already stated that parts of our Constitution were phoney.

Here is what I expected if the Democrats had lost the House:
The Republicans would have said that our form of Government is outdated and we need to overhaul our system
Its like we have two systems of Government. The Fascist Government of the White House and Senate and the Democratic Democracy of the House of Representatives.

But the Republicans still have the Right Wing Media

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:12 PM

34. At best, they are surrender monkeys.

At worst, they are entirely complicit in the crimes that have been committed.

I am currently leaning towards the latter, at least regarding their leadership. The rank and file thoroughly enjoy being dotards.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:24 PM

35. The Republican Party is a disgrace.

BUT I think it goes much deeper than that.

It's obvious to some Trump has been subverting or rorting the system. As have other, previous presidents, but Trump is in a league of his own. A Mafia Don would be proud of him, getting away with it for three years - or his whole life, depending on your view.

But it begs the bigger question:
Can we put this entirely on one political party? (Granted the ratbags in politics seem to naturally gravitate to the biggest feeding troughs, like a herd of feral, hungry swine.)

Are there no people with serious power in either camp that can get some real time consideration of bad behaviour from leaders, and tap them on their shoulders, and say, George T style, 'Oh My! You should NOT be thinking of doing that!'

As is, the reaction to Don's casual attitude is years too late. The damage has been done.

For one, get rid of the 'Executive Orders' power thing, it seems to over-ride normal processes and makes a mockery of them. Same for 'presidential pardons'.
A President is a public servant, not a King, after all. He should NOT have the power of deciding who lives or dies, or get away with criminal behaviour.
In short, curtail the power of the POTUS position, and increase oversight within the party in power.

And for crying out loud, lock down the validity of the next election! Paper ballots only!

And a full media black out of political info one week before the next election. TV, Radio, Social Media. A blanket ban.
To give those with aching brain cells some time to clear their heads.

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:31 PM

43. Since Raygun it has been showing

Itís true colors and itís imperialism has been going on a long long time, hopefully our nation will learn from this and become the America we had believed it was.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:36 PM

39. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

Nice ring to it.

Barr quashed the investigation of all that Taylor today revealed.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #39)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:53 PM

40. Except . . .

If you don't change the system that created the problem, you are bound to repeat it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:36 PM

44. Thank Goodness we Did.. Thanks to mostly

moderate Dems campaigning on Health Care.. at Nancy Pelosi's advice.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

45. Most of the GOP (NRA) is Putin paid for.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:26 AM

50. Good to remember in Nov 2020

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:30 AM

51. Republicans are Quislings.

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