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(48,955 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2019, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Swan did not write "wypipo".
Look up the actual quote and do not post fake shit even when your heart is in the right place as it is frequently including this thread.
Counter propaganda works ONLY WHEN it is:
* true and accurate
* clear
* fast
Faking words and stuffing them into people's mouths, especially those making common cause with us, does not work.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)If this is inaccurate I am more than happy to correct... I am a monster for truth - please point me to the original. I do not think that is the interesting thing going go here though. Did he say the content that I highlighted? That is what matters in the context of post - which is why I highlighted it!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Gotta tell you that that is a wee bit fucked up when you were so quick to call me out on it. Hey ho!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Since you need the help, here's the link:
Link to tweet
As I said, he did not write the inflammatory word "wypipo", which steps on his message.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)There are a couple different versions of the quote.
Here's the other:
Link to tweet
You might want to tone down the condescension since the OP appears to be an accurate representation of one version of Swan's quote.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Link to tweet
I came to you worrying I was posting something that did not pass the smell test- because you states very strongly that it did not. It did, as it turns out but you tried to make me look like a dick in a rather passive aggressive way. Heh.
PS. I a not getting off shit Ever.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Perhaps over-vigilant.
I apologize.
In my defense I would say that having found one tweet that differed in a key word, I really did not expect there to be another almost identical one since there so very rarely is.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)I accept. And in your obvious fact driven character check out the chap on this thread who is a right wing talking point on this topic...
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)nilram
(2,886 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Most appreciated!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)The King of Prussia
(737 posts)Tut tut.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)And my omission was not a sin was entirely natural because it is extremely rare for there to be a nearly identical tweet living along with an undeleted tweet (i.e. not a tweet over-riding a deleted tweet).
However the side of dirty tricks has a habit of making fake memes and it is important to do due diligence to avoid getting tricked. The OP was not tricked, it turns out, fortunately.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)Moral Compass
(1,513 posts)Cant resign from a race, but there are times that I wish that I could.
Some of my people have no shame, no morals, no heart.
Sigh.
docgee
(870 posts)And look how long R Kelly got away with it.
She_Totally_Gets_It
(142 posts)The reason why R. Kelly got away with it so long is because no one gives a damn about black girls and women. Thats something that we in the black community needs to come to terms with. Society as a whole needs to do better by black girls and women.
docgee
(870 posts)But now thinking about it, how many get away with it because they're on the football team or some other shit.
She_Totally_Gets_It
(142 posts)... and systemic racism exists. It is absolutely true that white males get away with a fair amount of crimes that black males would never get away with. Same with white women. While I understand that your average celebrity of color has the means to fight back, Im referring to the vast numbers of average black folk who are trapped in the system regardless of class, who are wrongly accused regardless of class. I have two masters and a doctorate, but that doesnt stop me from constantly being followed, harassed, or disrespected.
We must come to terms with race and the centrality of race in our country. Nothing will ever change until we do, and start being honest about it.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)If you think a poor white man will get away with raping someone just because he's white, you need to get a grip on reality. The common denominator with rapists being able to get away with it is wealth and affluence, that is just reality.
RVN VET71
(2,689 posts)But we're getting way off point here: does anyone think a black man accused of raping and molesting 20+ women of whatever mix of races would have received the kind of pass -- running for president, yet -- as the orange faced dude in the white house? Also, I'm not sure a white Democrat who was so accused would get the same shake as an orange faced Republican.
But, as an addendum, I doubt very much if a black student caught raping an unconscious girl (regardless her race) would have been given the wrist slapping that the affluenza-suffering swimmer, Brock Turner, did -- 6 months, with a 3 month drop for good (affluent white) behavior.
Also, I doubt if a just barely 18 year old white high school student, convicted of rape for having consensual intercourse with a 15 but almost 16 year old class-mate would have received a sentence of 10 years in prison. Yet Marcus Dixon, a black HS football player, received that sentence and spent 15 months of it behind bars before being released by the Georgia State Superior Court Chief Judge who found the original sentence extreme. I think the original sentence would have been very different had Marcus either a) been a white kid or b)had chosen to hav sex with a black girl. Actually, had Marcus been white, I have a strong feeling the charges would have been either dropped out of hand or severely reduced to a misdemeanor punishable by a fine and an apology -- if any charges were levied against him at all.
She_Totally_Gets_It
(142 posts)Ou dont live this life. You have no right to dictate to me anything about what its like to be a person of color in this society. You have NO right to tell me about race!
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)and you're still dictating to me, now you're tell me that only you can discuss race, because everyone else is beneath you, get a grip.
docgee
(870 posts)Black males are definitely arrested at a higher rate and get stiffer sentences. It's just that rape is a pretty serious crime. It would be like saying white people can get away with murder.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)It has a lot to do with money and affluence too.
Tell that quote to the women Bill Cosby raped, it took some of those women 50 years to finally get justice.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-bill-cosby-timeline-htmlstory.html
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Bill Crosby is in prison, hey? Trump is in the WH.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)But wealth and affluence play a huge part of it, rich people play be a different set of rules regardless of the skin color, and it's getting worse ... to the point that we now have a criminal like Trump in the White House.
She_Totally_Gets_It
(142 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)live love laugh
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(35,932 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2019, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)
Trump still has some good Christian women supporters
Tweet comments:
Trump supporters are so much hotter then liberals
Conservatives have the best woman, don't we folks?
Is that Ivanka in back?