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Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:48 PM

Black family arrested for 'loitering' on their own front lawn

On October 1, a black family was standing in the front yard of their home, when police approached. They were arrested for loitering even though they were on their own property, reports KYW news.

Loitering offenses have historically been used as a way to purge people seen as undesirable, such as the homeless, from public spaces.

Now, the family is demanding answers from the Chester Township Police Department in Pennsylvania.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/black-family-arrested-for-loitering-on-their-own-front-lawn/#.XaSxRD_5EaE.twitter

So besides not being safe from being shot inside one's own home, African Americans can't even stand in their own yards.

What is wrong with the cops in this country? Answer: Look at Ecuador. The military there came to the aid of civilians. None of the police did. They gassed and clubbed them in the streets.

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Reply Black family arrested for 'loitering' on their own front lawn (Original post)
Generic Other Oct 2019 OP
TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #1
TeamPooka Oct 2019 #24
snort Oct 2019 #2
malaise Oct 2019 #3
42bambi Oct 2019 #6
malaise Oct 2019 #11
happy feet Oct 2019 #18
cwydro Oct 2019 #39
MineralMan Oct 2019 #4
BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #5
moose65 Oct 2019 #22
BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #42
Brainfodder Oct 2019 #7
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #8
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #9
Takket Oct 2019 #10
lunamagica Oct 2019 #12
Perseus Oct 2019 #13
Celerity Oct 2019 #35
Bettie Oct 2019 #14
obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #15
Blue_playwright Oct 2019 #21
underpants Oct 2019 #29
Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #16
dalton99a Oct 2019 #33
stopdiggin Oct 2019 #17
aggiesal Oct 2019 #28
Hortensis Oct 2019 #19
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #20
lunasun Oct 2019 #23
rocktivity Oct 2019 #25
no_hypocrisy Oct 2019 #26
gay texan Oct 2019 #27
dawg day Oct 2019 #30
avebury Oct 2019 #31
LonePirate Oct 2019 #38
burrowowl Oct 2019 #43
spike jones Oct 2019 #32
Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #34
Jarqui Oct 2019 #36
Hav Oct 2019 #37
Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #40
demigoddess Oct 2019 #41
Maraya1969 Oct 2019 #44
DFW Oct 2019 #45

Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:53 PM

1. This is the kind of crap that demands the bully pulpit take it on. Unfortunately...

The current bully in the pulpit is encouraging it.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:50 PM

24. He's why the racists are emboldened to act

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:53 PM

2. Pigs be piggin.

It's what they do.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:55 PM

3. We're not expected to own a yard

Don't you get it. We're too damned uppity - owning yards- what next a BMW?

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:59 PM

6. Let alone standing in their own yards! WTH.

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Response to 42bambi (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:26 PM

11. Living while black is not good for our health

seriously.

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:05 PM

18. The truth!

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 04:09 PM

39. Is it that bad where you live?

I know there’s a hella crime and murder problem there, but I thought otherwise it was ok.

Certainly for those with money.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:55 PM

4. Incredible!

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

5. So angry I could punch a wall. n/t

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:35 PM

22. Better not do that while black!

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Response to moose65 (Reply #22)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:39 PM

42. You're right!

I’m an old white chick. I realize I would be treated lightly. 😕

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:04 PM

7. Humanity is an embarrassment?

The other species are probably as pissed off as this family.

are they teaching these trigger happy cops?





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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:15 PM

8. Un-fuckin-believsble!! Cept its not... this shit has to end!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:17 PM

9. lawyers should be lining up, filling their front yard

Make the township pay dearly.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:17 PM

10. I'm sure this happens to white families all the time

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:41 PM

12. This has gone way, way too far...trumps legacy

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:43 PM

13. "What is wrong with the cops in this country?"...I think its obvious that white supremacists have

infiltrated police departments throughout the USA.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:40 PM

35. they did not have to infiltrate, they were there from the beginning, often BECAUSE they were white

power FUCKERS.

I (multiracial part black) can be dressed like I just stepped out of Monte Carlo, literally, perfect dress, bag, heels, watch, jewellery, etc etc (I won't bore you with the brands), all posh as fuck, and my wife (white blonde Swede) can toss on old dirty sweats, unwashed hair, and a cap, we can walk into any ultra high end High Street store, Harvery Nics, Harrods, most places on Rodeo Drive, most on Champs-Élysées, Bergdorf Goodman, Barneys (NYC is the worst, along with Hong Kong) etc etc and I am going to be the one with the undercover store detectives following me around.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:47 PM

14. WTF?

so, why aren't black people allowed to be in their own fucking yards now?

Oh and then this from a more local source:

When the young men, who are black, were released from jail, they were greeted by family members on that same lawn where they were arrested. Kevin Mincey, the family's lawyer, said that's when officer Storace, who is white, showed up and decided to re-arrest them as well as several other members of their family.

[link:https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/family-fights-back-after-loitering-arrest-outside-their-home|

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Response to Bettie (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:50 PM

15. wtaf

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Response to Bettie (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:29 PM

21. Holy. Shit.

That’s fing insane. Wtf is wrong with the world? We are supposed to be better than this by now...

