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Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:38 AM

Chris Hayes went WAY out on a limb last night (re: Weinstein / Farrow / NBC News)



Yashar Ali 🐘 ✔ @yashar

Please watch this excellent closing statement by @chrislhayes

To stand up this way against his bosses at NBC News is remarkable

I should note what makes this even more remarkable is Andy Lack (NBC News Chairman) isn't a big fan of Chris/his show

Chris is stepping out here


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10:08 PM - Oct 14, 2019




If his show suddenly disappears, we'll know why...

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Reply Chris Hayes went WAY out on a limb last night (re: Weinstein / Farrow / NBC News) (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
hlthe2b Oct 2019 #1
Ztolkins Oct 2019 #25
hlthe2b Oct 2019 #26
gratuitous Oct 2019 #2
malaise Oct 2019 #3
Raster Oct 2019 #43
Prosper Oct 2019 #4
Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2019 #5
rainin Oct 2019 #6
FakeNoose Oct 2019 #7
bdamomma Oct 2019 #14
Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #37
Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #8
Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #18
harumph Oct 2019 #9
NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #10
Lulu KC Oct 2019 #12
NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #17
Mc Mike Oct 2019 #11
calimary Oct 2019 #13
ancianita Oct 2019 #20
hibbing Oct 2019 #15
patphil Oct 2019 #16
ancianita Oct 2019 #19
triron Oct 2019 #21
Piasladic Oct 2019 #22
WheelWalker Oct 2019 #23
2naSalit Oct 2019 #24
Frustratedlady Oct 2019 #27
MagickMuffin Oct 2019 #31
Frustratedlady Oct 2019 #32
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #40
colsohlibgal Oct 2019 #28
bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #29
Wawannabe Oct 2019 #30
klook Oct 2019 #33
Mersky Oct 2019 #34
Karadeniz Oct 2019 #35
Jarqui Oct 2019 #36
bullwinkle428 Oct 2019 #45
Jarqui Oct 2019 #46
pansypoo53219 Oct 2019 #38
lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #39
DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #41
Duppers Oct 2019 #42
Roy Rolling Oct 2019 #44

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:45 AM

1. Not sure this is the hill I want Hayes to "die on", but I applaud his integrity/courage

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:21 AM

25. I think if it's not the hill...

It's the hill right next to it.

Fuck Andy Lack and NBC's "slow-walking" of this. Who else became a victim in the meantime?

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Response to Ztolkins (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:26 AM

26. We need Hayes there, as we do Rachel, Lawrence & a few others dealing with Trump exposure

and the impeachment process. I'm certainly am not saying this is not equally important, but it is not as imminently so for the entire US population.

Sure he needs to report on it, but if he's going to burn his bridges with his employer, I'd hope he would do so advisedly. We need him and others like him.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:47 AM

2. Most damning for NBC

Hayes lays out very directly that within a couple of months of leaving NBC, Ronan Farrow had his Pulitzer winning story published in the New Yorker. Where NBC couldn't feature the sourcing on Farrow's story, the New Yorker was willing to publish scant weeks later. For a story this big, going with the story on that short a timeline (and winning a major journalistic award) indicates that Farrow's story was ready to air, but NBC shied away for some reason (fear of crossing Weinstein?).

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:59 AM

3. Excellent commentary

Well done Chris

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:18 AM

43. Agreed. Props to Chris!

I love how he was just about out the door at NBC and managed to rally back with some of the hardest-hitting reporting and opinion of the Trump* era.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:11 AM

4. Awakening

Thank you Dennis Donovan, Chris Hayes and Bernie Sanders.

The loyalty to a paycheck does not have to dictate abolishment of ethics. Not does an issue have to produce sensational headlines to become a vocal topic of concern. Consider economists that support policies that lead to the destruction of the economy lest they jeopardize a paycheck. How many economists do you see supporting an aggressive progressive tax code that would funnel money back into the economy.

Our reverent fascination with the life styles of the rich and famous has to be replaced with focus on giving everybody complete healthcare. Celebrating billionaires has to be replaced with proudly guaranteeing a living wage. Everybody could “Go to Disney World” if the laws of the country favored the majority instead of the powerful few.

Chris Hayes, thanks.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:26 AM

5. And yet I remember that white supremacist bow tied dick Carlson

making fun of Hayes. As if he were some kind less than manly, so called "sissy". Now here's this "wimpy-beta male" doing something Fucker Carlson would never have the nads to do reg his own employer.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:40 AM

6. I hope we don't hear sooner rather than later that Chris

is leaving to spend more time with his family. We need this kind of courage. Thank you, Chris!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:44 AM

7. Chris Hayes is badass - laying it all out like this

I don't want to see Chris fired over this, but he is taking chances here. I'm glad that he has chosen integrity over a steady paycheck, and he's showing leadership that most of the other TV journalists haven't done.

Message to Chris - if you should leave your current employment, I for one will follow you wherever you go!

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:21 AM

14. if Chris does

leave he has a multitude of other networks to go to even NetFlix. He has a choice.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:36 PM

37. I have followed Chris Hayes since his days at The Nation,

where he wrote brilliant stories from 2002 - 2010, when NBC snatched him away. He has always stood up for what he believes and his integrity rolls over idiots like Tucker Carlson (who always looks like he's two weeks constipated to me).

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:48 AM

8. Chris seems pretty pissed off about this whole situation.

I’ve been watching him some lately, and he has been nailing it!

He did a really good live show last Friday. He is great in that setting!

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:28 AM

18. I also like his live shows...

Wouldn't want him to do it every night, maybe, but the once a week thing is a great format.

