Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:38 PM
sheshe2 (69,877 posts)
She didn't lose.![]() http://all-hat-no-cattle.blogspot.com/2019/10/jake-tapper-to-buttigieg-shouldnt-dems.html ………………………. It has not been easy to be her. However everything she has done has been with grace and style. She has a calm demeaner under fire with her haters. She soars and the Icarus GOP fall from the sky while flying to close to the sun. Their sun is Donnie, it is waning. One of the first pics I posted when I joined DU. Obama and Clinton honoring the dead. Benghazi. ![]()
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Author | Time | Post |
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sheshe2 | Oct 2019 | OP |
doc03 | Oct 2019 | #1 | |
groundloop | Oct 2019 | #6 | |
triron | Oct 2019 | #7 | |
iluvtennis | Oct 2019 | #2 | |
sheshe2 | Oct 2019 | #3 | |
JoeOtterbein | Oct 2019 | #4 | |
triron | Oct 2019 | #5 | |
Ilsa | Oct 2019 | #8 | |
DesertRat | Oct 2019 | #9 | |
thenelm1 | Oct 2019 | #10 | |
Joe941 | Oct 2019 | #11 |
Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:47 PM
doc03 (26,870 posts)
1. We got to get rid of the damn EC. The idea was
they would be able to deny a person the presidency
In the event the people elected a nut job that sure didn't work. I think I read that only Republicans have benefited from the EC. |
Response to doc03 (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:27 PM
groundloop (9,549 posts)
6. Studies have show that the Electoral College gives repubs an automatic 0.5 to 1 % advantage
A vote in a rural state (predominantly right wing), thanks to the Electoral College, is worth more than a vote in a more populated state. Look at the two people in recent history who have occupied the White House after losing the popular vote.
![]() (So much for the theory that the Electoral College will keep out someone who's unfit). THAT NEEDS TO END!!!!! |
Response to groundloop (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:34 PM
triron (18,664 posts)
7. Intuitively I would guess significantly more.
Can you cite any studies?
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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:10 PM
iluvtennis (14,678 posts)
2. Agree the EC needs to be abolished. Think about it - the presidency is the only office elected by
the EC. Why is that? Inquiring minds want to know.
One person, one vote should be the way all elected offices are filled. |
Response to iluvtennis (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:13 PM
sheshe2 (69,877 posts)
3. Ding ding ding!
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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:15 PM
JoeOtterbein (5,513 posts)
4. A great reminder that the US did not elect Trump (also Bush) the...
...Electoral College did.
Blame them! |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:25 PM
triron (18,664 posts)
5. Actually Putin had more to do with it.
Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:35 PM
Ilsa (57,330 posts)
8. She is one of the strongest women out there. A role model. nt
Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:09 PM
thenelm1 (299 posts)
10. Two things to consider
1.) Something that never seems to get mentioned enough - Hillary was the victim of a 25+ year smear by the Republicans which, in the end, should be considered to have been highly successful. They were able to ding her enough to sway an election. That there was a lack of pushback and not taking the smear seriously from our side should never have happened.
2.) The EC. Getting that rescinded/removed from the Constitution will be a very high hurdle to cross. However, there is nothing in the Constitution that limits the number of reps in the House. What does limit it to 435 members is the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 which pegs the membership at 435 members. That should be a lower bar to cross. Given the population growth and shifts in the last 90 years, rescinding, amending or modifying that act to better reflect population dispersion/demographics should be a more attainable goal. If the seats in the House was more reflective of the actual population, the smaller population states would lose a lot of their power. Then again, without changing the Constitution, the Senate could still be a problem for obvious reasons, but it would be a start. |
Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:12 PM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
11. Agreed. But until that happens please do some campaigning in Wisconsin.