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Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:06 PM

The. Flag.

The right is trying to "own" patriotism and its symbols. We see MAGATs waving the flag or wearing one. We see rednecks driving pickup trucks with an American flag sticker on the back right next to their Trump sticker.

Many of us are ashamed of some of the things our country has done, or is doing, and we think that raising or honoring the flag means we support what our government does.

A friend recently mentioned to me that he thinks the right owns the flag now. Obviously that a bit of an overstatement. But it is true, I think most lefties wouldn't be seen in public with a flag on their shirt or their hat or on car bumper sticker. And if we see someone with with a flag on their shirt, we often make an assumption about their political views.

Fuck that.

They don't own the flag and we can't let them try to.

The flag is symbolic of our country and our Constitution (NOT the people currently holding office). That Constitution is going to save us from this tyrant.

The flag is a symbol of our freedom. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech and others, which we still have to some degree, and are also going to help save us from the tyrant.

If we let the right own the flag, we are doomed, not only as a party but as a country.

One of my heroes is Abbie Hoffman. When he was leading the protests against the Vietnam War, he understood this. He was ashamed of what his country was doing too. But he waved the flag. He wore the flag. And it wasn't a gimmick. He knew exactly what he was doing.



When Abbie wore the flag, he was saying "you can't do this. Its our country too."

I'm not saying we should all wear shirts like Abbie's. I'm saying we should not let the other side own the flag and patriotism, although they try. We should wave the flag, just like them. Just like Abbie.

Yes I am ashamed of my country in many ways. But I'm not going to let the current administration and the downward direction we've taken in the last few years cause me to lose my faith, hope, or love of this country or the flag that symbolizes it.

It's our flag.

Note: Of course if you are really upset or worried about what is happening in our country, you can always hold the flag upside down

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:11 PM

1. Yes. see my avatar...nt

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:12 PM

2. that has been my avatar here on DU a few times as well. nt

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:17 PM

3. I have an American flag on my back bumper

upside down, slapped on top of my Hillary sticker.

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Response to Tracyjo (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:19 PM

4. right on. n/t

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Response to Tracyjo (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:03 AM

10. I have flag stickers on my vehicles.

 

Right side up, and no political stickers. We fly the flag on our house, too. I love and served America, regardless of who is in office. No one can take that away.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:25 PM

5. The hardest part of freedom is giving it to others...

the right is trying to take away our freedom to be the kind of American we want to be.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:45 PM

6. Does anyone see a flag pin on Ivanka's outfit at the UN?

Does anyone see a flag pin on Ivanka's outfit at the UN?

Have any patriotic republicans complained?

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

7. no but,

i can see the roots of her hair enough to tell she is not a natural blonde

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:45 AM

8. No, but she is surely proudly displaying something else, isn't she? And before someone jumps on me

...for being a judgmental body-shaming old lady, let me just say: Ivanka is doing this on purpose. It seems to be a fashion statement with her in nearly all her clothing, and apparently she's also seen Melania's "kidney doctor" this year, as it has become more prominent and accentuated.

Patriotic Republicans just looooove Ivanka.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:16 AM

9. i doubt all that is real, and

either way, it is definitely intentional

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:57 PM

11. Flag on your shirt was disrespect during Viet Nam. BIG CHANGE is........

You did not fly the flag at night. It was taken down every evening and properly folded. You burned worn out flags. The flag did not touch the ground.
You did not leave small flags along a road 24X7.

It is inconvenient for many to respect the flag, so they changed it.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:20 PM

12. The T-Party started the whole flag-waving, patriotism rip-off scam.

Makes me sick.

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