We need to have more shows where they show actual audiences cheering for good journalism and progressive reporting.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:48 AM

9. Bravo - Chris. Good job.

Good reporting. Spot on analysis.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:53 AM

10. Can somebody summarize what he said

for those of us that can't watch video at work.

Thanks

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:01 AM

12. He starts out talking about the NBA/China thing

and how taking the path of least resistance to avoid conflict is done frequently, even if there may be moral or other reasons to pursue confrontation. Then he says, "Heck," and continues on about how NBC chose not to engage in conflict with Harvey Weinstein or his powerful friends and followers, but former NBC colleague Ronan Farrow pursued the truth and personified the ideals of journalism by effecting cultural change.
That's my take.

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:26 AM

17. Thank you

that was helpful

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:00 AM

11. He's a good man.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:09 AM

13. I find myself watching to see if Ronan Farrow gets booked as a guest on MSNBC.

Where he once had a show of his own for a brief period, if you’ll recall.

Saw him on CNN this morning. Have the MSNBC bookers been told not to approach him?

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Response to calimary (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:30 AM

20. I've seen him on Rachel at least twice. Yes, he is booked.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:25 AM

15. Much respect

I think he is the most "leftist" person in mainstream media.

Peace

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:26 AM

16. Speaking truth to power - good job Chris!

It's ironic how we condemn FOX for deliberately lying and misleading its viewers.
But there are also "sins of omission" that most likely every one of the big news media outlets are guilty of.
Those are the sins we never see because they aren't brought out into the light of day.
Chris Hayes really nailed this.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:29 AM

19. So much for the underrating of Chris Hayes. Go, Chris!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:53 AM

21. Chris has been on the Stephanie Miller show and is very outspoken about things there as well.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:56 AM

22. Go Team!

I like this fellow the more I watch.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:57 AM

23. Who is this guy and what has he done with Chris Hayes?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:59 AM

24. He's also calling his

cohorts and peers to step up their game and go out there and do their jobs, too.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:31 AM

27. I read a couple weeks ago where Chris is married to one of the NBC bigwig's daughter.

I may be wrong, but don't think so.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:13 AM

31. Info below

On July 14, 2007, Hayes married his college sweetheart Kate Shaw, currently a professor of law at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law and a Supreme Court contributor for ABC News; they met while attending Brown together. His father-in-law is veteran Chicago reporter Andy Shaw. Hayes and Shaw resided in Washington, D.C.


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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:16 AM

32. Well, that post I read was certainly wrong. I stand corrected. Thanks!

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:13 AM

40. His wife also worked in the WH Counsel's office

and clerked for Justice Stevens. She seems quite an accomplished lawyer.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:43 AM

28. Way To Go Chris!

Took courage, we know what happened to others who spoke real truth like Cenk U and Olberman and the late Ed Schultz.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

29. I don't think Chris Hayes is worried

Standing on the side of Farrow's Pulitzer and squarely on the responsibilities and expectations of the Fourth Estate is a nudge to news organizations everywhere, and NBC has been more true than the rest of them over the last 10-15 years.

If they canned Chris Hayes he'd have a new job in a week, maybe not 8pm on cable network, but who knows. He will be a serious force in journalism for decades.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

30. Epstein

 

Would be another power player name Chris Hayes did not mention and should have!

Epstein preyed upon children!!!!!
All those people that Chris Hayes was talking about being victimized were adults.

Epstein preyed on children - specifically females. And his money silenced them, and his money silenced anyone who knew, and his money allowed powerful people like princes and “would be” presidents to prey upon children!

This is all fucking sick. So sickening!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:00 PM

33. He's got some nerve

and I’m glad he did this! Watching it live was an amazing TV moment, because you could practically hear NBC execs’ teeth gnashing in penthouses and on yachts.

Good on ya, Chris, for speaking the truth, consequences be damned.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:09 PM

34. Thank you to Chris Hayes

We need all the tough journalism he and others can muster.

Quarterly profits wouldn’t mean a darn thing against a landscape of waste, corruption, and oppression.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:09 PM

35. I thought he had...thanks, Chris!❤

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:28 PM

36. He is not on tonight ... :( nt

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:43 AM

45. He was reporting and interviewing candidates live from the debate

last night - that's why Joy Reid was substituting.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:54 AM

46. Good. Hope he doesn't lose his job over this. nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:19 AM

38. NBC did run the mother of all motherfuckers. the apprentice. elevated a prick far above his level.

did they all pee together at the bohemian club?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:01 AM

39. Chris knows: If the news, and if the police, and if the lawyers, and if the politicians don't admit

that they occasionally have bad actors, and say so, then they lose credibility. And credibility is all the news has.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:20 AM

41. I heard this commentary and, tbh, came

away with an entirely different take. I didn't think Hayes was slamming NBC as much as explaining what happened. I'm also skeptical of Ronan Farrow.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:15 AM

42. Hubs and I watch this in real time

And looked at each other and said "WOW! THAT took some guts."

Chris has stepped up and gone over "the bar."

BRAVO!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:36 AM

44. I like Chris Hayes

Speaking truth to power is a journalist’s job, even when the power is your employer.

But is this story really “Chris Hayes stands up to employer”? Because large organizations dragging their feet to cover their ass is a daily occurrence, not especially newsworthy.

History will show that Farrow won, NBC lost, end of story. NBC was forced to fire Matt Lauer anyway and Farrow’s Epstein story was delayed by only 7 weeks. I’m not interested in the internals of NBC, and I would suspect NBC benefits from Chris Hayes’ tongue-lashing.

So goodbye Epstein story, hello NBC internal decision-making story. Sorry, still not interested. If anything, I suspect NBC and Hayes are now staging this on-air quarrel for ratings.

But if Hayes is fired I stand corrected. 😂😂

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