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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,248 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 03:24 PM Oct 2019

Lots of folks are trying to get their hands on Trump's tax returns. Here's how I did it.

Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

Lots of folks are trying to get their hands on Trump’s tax returns.

His personal returns are still secret, but I found a work-around to his businesses’ tax filings that revealed those financials didn’t always match what he told a lender.

Here’s how I did it.



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On the city’s website, I discovered a way to obtain the buildings’ property tax filings:

Tax returns are private -- but when you appeal the city’s property valuation, you have to file a public form with financial info on it.

…..Guess who’s a serial tax appealer?


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Lots of folks are trying to get their hands on Trump's tax returns. Here's how I did it. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 OP
Pro Publica reporter klook Oct 2019 #1
Well done Ms. Vogell! smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #2
+ 1 iluvtennis Oct 2019 #8
Oh, snap! Great work. MineralMan Oct 2019 #3
Sometimes you just have to ask yourself: what is public information? and go for it. Hekate Oct 2019 #4
Amazing how long it has taken Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #5
Heather's story, and thread, should be required reading for young reporters. A superb example.... mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #6
I don't think appealing assessments on your property is wrong. Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #7
Stable genius has a lot of real estate IronLionZion Oct 2019 #9
Certainly in Virginia. He bought the old Kluge place outside Charlottesville. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #10
Nice going. Good work. TryLogic Oct 2019 #11
Now that this has been exposed the Idiot will have his lawyers send threatening letters onetexan Oct 2019 #12
Thread Reader App version here, all together. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2019 #13
thanks for the link Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #16
Excellent reporting and awesome analysis! FakeNoose Oct 2019 #14
ProPublica also has a YouTube video on this. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2019 #15
This from the guy mgardener Oct 2019 #17
Why, that scamp! He even cheats on taxes and lies to lenders! PatrickforO Oct 2019 #18
My guess it that SDNY has this also. patphil Oct 2019 #19
No he would not be the first...but he can join the rest in prison!!! Lock Him UP!!!(n/t) Moostache Oct 2019 #20
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. Well done Ms. Vogell!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 03:32 PM
Oct 2019

I think this MF bastard underestimates the determination of those who wish to bring him down. I don't believe they will stop until the mission has been accomplished.

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
3. Oh, snap! Great work.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 03:34 PM
Oct 2019

Property data is often public, it seems. For example, I couldn't find my 2018 Property Tax bill, which I needed to apply for my Homestead property tax refund in Minnesota. What do do?

Well, I just went to the property tax website for my county and input the address of my house. Up popped a list of documents I could look at, including the one I needed. So, I clicked and printed and was done. At no time did I have to enter my name or any identification at all. My property tax bill was just one of the documents listed there, and showed recent payments made on those taxes.

There was information on my mortgage there, too, if I wanted that.

The point is that the website didn't care who was looking for that information. It's public information. I used it once to find the address of the owner of a rental property near mine where nobody was taking care of keeping the weeds from growing in the back yard. I sent a nice letter to the owner that mentioned vermin and health risks. Someone showed up a couple of days later and cut down the weeds.

Property information is public information.

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
4. Sometimes you just have to ask yourself: what is public information? and go for it.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 03:51 PM
Oct 2019

Heather Vogell, you rock

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Amazing how long it has taken
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:02 PM
Oct 2019

for someone to figure this out. A half way decent investigative reporter could have done the same.

Hey,there it is,now run with it.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,248 posts)
6. Heather's story, and thread, should be required reading for young reporters. A superb example....
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019
David Fahrenthold Retweeted

Heather's story, and thread, should be required reading for young reporters. A superb example of dogged and focused reporting that not only addresses big, perplexing Qs surrounding Trump's $$$, but provides answers by evaluating them systematically & exploring causal links.


Farmer-Rick

(10,126 posts)
7. I don't think appealing assessments on your property is wrong.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:31 PM
Oct 2019

I just have to wonder why Trump got away with such obvious under valuation.

I appeal my farm's assement regularly too. I don't think the tax assessor should value my property for more than I can sell it for. But, when it's down to a realistic number, my appeal is denied. Why weren't Trump's assessments realistic and obvious under valuation appeals denied?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
9. Stable genius has a lot of real estate
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:58 PM
Oct 2019

and there must be a lot of property tax documents publicly available.

Well done Ms. Vogell

This MFer is going down sooner or later, for something or another.

onetexan

(13,018 posts)
12. Now that this has been exposed the Idiot will have his lawyers send threatening letters
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:14 PM
Oct 2019

Demanding his public records be locked down and removed from public access claiming executive privilege, damn the FOIA laws.

FakeNoose

(32,532 posts)
14. Excellent reporting and awesome analysis!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:22 PM
Oct 2019

Well done Heather Vogell and ProPublica!
New York State will put Chump in jail even if the federal government doesn't.

mgardener

(1,810 posts)
17. This from the guy
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

Who says he loves police and first responders
Yet does not love them enough to pay his fair share of taxes so they can be paid
Impeach Trump!

PatrickforO

(14,556 posts)
18. Why, that scamp! He even cheats on taxes and lies to lenders!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:37 PM
Oct 2019

And here he is our president.

Gosh, what could go wrong?

patphil

(6,136 posts)
19. My guess it that SDNY has this also.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:48 PM
Oct 2019

Trump wouldn't be the first real estate player to fudge his numbers for loans and taxes.

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