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Exactly this... (Original Post) Soph0571 Oct 2019 OP
{ This post moot } Not Exactly this... That's a manufactured fake quote. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #1
Source please Soph0571 Oct 2019 #3
Twitter, from June. I found it in seconds. You will do the same. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #6
So you know where it is. You have it. But you want to do a control thing about sharing it? Soph0571 Oct 2019 #11
Get off it. It's not about control. It's about due diligence. I did it when you didn't. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #15
Actually, he did. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #20
Thanks. Already apologized to OP. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #22
AND... Soph0571 Oct 2019 #23
It is so easy for the dirty trick side to make fake memes that yes, I was hyper-vigilant, Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #24
Peace my friend Soph0571 Oct 2019 #26
As it turns out he did write a second one. Sorry that I was only 50% correct. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #21
Point of fact is that he's tweeted it both with and without 'wypipo' nilram Oct 2019 #10
Thank you :-) For the clarification. Soph0571 Oct 2019 #12
Interesting. Thank you for correcting me. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #18
Caught out posting "fake shit" The King of Prussia Oct 2019 #25
A sin of omission is not a sin of commission. Huge difference. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #27
There are a couple different versions of the quote on his Twitter feed. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #16
Can't really argue with this... Moral Compass Oct 2019 #2
Load of BS. Most white men would be toast too. docgee Oct 2019 #4
There are plenty of white men who got away with it and worse... She_Totally_Gets_It Oct 2019 #5
I would say it has more to do with how rich you are. docgee Oct 2019 #8
Let's please not have this race v. class debate. Race is central She_Totally_Gets_It Oct 2019 #14
Actually it's you that needs to come to terms with reality, not everything is 100% about race. Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #29
But it helps to be wealthy, affluent and white. RVN VET71 Oct 2019 #35
Unless you are black, please don't tell me what I need to do. She_Totally_Gets_It Oct 2019 #36
You're the one who was dictating to me, I did not respond to your post, you responded to mine Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #37
I agree with most of that. docgee Oct 2019 #30
There is no question that racism exists, that is not even debatable, but Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #7
I get what you are saying, but.. Soph0571 Oct 2019 #9
There is no way I'm going to defend Trump, he's a straight up piece of shit Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #13
No! Please stop! She_Totally_Gets_It Oct 2019 #17
Stop what? Soph0571 Oct 2019 #28
Stop everything after "but" because its bullshit. Nt live love laugh Oct 2019 #32
Ah! Got it. Thanks Soph0571 Oct 2019 #33
Tell it! ancianita Oct 2019 #19
Trump still has some good Christian women supporters keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #31
Disgusting. I'd rather grab a lit firecracker than get near this POS...nt SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #34

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
1. { This post moot } Not Exactly this... That's a manufactured fake quote.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:06 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Swan did not write "wypipo".

Look up the actual quote and do not post fake shit even when your heart is in the right place as it is frequently including this thread.

Counter propaganda works ONLY WHEN it is:

* true and accurate
* clear
* fast

Faking words and stuffing them into people's mouths, especially those making common cause with us, does not work.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
3. Source please
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:20 PM
Oct 2019

If this is inaccurate I am more than happy to correct... I am a monster for truth - please point me to the original. I do not think that is the interesting thing going go here though. Did he say the content that I highlighted? That is what matters in the context of post - which is why I highlighted it!

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
11. So you know where it is. You have it. But you want to do a control thing about sharing it?
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:34 PM
Oct 2019

Gotta tell you that that is a wee bit fucked up when you were so quick to call me out on it. Hey ho!

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
15. Get off it. It's not about control. It's about due diligence. I did it when you didn't.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:38 PM
Oct 2019

Since you need the help, here's the link:


As I said, he did not write the inflammatory word "wypipo", which steps on his message.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
20. Actually, he did.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:40 PM
Oct 2019

There are a couple different versions of the quote.

Here's the other:




You might want to tone down the condescension since the OP appears to be an accurate representation of one version of Swan's quote.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
23. AND...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:45 PM
Oct 2019



I came to you worrying I was posting something that did not pass the smell test- because you states very strongly that it did not. It did, as it turns out but you tried to make me look like a dick in a rather passive aggressive way. Heh.

PS. I a not getting off shit Ever.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
24. It is so easy for the dirty trick side to make fake memes that yes, I was hyper-vigilant,
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:47 PM
Oct 2019

Perhaps over-vigilant.

I apologize.

In my defense I would say that having found one tweet that differed in a key word, I really did not expect there to be another almost identical one since there so very rarely is.



Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
26. Peace my friend
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:53 PM
Oct 2019

I accept. And in your obvious fact driven character check out the chap on this thread who is a right wing talking point on this topic...