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Response to Bettie (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:14 PM

29. Wow. That's all kinds of messed up.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:00 PM

16. two days in a row, they were arrested

https://atlantablackstar.com/2019/10/11/we-just-came-home-black-philly-family-feels-targeted-after-police-arrest-them-two-days-in-a-row-for-loitering-on-their-own-property/

Rachel Briggs says their troubles began on Oct. 1 when Officer Pasquale Storace III arrested her sons and nephews for loitering as they were playing in their front yard. Family attorney Kevin Mincey told local radio station KYW 1060 that when the young men were bailed out and returned home the next day Storace came by the house and began to re-arrest the just-bailed out group, this time hauling in other family members as well.

Attorney Kevin Fitzpatrick, who also is representing the family, told CBS Philly the township’s loitering statute was struck down in court in 2012 because the court ruled it too vague.


Mincey told KYW of the statute, “It essentially says there are to be well posted areas of no loitering signs up that say ‘no loitering.’ There are no ‘no loitering’ signs in this particular neighborhood.”

Fitzpatrick added that, based on recent arrests, it seems police are using the disputed law to abuse their powers.

“Who do they think they are to victimize a family like this and do this to someone in the community,” Fitzpatrick asked. “Who do they think they are?”

Turquoise Benso, a neighbor who witnessed the incident, told CBS Philly he observed 15 police cars at one point in the encounter.

“I just felt that the police presence was excessive,” he said. “Fifteen police cars — that’s a lot for a family of four or five.”

The family is expected in court on Oct. 17.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:24 PM

33. +1

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:02 PM

17. whoever is advising this police department

is fixin' to cost the city a good chunk of change. Any statute they THINK they're hiding behind is plainly unconstitutional. And now they have a thousand lawyers lining up to take this case pro-bono. Great job, officer Storace! I'm sure the city council will be considering an award.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:14 PM

28. They should be considering a pink slip. n/t

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:11 PM

19. Loitering laws? Outrageous. They shouldn't apply to anyone

at their own residence and, unless other laws or rights of others are violated, that includes the sidewalk, the planting strip, the driveway, etc. All the places residents normally have a right to be. Especially on streets like this where the setback is too shallow to reasonably keep to.

The police arrested some of these same people right before this. So this is a second harassment and arrest.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:14 PM

20. "What is wrong with cops in this country?" It's an institution built on white

supremacy to uphold white interests.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:35 PM

23. Well whether you are just standing around or doing something like cleaning up your own lawn it

is a danger while black
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/08/colorado-cops-confrontation-black-man-sparks-uproar-trash-video/3102930002/

The March 1 morning incident happened while the civilian was tidying up his own yard with a bucket and another trash tool that the officer appears to have mistaken for a possible weapon.

A viral cellphone video of the incident, taken by another person who lives in the same building, has sparked anger over perceived racial profiling in Boulder, home to the University of Colorado. Boulder police have launched an internal investigation

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:09 PM

25. Bought this camera tripod with carrying case less than a month ago

Sounds like it's going to be so much fun to travel with




rocktivity

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:10 PM

26. Remember when Prof. Henry Gates was arrested for

breaking and entering INTO HIS OWN HOME?

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:10 PM

27. Wait a fucking second

So a family is arrested because they are enjoying their front yard as they see fit.

They get released the next day and are arrested again for enjoying their front yard as they see fit.

What the ever literal fuck.

Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer. I would gladly pro-bono my services and make the cops lives a fucking nightmare

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:17 PM

30. I hope the family sues them for many thousands

It seems the only way to get municipalities to take notice is to take their money.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #30)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:21 PM

31. I would up that to millions.

Arresting them twice for being outside their own home indicates a pattern. Their attorney should be looking for other people who have been arrested for being outside their homes. There might be a possibility of a class action lawsuits.

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Response to avebury (Reply #31)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 04:01 PM

38. Bankrupting the cities and/or officers responsible for this crap may be the only solution.

There certainly will not be any job losses stemming from this mess, unless the victimized family members lose their jobs.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

43. I hope so too

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:22 PM

32. "The cops don't need you, and man they expect the same." - B. Dylan

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:36 PM

34. That is so horrible

And rearrested the next day? I wish I could call it inconceivable.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:52 PM

36. Beyond appalling. Hopefully, some unemployed cops in the near future.

And sue their heads off because saying this is horribly wrong isn't enough.
These so-called police need to be punished beyond reasonable doubt so that no one has any doubt about this BS not being tolerated in the future.

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:56 PM

37. Not only arrested and dragged from their own porch

They are now also facing charges...With the news it generated, I'm sure the police will either drop it or a judge will hopefully throw it out.

On the other side, I guess it's progress that they survived this. Granted, for that they had to accept the crime of standing in front of their house.

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Response to Hav (Reply #37)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 05:21 PM

40. by the same cop. Clearly he's using his position to target them

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:21 PM

41. What is wrong with the cops in this country?

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:46 AM

44. The prosecutor has not dropped the Criminal charges and they still have to go to court to defend

themselves! What?

I hope they sue; each one of them and I hope they get a lot of money!

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Response to Generic Other (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:54 AM

45. I went to college in Southeastern Pennsylvania, and the cops there were like this 50 years ago.

The one time I ever voted Republican was when the Philadelphia Democrats nominated the corrupt police commissioner, Frank Rizzo, as their candidate for mayor. He used to be proud of how his goon cops would beat peace advocates at anti-war demonstrations with their nightsticks. He won, but at least he switched to the Republican Party soon after taking office, putting embarrassment back where it belonged.

These Chester cops need to be fired for false arrest, and then charged with criminal felony assault. The town of Chester deserves to file for bankruptcy after paying this family what it deserves to collect in damages.

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