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Adam Schiff....'Things just went from very, very bad, to much worse'


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Reply Adam Schiff....'Things just went from very, very bad, to much worse' (Original post)
pbmus Oct 17 OP
Thomas Hurt Oct 17 #1
TheRealNorth Oct 17 #8
lagomorph777 Oct 17 #10
lastlib Oct 17 #11
dameatball Oct 17 #46
TheRealNorth Oct 17 #16
AdamGG Oct 17 #60
lagomorph777 Oct 18 #68
stopdiggin Oct 18 #73
lagomorph777 Oct 18 #74
stopdiggin Oct 18 #75
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 17 #26
BluNoMatterHu Oct 18 #70
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 18 #71
malaise Oct 17 #27
bdamomma Oct 17 #31
leftstreet Oct 17 #32
uponit7771 Oct 17 #43
Zaphod42 Oct 17 #49
uponit7771 Oct 17 #50
Zaphod42 Oct 17 #59
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 18 #65
Kablooie Oct 18 #66
lagomorph777 Oct 18 #69
Cognitive_Resonance Oct 17 #2
bigbrother05 Oct 17 #3
maxsolomon Oct 17 #4
SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 17 #6
helpisontheway Oct 17 #5
Nasruddin Oct 17 #12
pbmus Oct 17 #19
Haggis for Breakfast Oct 17 #58
Initech Oct 17 #7
unblock Oct 17 #13
First Speaker Oct 17 #9
LuckyLib Oct 17 #35
Blanks92 Oct 17 #53
JTOL Oct 17 #14
pbmus Oct 17 #15
crickets Oct 17 #20
Duppers Oct 17 #40
uponit7771 Oct 17 #61
WyattKansas Oct 17 #17
pbmus Oct 17 #18
WyattKansas Oct 17 #28
MontanaMama Oct 17 #21
pbmus Oct 17 #22
MontanaMama Oct 17 #23
triron Oct 17 #30
malaise Oct 17 #24
pbmus Oct 17 #25
malaise Oct 17 #29
DFW Oct 17 #42
malaise Oct 17 #54
Evolve Dammit Oct 17 #33
pbmus Oct 17 #34
SpankMe Oct 17 #36
klook Oct 17 #56
OMGWTF Oct 17 #37
thenelm1 Oct 17 #39
BigmanPigman Oct 17 #38
Duppers Oct 17 #45
BigmanPigman Oct 17 #47
LiberalFighter Oct 17 #41
lindysalsagal Oct 17 #44
napi21 Oct 17 #48
LiberalLovinLug Oct 17 #51
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 17 #52
BootinUp Oct 17 #55
AdamGG Oct 17 #62
Maraya1969 Oct 17 #57
Liberty Belle Oct 18 #63
pbmus Oct 18 #64
xxqqqzme Oct 18 #67
calimary Oct 18 #72

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:01 PM

1. To law abiding and reasonable folks this is true...

to the christofascist base and the moral cowards in the Senate.......meh.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:29 PM

8. What we need to understand....

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)

What we need to understand is that Trump's base supports him using government institutions to go after Democrats, like a fascist police state would.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:42 PM

10. We need to stop giving a shit what that small minority thinks.

They can go to hell.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:44 PM

11. I REEEALLLY WISH they would!!

Until they do, they are in the way. McTurdle first and foremost.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:55 PM

46. Yep. Pretty much. It's not like they will be having an epiphany if that's the right word.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:57 PM

16. They're not a small minority

I think it's at least 20% population (And at least half of the Republicans).

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 10:58 PM

60. More like 35%, I think

If it was only 20%, it would be easier to get Senate votes for impeachment/removal.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:09 AM

68. 35%, but that IS a small minority in electoral terms.

And we (Dems) need to quit pretending we could ever get a single vote from one of Trump's Despicables. No point in fantasies that we could placate them. Get our side to the polls and get the effing job done.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #68)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 01:47 PM

73. but not in public perception

and that's why the solid Trump base is still a problem.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #73)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:09 PM

74. Public perception is distorted by the media magnifying glass.

Constant focus on a small group of idiots gives them an undeserved importance.

I say we use that glass to burn them like ants under the sun.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #74)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:13 PM

75. preparing a response. but the last line .. wins! (nt)

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:19 PM

26. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winna!!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:21 AM

70. Dream ticket

Could you imagine?! I wonder what the chances are....

