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Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:18 AM

Well Look Here: The Kurds did help the Allies in WWII

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Oh, and would you f***ing look at that. The Kurds DID help us win World War 2. First as part of the counter-offensive to the Nazi-backed Iraqi coup of 1941. Later, some served in Albania, Italy and Greece.


Meanwhile Fred Trump apparently never got drafted


The Iraq Levies were an Allied WW2 force largely composed of Assyrian, Kurdish, Armenian, Turkman and Yazidi soldiers. All ethnic groups, I might add, represented in the Syrian Democratic Forces, the anti-ISIS coalition that Trump just betrayed.


There's a tremendous erased history of colonial soldiers serving in WW2. Indian, Arab, African soldiers in large numbers all contributed to the liberation of Axis territory including Europe in frontline combat.


But forgotten because they served under French & British flags.


His grandfather served in France, his great uncle helped liberate Buchenwald, his grandmother built B-29s.




Fred Trump otoh was arrested at a Klan rally in 1927. According to one press report at the time he was wearing robes.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies#1940s
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/9/1891413/-The-Kurds-did-help-the-Allies-in-WWII?utm_campaign=trending



UPDATING FOR MORE:

9th Oct,0930 - the company paraded opposite their Landing crafts [six boats] and issued with Rum rations. At 0200 the Company sailed for two hours to reach the starting point.

At 0400 hrs Company lands at Parachute beach, with overcast sky and ground visibility Ten Yards, the landing was silent and successful.

Number 2 platoon [Assyrian] headed the advance up the slope followed ten minutes later, on its right flank by No. 3 platoon [Kurdish]. During the accent, 3 platoon drifted too far to the right and lost contact with 2 platoon. Captain E Clark was sent to tell platoon to swing back to the left. No; 2 platoon now moved up what should have been no.3 platoons line of advance. Now the company formation was; no.2 platoon in lead, No. 3 platoon right rear, No. 1 platoon left rear, H.Q. and Mortars at rear, rain began to fall as company advanced.

At 0430 Enemy light machinegun opened up on the left flank, No. 1 platoon went in and overran the position sending back prisoners. At 0500 [First light] No2 and 3 platoons engaged enemy posts, overran their positions and sent back more prisoners. 0530- No 2 platoon arrived on the right side of first objective [point 254] and came under heavy fire but could not locate enemy positions, engaged enemy among the ruins, they pushed on and arrived at the right side of main objective [point 264] at 0650hrs and came under fire from Breda 20mm Guns, firing explosive shells. No.1 platoon moved up the left flank, came under long-range enemy fire; they pushed on and arrived on the left side of point 264 at 0730.



more:
http://assyrianlevies.info/battle---albania.html

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Reply Well Look Here: The Kurds did help the Allies in WWII (Original post)
kpete Oct 10 OP
Newest Reality Oct 10 #1
onetexan Oct 10 #3
Newest Reality Oct 10 #8
bigbrother05 Oct 10 #22
olegramps Oct 10 #24
TheBlackAdder Oct 10 #2
Farmer-Rick Oct 10 #14
TheBlackAdder Oct 10 #20
Mc Mike Oct 10 #4
Ellipsis Oct 10 #5
LeftInTX Oct 10 #35
Blue_true Oct 10 #44
TNNurse Oct 10 #6
Texin Oct 10 #17
Kingofalldems Oct 10 #7
keithbvadu2 Oct 10 #15
Kingofalldems Oct 10 #16
sarge43 Oct 10 #27
Nasruddin Oct 10 #30
Post removed Oct 10 #9
abqtommy Oct 10 #11
rzemanfl Oct 10 #29
friend of m and j Oct 10 #32
Hekate Oct 10 #37
abqtommy Oct 10 #41
spooky3 Oct 10 #10
DBoon Oct 10 #31
Hekate Oct 10 #39
B Stieg Oct 10 #12
NewJeffCT Oct 10 #13
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duforsure Oct 10 #18
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Pepsidog Oct 10 #21
flibbitygiblets Oct 10 #25
Thomas Hurt Oct 10 #26
griloco Oct 10 #28
DFW Oct 10 #33
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Hekate Oct 10 #36
Nitram Oct 10 #38
Scurrilous Oct 10 #40
LisaM Oct 10 #42
eissa Oct 10 #43
Beartracks Oct 10 #45
Cha Oct 10 #46
calimary Oct 11 #47

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:22 AM

1. So,

Even when Trump is wrong he's wrong. There is nothing like someone who does not know anything about what they are talking about leading a country.