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
27. A sin of omission is not a sin of commission. Huge difference.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:54 PM
Oct 2019

And my omission was not a sin was entirely natural because it is extremely rare for there to be a nearly identical tweet living along with an undeleted tweet (i.e. not a tweet over-riding a deleted tweet).

However the side of dirty tricks has a habit of making fake memes and it is important to do due diligence to avoid getting tricked. The OP was not tricked, it turns out, fortunately.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
16. There are a couple different versions of the quote on his Twitter feed.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:38 PM
Oct 2019

Bishop Swan does use "wypipo" in this version:




So, the OP appears to be accurate.

Moral Compass

(1,513 posts)
2. Can't really argue with this...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:09 PM
Oct 2019

Can’t resign from a race, but there are times that I wish that I could.

Some of my people have no shame, no morals, no heart.

Sigh.

 
5. There are plenty of white men who got away with it and worse...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:24 PM
Oct 2019

The reason why R. Kelly got away with it so long is because no one gives a damn about black girls and women. That’s something that we in the black community needs to come to terms with. Society as a whole needs to do better by black girls and women.

docgee

(870 posts)
8. I would say it has more to do with how rich you are.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:30 PM
Oct 2019

But now thinking about it, how many get away with it because they're on the football team or some other shit.

 
14. Let's please not have this race v. class debate. Race is central
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:37 PM
Oct 2019

... and systemic racism exists. It is absolutely true that white males get away with a fair amount of crimes that black males would never get away with. Same with white women. While I understand that your average celebrity of color has the means to fight back, I’m referring to the vast numbers of average black folk who are trapped in the system regardless of class, who are wrongly accused regardless of class. I have two masters and a doctorate, but that doesn’t stop me from constantly being followed, harassed, or disrespected.

We must come to terms with race and the centrality of race in our country. Nothing will ever change until we do, and start being honest about it.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
29. Actually it's you that needs to come to terms with reality, not everything is 100% about race.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:56 PM
Oct 2019

If you think a poor white man will get away with raping someone just because he's white, you need to get a grip on reality. The common denominator with rapists being able to get away with it is wealth and affluence, that is just reality.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
35. But it helps to be wealthy, affluent and white.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:21 PM
Oct 2019

But we're getting way off point here: does anyone think a black man accused of raping and molesting 20+ women of whatever mix of races would have received the kind of pass -- running for president, yet -- as the orange faced dude in the white house? Also, I'm not sure a white Democrat who was so accused would get the same shake as an orange faced Republican.

But, as an addendum, I doubt very much if a black student caught raping an unconscious girl (regardless her race) would have been given the wrist slapping that the affluenza-suffering swimmer, Brock Turner, did -- 6 months, with a 3 month drop for good (affluent white) behavior.

Also, I doubt if a just barely 18 year old white high school student, convicted of rape for having consensual intercourse with a 15 but almost 16 year old class-mate would have received a sentence of 10 years in prison. Yet Marcus Dixon, a black HS football player, received that sentence and spent 15 months of it behind bars before being released by the Georgia State Superior Court Chief Judge who found the original sentence extreme. I think the original sentence would have been very different had Marcus either a) been a white kid or b)had chosen to hav sex with a black girl. Actually, had Marcus been white, I have a strong feeling the charges would have been either dropped out of hand or severely reduced to a misdemeanor punishable by a fine and an apology -- if any charges were levied against him at all.

 
36. Unless you are black, please don't tell me what I need to do.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:58 AM
Oct 2019

Ou don’t live this life. You have no right to dictate to me anything about what it’s like to be a person of color in this society. You have NO right to tell me about race!

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
37. You're the one who was dictating to me, I did not respond to your post, you responded to mine
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:02 AM
Oct 2019

and you're still dictating to me, now you're tell me that only you can discuss race, because everyone else is beneath you, get a grip.

docgee

(870 posts)
30. I agree with most of that.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:17 PM
Oct 2019

Black males are definitely arrested at a higher rate and get stiffer sentences. It's just that rape is a pretty serious crime. It would be like saying white people can get away with murder.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
7. There is no question that racism exists, that is not even debatable, but
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:26 PM
Oct 2019

It has a lot to do with money and affluence too.

Tell that quote to the women Bill Cosby raped, it took some of those women 50 years to finally get justice.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-bill-cosby-timeline-htmlstory.html

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
13. There is no way I'm going to defend Trump, he's a straight up piece of shit
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:35 PM
Oct 2019

But wealth and affluence play a huge part of it, rich people play be a different set of rules regardless of the skin color, and it's getting worse ... to the point that we now have a criminal like Trump in the White House.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
31. Trump still has some good Christian women supporters
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:32 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2019, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump still has some good Christian women supporters

Tweet comments:
Trump supporters are so much hotter then liberals
Conservatives have the best woman, don't we folks?

Is that Ivanka in back?

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