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Response to BluNoMatterHu (Reply #70)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:08 AM

71. They're the dream ticket alright... it guarantees a win in both the primary and the general election


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:22 PM

27. THIS

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:34 PM

31. They are using the

base as a excuse. The filthy repigs got big money.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:40 PM

32. +1

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:27 PM

43. +1, especially when they're advocating breaking the law

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #43)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:10 PM

49. The gopers are not adverse to breaking the law...

 

If it keeps them in the majority. In the Senate, especially. Even without controlling the WH, they will have the Senate, and the Judiciary. As long as they can maintain a veto proof majority, they are golden. Breaking the law is the only way that they can stay in power, and their base "approves this message." They will skirt, and skate, and obfuscate. In the end, they are not really breaking the law...just doing what's best for the American People....Believe me, I see it all the time down here. The ends justify the means for the base. After all, "them damn libruls" been breaking the law for years...

Just an additional thought: Doesn't "Al-Qaeda" translate to English as "The Base"? Hmmm....

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Response to Zaphod42 (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:13 PM

50. +1, The KGOP was infested before Trump with voter suppression. None of them believe in a liberal

... democracy like Putin.

They don't believe in one person, one vote and each vote is equal and that's the basis of them breaking the law; those people aren't equal ...

I now live in a part of a city where Trumpets literally say this crap out loud

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #50)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 09:40 PM

59. You said more in that reply than you know...

 

Two words: "those people". Down here, it's just "them people"...usually just "them". Racism down here has become much more subtle these past few years. "Them"now not only includes blacks...immigrants, and gays...it's anybody who defends or advocates for "them". A "librul" is right down there with a "n@**#r" down here....

Dark days are ahead, my friends....

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Response to Zaphod42 (Reply #59)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 12:56 AM

65. Here in Ohio, Democrat is apparently a code word for African Americans to some people.

A former neighbor told me about a free music concert that he attended downtown, but he left early because "there were too many Democrats there".

I asked him how he knew they were Democrats. Were many of them wearing political shirts or something?

He looked at me like I was stupid, and then said "black people".

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 01:57 AM

66. At times like this I wish there was a hell for them to go to

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #66)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:12 AM

69. There is a hell (and we are all in it, at the moment).

I'm an atheist; my ideas of heaven, hell, and afterlife are concrete and based on social realities right here on Earth.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:05 PM

2. It's an administration of criminal scum, and the GOP is standing behind them. nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:09 PM

3. Mulvany equated immigration policy to foreign oppo on a political rival

"Quid pro quo" relies a lot on "cui bono".

Is it for the good of many or only for one?

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:16 PM

4. they're asserting that is a legitimate use of diplomatic pressure.

"investigate corruption" is what Obama's State Dept wanted too, right?

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:23 PM

6. Remember the reporter's question: "Mr. President, who if anyone did you ask Ukraine to investigate

...for corruption who was NOT a political rival of yours?"

THAT one shut him up for a second.

"We'll get back to you on that."

Then fled to his helicopter.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:20 PM

5. Maybe this is why they are not allowed to give regular press briefings

They might slip up and reveal some of their criminal activities.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:50 PM

12. At this point

They don't have anything but criminal activities to talk about

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Response to Nasruddin (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:08 PM

19. Bingo

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 08:58 PM

58. It's been SEVEN MONTHS since the last WH press briefing.

Let that sink in for a second.

S E V E N M O N T H S.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:24 PM

7. Holy shit, this is Mccarthyism 2.0.

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:52 PM

13. more like mccarthyism**2.0

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:40 PM

9. They must know that something bad is about to come out...

...why would he openly admit it otherwise...?

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:55 PM

35. If he's taking his oath to heart, he doesn't want to end up on the Dump ash heap.

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:25 PM

53. Perhaps

This is another calculated set-up to keep this fiasco on the front page? A smokescreen of sorts..for what purpose?

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:54 PM

14. Much worse means

Conspiracy to defraud the United States of a free and fair election in 2020 by the POTUS. The QPQ was the only item missing from the Mueller Report.

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Response to JTOL (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:55 PM

15. Bingo

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Response to pbmus (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:09 PM

20. *dingdingding* Winner!

Welcome to DU!

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Response to JTOL (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:24 PM

40. Rethugians do not care.

They care only about their racism, religion, and guns. Nothing else matters to them.

This negates rule of law and our Constitution, does it not?

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Response to JTOL (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:00 PM

61. +1

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:02 PM

17. Didn't the Justice Department (part that Barr can't get to) just open up a...

National Intelligence threat investigation into something that was still an ongoing threat to national security?

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:04 PM

18. You mean them trying to get the name of the whistleblower or

Just the scapegoat smokescreen...

