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(3,244 posts)hmanne
(92 posts)without any interaction with the nations nuclear arsenal.
Kid Berwyn
(14,522 posts)POE
Srkdqltr
(6,084 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)about the many destructive effects of nuclear explosions, both short and long-term or EMP? I'll bet more average, ever day people do.
That is both a both a completely ridiculous and extremely dangerous thing to say.
iluvtennis
(19,716 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I suggest decommissioning.
I would like to put him in a room and have him listen to an audio version of the book, Hiroshima, over and over for several days.
And that doesn't even take into account the sensitive electronics we now depend on. The EMP would throw the surrounding areas within a given distance from each detonation into the Stone Age immediately.
Oh well.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If major US cities are nuked, the whole country and the world are dead. That fool won't be able to hide in a bunker in the countryside and live like he thinks he will be able to.
mountain grammy
(26,552 posts)it's just so much worse when the country has an illegitimate president who is also nuts.
GoCubsGo
(32,053 posts)These morons have no fucking clue. They think that detonating one of these weapons causes a big explosion, and then it's over. No clue as to things like fallout, air currents, etc. It's "The Idiocracy" meets "Mad Max."
mountain grammy
(26,552 posts)brush
(53,331 posts)who knows how long? What craziness.
GoCubsGo
(32,053 posts)The whole world. Bikini Atoll is still uninhabitable 70 years after the fact, and will remain that way for millenia. The Chernobyl accident contaminated a huge part of Europe. That was just from one reactor incident. How much of its "exclusion zone" will never become inhabitable again? None of it. Imagine multiplying that by taking out all of the American cities with bombs that contain even more contamination. This imbecile thinks a nuclear winter is a "great rebirth"? His stupidity is mind-boggling.
tblue37
(64,855 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If a fairly small number of nukes are detonated, nuclear winter blankets the earth and lasts for so many years that all of our known energy supplies would get depleted, then the frigid cold will kill anything that managed to survive to the point of energy depletion.
BadgerMom
(2,765 posts)Thanks to Mercer and, probably Breitbart, his mouthpiece, this thinking is out there in the culture. Mercerbillionaire oligarch and science denier.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Fucking psycho! This is what 30 years of hate radio has brought us. Not that these people weren't unbalanced to begin with, but it has directed their resentment and fury toward everything decent in this society. Someone like this should not be allowed to own weapons or even be walking the streets IMO.
hmanne
(92 posts)For expressing an opinion, however repugnant it may be?
He's nuts, no doubt about that, but he does have a 1st amend. right to say this shit.
packman
(16,296 posts)He has a right to say any shit he wants. THE POINT is that he is in the military and in an authoritative position as an officer. As such his words carry weight and consequences far beyond what you and I may spout out. Frankly it scares the shit out of me when a supposedly leader of any military branch says such things.
He should either resign or be fired.
hmanne
(92 posts)this fuckstick has no place in the military.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That causes me to sleep better at night.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Entirely. Ucmj only applies when on duty as i understand it.
-_O_-
(21 posts)It does cover shouting fire in a theater if you reasonably believe that there is a fire.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)His "views" are uneducated and dangerous and should not be held by an active or reserve leader in our military.
And anyone else who espouses his views.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Outside of the military he is a private citizen not representative of his branch or the us government. If this were the case, Representative Ted Lieu -a lt colonel in the US Air Force Reserves, who has said a ton of insulting remarks about the commander in chief, would have been court martialed a long time ago.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)in a role as a civilian and a reserve military officer fantasizing about mass murder. The two are NOT the same and to imply so is somewhat tone deaf. If Ted Lieu said that a nuke should be dropped on the White House or on a CPAC conference, there would be no way that I would be comfortable with him - but he has not and likely will not and most likely don't believe in espousing such hatred.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)
On edit: it sounds like this happended on active duty, in which case ucmj definitely applies.
MineralMan
(146,116 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,362 posts)Yeah, ain't that a great idea?
hmanne
(92 posts)apparently he knows nothing about the aftereffects of a nuclear explosion.
keithbvadu2
(36,305 posts)"Poole, who goes by Jeff, is an operations officer at the 98th Training Division at Fort Benning, Georgia, an initial entry unit for Army Reserve soldiers, an Army Reserve spokesman confirmed."