What could go wrong? Everything!

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:41 AM

3. He doesnt care, he makes crap up. His rabid undereducated base

Eats the crap up and they dont care whether what he says is true or not.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:55 AM

8. True.

Keep in mind that one can be both educated to some degree and loyal. If the appeal to biases and emotion are stronger than reason and facts, it sways opinion.

For instance, I don't think that all farmers today are uneducated. It takes a lot of information and knowledge about agriculture and even technology to run a successful farm.

So, I come to the idea that Trump's manipulation techniques played directly into their vulnerabilities and bias. He most certainly has fooled many business people, (thousands). He uses many tools along the way. That was very obvious when he was campaigning and people of all kinds took his word for it. He touts his prestige, experience, success, (all of which are in question) and adds verbal manipulation and fallacies and combines that with a ruthless, underhanded disregard for ethics, empathy, etc.

When you are in The Spectacle doing a show, you can stick your finger right in the lizard-brain, (emotive reactive) and work people like a carnival barker. If they are not aware of what's going on, they fall prey to it. Very intelligent people even, as is proven, are not immune to becoming cult members.

That is how a confidence man works. There is a setup. The media assisted him because of the show he provided.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:15 AM

22. He's not a Billionaire Real Estate Tycoon, he just played one on TV

At least the FCC requires commercial spokespeople to identified as paid endorsers.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:26 AM

24. Racists don't need to be convinced. They already are willing to follow any fellow racist.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:26 AM

2. It would be interesting to see what his (Fred Trump's) Selective Service card had written on it.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:24 AM

14. Would he even have had one?

If you're not on the list, you don't exist?

But I think what Traitor Trump meant when he said Kurds did not help in WWII, is that they didn't help the Nazis. That's the group the orange idiot identifies with.

He didn't mean America.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:51 AM

20. In 1940, men who were between 18-36 had to register. Trump born 10/11/05 so it would be close.

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The Act went in 0n 9/6/1940, so it would mean that Fred Trump would almost be turning 35.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:44 AM

4. Friedrich the bunder never got drafted. Wonder if he threw any klan riots down at the waterfront,

to stop shipments that supported the Allies.

We know Baron von Fatfuk has always rooted for hitler and the nazis.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:48 AM

5. And Turkey signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis in WW II

a non-aggression pact ess signed between Nazi Germany and Turkey on 18 June 1941 in Ankara by German ambassador to Turkey Franz von Papen.

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:36 PM

35. What's that?

I know Germany and Turkey were long-time allies.

ETA: I found it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Turkish_Treaty_of_Friendship

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #35)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:04 PM

44. Turkey sat out WWII.

They fought with Germany in WWI and had to negotiate with Britain and France not to get punished badly after being defeated. The country was led by a national hero coming toward WWII who was adamant that Turkey not side with Hitler, he made the leaders that took over after he died promise, their "solution" was to sign neutrality pacts with the Allies and Germany (main Axis power).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:50 AM

6. Does Trump even understand the concept of allies????

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:28 AM

17. Yeah, of course! HIS allies are Putin, Xi, Assad, Erdogan, Kim, et al.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:53 AM

7. And no Trump has ever served.

Ever.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:25 AM

15. Some extended Drumpf family members could easily been on the cliffs above Normandy.

Some extended Drumpf family members could easily been on the cliffs above Normandy.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:28 AM

16. Truth

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:50 AM

27. Nah. Service is for clucks.

Drumpfs would be in Berlin cutting deals to get their paws on the stolen valuables the SS boasted.

Fuck 'em. Those losers won't need 'em where they're going.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:49 AM

30. John G Trump

The president's uncle, an electrical engineering professor at MIT, worked on the development of radar in WWII.
He may've worked in England during part of the war as part of a joint development. It looks like his
involvement was extensive.

Radar was a big deal for the Allies and a real wonder weapon that helped win the war. I give him a pass.
I guess this side of the family went straight.

I've never heard of John Trump's descendents in any context with the president. Perhaps the branches aren't that close.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:15 AM

11. Hmmm...you became a member today. I find your post offensive and alerted on it.

Smells like troll to me.

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:39 AM

29. This post knocked my socks off. n/t

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 01:08 PM

32. who are you talking to?

I don't see any post by a new member.

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Response to friend of m and j (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:49 PM

37. "Name Removed. Message Auto-Removed" means you won't be seeing them at all.

