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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

NYT: Trump wants a fight. Pelosi can hit back. With rules, rigor, and resolution.

Why Pelosi is RIGHT not to take an impeachment vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/opinion/impeachment-inquiry-trump.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

First, there is nothing magical about a House vote authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The administration’s letter calls it a “necessary authorization,” but that’s simply false. A vote isn’t required by the Constitution, federal law or the rules of the House of Representatives. The White House is basing its demands for a vote solely on the fact that a similar vote was held by the House during the impeachment proceedings for Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. But in those cases, the votes were necessary to equip the inquiries with additional investigative authority, such as expanded subpoena power; subsequent changes to House rules make that step unnecessary.

From the Democrats’ perspective, there are several reasons not to hold a full floor vote. Most significant, Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to avoid a situation in which the House leadership is conceding that the White House can dictate any of the terms of how an impeachment is conducted, and what sort of process counts as “legitimate.” Once the House makes that concession, the White House will again move the goal posts, undermining Congress’s role as a coequal branch with the authority to manage its impeachment inquiry.

Ms. Pelosi also wants to protect Democratic members who represent more conservative districts from having to take a difficult vote that might come back to haunt them in 2020. This isn’t a very compelling rationale, especially when those same members will almost surely be called upon to vote on articles of impeachment soon enough.

Finally, Ms. Pelosi knows that Mr. Trump has no intention of cooperating with an impeachment inquiry, even if it were authorized by a vote. Instead, he would use what would likely be a party-line vote to further disparage the inquiry as a partisan hit job.

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Reply NYT: Trump wants a fight. Pelosi can hit back. With rules, rigor, and resolution. (Original post)
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SlogginThroughIt Oct 9 #1
pnwmom Oct 9 #2
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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:53 PM

1. Yeah thats about par for NYT

They just want to sell tickets to that fight. Thats all they care about.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:02 PM

2. They are right. What is there in here that you disagree with? n/t

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 12:08 AM

5. Nothing.

There is nothing that I disagree with.... Until tomorrow when they post something ridiculous to keep the back and forth going. I have been less trusting of the NYT lately. I think their reporting has fallen off. When they started hiring climate change deniers is when they jumped the shark for me.

YMMV

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

3. They are right -- and so is Mme Speaker

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Response to Hekate (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:28 PM

4. Thank goodness they were smart enough to keep her as Speaker. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

6. GOPers already say that even with a vote for an inquiry, cooperation would be a "hypothetical"

I say fuck 'em and the hypothetical horse they rode in on.

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