Savannah - Atlanta - Augusta - Columbus - bye, bye
"He also mentioned planning to retire from the Army at 20 years."
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/10/11/cid-investigating-whether-army-infantry-officer-called-for-mass-murder-and-destruction-amid-racist-anti-government-reddit-screeds/
GoCubsGo
(32,053 posts)What a horrible, dangerous mix. "Healthy reset"??? I guess this fuckstick never heard of nuclear fallout? Hopefully, this stupid, hateful sack of shit have plenty of time in prison to watch "The Day After", "Threads", the various documentaries on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Nevada Test Site, Chernobyl, etc., about why obliterating cities with nuclear weapons won't just kill the people he doesn't like.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Being an ignorant fuck that spout off incomprehensible shit unfortunately is not illegal in our country.
myohmy2
(3,118 posts)...this guy the boot...
...we don't need anyone like him in the military...
...we don't need anyone like him near any form of weaponry, military or civilian...
...Major no less...unbelievable...
...
hmanne
(92 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,053 posts)Other than in a padded room.
hmanne
(92 posts)but he can do it in civilian life instead of the military.
Cerridwen
(13,251 posts)Apocalypse Now - played by Robert Duvall
I heard a saying recently; "repair or repeat." Essentially, fix a problem or keep having the same problem.
Another saying; "history repeats itself."
I think we need to start repairing rather than just remembering history.
Your mileage may vary.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)lpbk2713
(42,674 posts)Trump is dialing right now.
hmanne
(92 posts)getagrip_already
(14,078 posts)Once advocated for the National Guard to be issued tactical nuclear weapons. It was a stupid idea even back then.
czarjak
(11,137 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,603 posts)czarjak
(11,137 posts)Hestia
(3,818 posts)bugmen
Nietzschean word to describe the opposite of the ubermenschen. Men who have no spiritual passion or greater vision or drive outside of hedonistic pleasures and consumerism.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bugmen
Applies to 75% of the people, wouldn't you think?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,603 posts)You are deluded if you think the deplorables the tweet was aimed at read Nietzsche.
Nitram
(22,614 posts)LW1977
(1,227 posts)Dishonorable discharge would not be enough for this puke! Trumps America..
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,603 posts)roamer65
(36,738 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,343 posts)His commission, pension, benefits, etc.
sarisataka
(18,145 posts)He is attached to the Army Reserve, not the National Guard. They are different entities.
He appears to be a candidate for Article 133
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Otherwise ted lieu would have been court martialed a long time ago.
sarisataka
(18,145 posts)There is the possibility that off duty conduct could fall under the UCMJ but there would have to be a direct connection to the military. Such occurrences are rare.
In this case however I believe the major is on the active duty staff of a Reserve training unit. As such he is subject to the UCMJ.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But I hope people can distinguish beteween how being in each role will apply differently
sarisataka
(18,145 posts)UCMJ applies 24/7. If he is Reserve it applies while on duty (weekends and yearly two weeks), while on orders to additional active duty and other limited situations related to military service. Example, while in Reserve status I would participate in Toys for Tots events. During that time I was subject to the UCMJ, even though I was on "my" time and not under orders.
If the major is a reservist and wasn't on duty when he made the posts, it would be difficult to charge him under the UCMJ. His posts could be considered during review for promotion
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)And immediately call for the person to be held criminally liable, when that is more then likely not possible. It happened in my unit all the time. Some soldier would say something bad about the president while not on any kind of duty (and in the national guard), so the first seargent (who is apparently attached to that persons social media account) gives an angry tirade to the unit about how he notified jag and you cant do that sort of thing, etc etc...
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)His online rantings sound like the words of a terrorist. I wonder if he ever tried to organize anything with like-minded people who served under him. His position of power is pretty concerning if so. Even if kept this all online, this has to be enough to at least get him out of the military, right?
VOX
(22,976 posts)If his demented wish ever came true, there wouldnt be much left to reset.
Ignorant, insane, racist, anti-Semitic, fantasizing about the death of millions... this Army Reserve major is the perfect laboratory specimen of a Trumpist.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)this is just the way he expresses his christofascist hatred. You know those cities full of liberals and brown folks.
Not to mention the latest cause de fascisti, the homeless.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Captain Zero
(6,687 posts)Has he really thought this through ??