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Response to friend of m and j (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:48 PM

41. I was talking to the person who posted an inflammatory reply to the op.

I did notify admin on the post then I put the newbie on total ignore. Maybe that's scorched earth but it works for me.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:15 AM

10. Oh, you liberals, with your "facts." /s

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

31. "Facts are stupid things."

- Saint Ronnie Reagan I

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Response to DBoon (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:12 PM

39. Facts are stubborn things

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:17 AM

12. Good get, kpete!

I never knew this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:17 AM

13. yes, but where were the Kurds

when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:21 AM

23. Or the Bowling Green Massacre?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:30 AM

18. Once again the resident in the White House

Tries to promote lies and propaganda to justify his actions, when he dodged the draft when he should have served. His turning his back on our allies with the Republicans help now is just more foreign policy disasters from the puppet of Putin. Wonder how much trump cost to do this from Turkey? Every Republican not standing up against trump has no place in OUR government. No country should trust trump and the GOP again. Trumps intentionally hurting allies , shaking them down for money too, and lying to do it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:46 AM

19. I was sure they had...

Old Yeller's gut is always wrong when it comes to anything, but, betrayal.

Still no word on any Trumps being anywhere near WWII. They must have called in sick to continue the grifting.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:07 AM

21. The Trumps were a family of traitors and draft dodgers. Donald's grandfather who relocated from

Germany to America then after running a brothel tries to repatriate back to Germany. His request to repatriate was denied because he dodged the draft in Germany. I mean the Drumpfs are an historically unpatriotic and treasonous clan, out just to enrich themselves. Name one good cause Trump is known for? Pimps, traitors, money launderers, and slum lording is their claim to fame. I will note that Eric Trump did create a foundation to help kids which was pretty successful until Donald found out that Trump properties were donating the venue. When he found out, Dotard was furious and screamed “everyone pays”. After that the venue fees increased every year. What a loathsome truly evil person he is.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:30 AM

25. Which is great, but to quote HRC, "What difference does it make?"

WWII was what, 75 years ago? Isn't it important what people are doing now?

I mean, if we're going to get into that realm, are we going to abandon Germany...oh...nevermind.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:43 AM

26. I suspected as much and tried to nose around a bit but got sidetracked.

Nice work.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:05 AM

28. To be fair, Trump's side lost WWII

Does anybody doubt Patton would have slapped Donnie...?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:24 PM

33. Fundamental difference here

We LOOK things up. Republicans MAKE things up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:26 PM

34. Which side would Fred have fought for? After all ...

his kid says he was born in Germany.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:38 PM

36. Pretty much as I thought it would be. Every colonial power had soldiers in both World Wars.

They just fought under the flags of France, Britain, et al.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:50 PM

38. Two of our most important allies today were our enemies in WWII. Two of or closest WWII allies

are now our enemies. Trump's "observation" was meaningless.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:17 PM

40. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:07 PM

42. No one in Trump's family seems to have served in the US armed forces at all.

Clearly not anyone related to either of his parents. I've tried to find out if his brother possibly went to Vietnam, but I can't find anything to show that he did. Obviously, no one from Melania or Ivana's families did.

The only possibility of anyone connected to him would be if someone from Marla Maples' family did (considering that she's from Georgia, there's a good possibility). But my very cursory search didn't find anything about it, though I did learn that her father was an Elvis impersonator and her mother is distantly related to Heather Locklear. Anyway, digression aside, I don't think he'd count Marla Maples as family, anyway.

I would love for some reporter to ask him directly if anyone from the Trump family has ever served in the US military. Now, I don't think that having family who've served in the military necessarily makes a difference to whether one is qualified to hold office. But the way he hugs the flag and yammers on about "our" armed forces makes me wish someone would just force the issue. I'd love to see him twist and turn. And it would probably shock much of his base to find out the answer.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:19 PM

43. My grandfather served in the Iraqi Levies

Part of the Assyrian platoon. In fact, the Levies were predominantly Assyrian, something that would later be used against them as "proof" that the Christian Assyrians would always side with their religious brethern over their neighbors. My maternal side is from Habbaniya, Iraq, where most Assyrians lived at the time, near the RAF base. The allies promised us a safe haven in our indigenous land in exchange for our services, but of course, they never did follow through on that. Shocking, I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:51 PM

45. What?! Trump just made shit up?!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:38 PM

46. Fuck All Impotentrump knows



Mahalo, Kurds!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 12:42 AM

47. K&R

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