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Response to pbmus (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:23 PM

28. No, it had to do with what was going on in Ukraine and it was still happening.

It is linked to the NY Office working with National Intelligence.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:11 PM

21. HRC is all

?s=1400

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:12 PM

22. That's a 'TOLD YA SO' look

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Response to pbmus (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:15 PM

23. That's exactly what it is.

And she sure did.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:25 PM

30. Well I tried to tell y'all.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:16 PM

24. Too good

Down they go

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Response to malaise (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:17 PM

25. The cards are...

v

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:24 PM

29. Schiff et al need to keep on repeating this question - why do Con and ReTHUGs want to

know the name of the whistle blower? What are they afraid of?

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Response to malaise (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:25 PM

42. I think I know what they are afraid of

They are afraid they won't be able to kill him/her or kidnap their family before testimony begins if they don't know whom they're looking for.

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Response to DFW (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:57 PM

54. We do too but make those who don't pay as much attention as we do

think about it as well

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:45 PM

33. But her emails?? And the DNC server?? The "corruption"... We are seeing corruption Nixon only

dreamed of. And the air waves/ cyber waves are populated by enablers, right wing enthusiasts, trolls, Neo-Nazis, conspiracy nut jobs and other foreign and domestic bots as well. This magnifies the strong messaging thanks to the loss of the Fairness Doctrine and the enactment of Citizens United which has created an enormous injection of cash that subsidizes all of the above.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:47 PM

34. Yes, we have a lot of work to right the ship...

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:59 PM

36. Republicans are already starting the misinformation campaign on this

Rand Paul is saying that conditions are placed on most foreign aid in order to motivate the receiving countries to promote U.S. or peaceful/humanitarian interests in exchange for the aid - including assurances that the aid money won't disappear in a black hole of corruption.

This is true, but that's not what's happening here.

What's happening here is that POTUS was threatening to withhold aid money unless Ukraine directed resources toward sullying the reputation of his political opponent.

Problem is, that sullying operation could also be described as an investigation into internal Ukranian corruption.

So, they're pushing hard on this alternate justification to distract from the actual reason. They'll be on Fox News relentlessly pounding the "pay-no-attention-to-that-man-behind-the-curtain" with respect to the quid pro quo.

They're killing America.

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 08:26 PM

56. 1. "We didn't do it."

2. “Everybody does it.”
3. “If we did it, it wouldn’t be a crime.”
4. “We did it.”
5. “Clinton / Obama/ Biden did other stuff that was worse.”

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:17 PM

37. Mick Mulvaney looks like the Nazi in "Raiders of the Lost Arc"

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:24 PM

39. Somebody needs to check the palms of his hands for burn scars. n/t

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:17 PM

38. Schiff is on MSNBC and is saying that when he heard

Mulvaney along with his GOP colleagues they just stood there shaking their heads in disbelief. He said it was like, "Good luck cleaning up after THIS now".

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:42 PM

45. 👍 But BP, wasn't that Rep. Eric Swalwell?

Easy to confuse since they're both great men.

Both could have said this and I just didn't see Schiff saying it too?

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Response to Duppers (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:02 PM

47. You're right.

As the saying goes, "Right church, wrong pew".

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:24 PM

41. It is amazing how the Republicans are so stupid.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:28 PM

44. I really hope the kgop senate wives are packing up the kids and going to Mom's house

out of disgust for their gangster husbands. Now, murderers.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:05 PM

48. So when is DT going to boot HIM out? nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:15 PM

51. "Democrats" ....plural

No doubt this goes beyond just Biden and his son. I'm sure they were willing to take any and all dirt on any and all Democrats.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:17 PM

52. Mulvaney has to be the stupidest MFer in the Trump administration

And there are really some stupid ones.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #52)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 08:13 PM

55. you have a keen ability to rank idiots, lol. Nt

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #52)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:36 PM

62. You know it's bad when Ben Carson talking about oreos doesn't even crack the top 10

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 08:45 PM

57. I think someone needs to be perp walked. For them

To just openly admit that they broke laws because they know the Senate won't do anything is very is very scary.

It will continue until people see that there are consequences to they're actions

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 12:32 AM

63. Also remember it takes 2/3 of the Senators PRESENT to remove him, not 2/3 of all of them.

If enough just don't show up for the vote, that's enough to get Trump removed.

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Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #63)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 12:35 AM

64. Interesting, Verrrry interesting...

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:01 AM

67. Oh, no! Hey Mick

I think there is a bus coming and you might be in the way.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:38 AM

72. "...that's why we held up the money."

MAN, when I heard him say that, my jaw dropped all the way to my collarbone.

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