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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:15 AM

Trump's "serious blunder" in Syria will rebuild ISIS

Turkey says it will begin its military offensive into Syria 'shortly'
By Helen Regan, CNN
Updated 7:08 AM ET, Wed October 9, 2019

(CNN)Turkey's military is set to cross into northern Syria "shortly," the Turkish communications director said, as part of an impending offensive to move US-backed Kurdish forces away from its border.

"Turkish military, together with the Free Syrian Army, will cross the Turkish-Syrian border shortly," Fahrettin Altun, the Turkish government communications director tweeted from a verified account in the early hours of Wednesday morning from Istanbul.

The expected offensive comes days after US President Donald Trump provoked a storm of criticism, including within his own party, by announcing that US troops would be pulled back from the border area.

Leaving Syria is ‘knife in the back’ for Kurdish forces, Panetta says
Oct 7, 2019 6:52 PM EDT

In a recent PBS interview, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said:

Well, I think this is a serious foreign policy blunder that is going to undermine United States' leadership and further weaken our role in the world.

I mean, we're putting a knife in the back of the Kurds who basically fought alongside of us in trying to destroy the ISIS caliphate. And, in basically leaving the Kurds vulnerable, we have also opened up the possibility that Syria will go into the hands of Russia, Iran, and that ISIS will further strengthen itself.

So, from every aspect, I consider this to be a very serious blunder on the part of the president.

PBS newscaster Amna Nawaz asked:

Is there a good way to implement this decision? Is there a way to do this in a way that you think doesn't lead to a potential resurgence of ISIS forces or doesn't put our Kurdish allies on the ground at risk?

Well, there's no way to do it, when you basically give up the only leverage you have, which is the presence of U.S. troops in that region.

That's why the president reversed himself when he first made this decision back in December, and he retained our forces there. If our forces are there, then we can negotiate with Turkey, we can negotiate with Syria, we can negotiate with others in terms of how this transition ought to take place.

But once you immediately pull out U.S. forces without that preparation, you're essentially saying you're on your own, and Turkey is given an invitation to basically invade Syria.

Those are consequences that are going to hurt our credibility, the United States' credibility, with allies. We depend on allies. We depended on the Kurds to help us destroy the caliphate. To suddenly leave Syria and say to the Kurds, you're on your own, sends a signal to other allies not to trust the United States.

The complete interview is worth reading:

ISIS considers the USA its primary enemy. Currently, the Kurds are detaining members of the terrorist group. Once they are freed, after Turkish forces destroy the Kurds, which nation do you think suicide bombers of ISIS will infiltrate and attack? Will an attack by ISIS create the "national emergency" Teflon Don keeps attempting to create to increase his power?

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:40 AM

1. Trump cares nothing for nuance or the repercussions of his decisions

If the reports yesterday are to be believed, Trump agreed to a withdrawal of US forces to appease Erdogan and get him off the phone. That doesn't take into account the fact this was probably already worked out with his buddy Putin to ensure a Russian oil pipeline across this region. Trump gave no thought to the deadly impact on the Kurds, "well these have been historic enemies" he says. Trump gave no thought to the resurgence of ISIS, because in his warped mind we've wiped them out. Trump gave no thought to how this instability may be a direct threat Israel. He had no concerns about how this would be viewed by the international community as it showed just how fickle the promise of American support can be. No, he did this to placate his friends and, likely, to benefit himself in some way.

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:44 PM

6. Teflon Don did give these things a "thought"

He continues to think the same way: I'll destroy the USA to get ANY foreign power to help me hack the next election and become Der Führer of the USA then begin my 1,000 year Reich.

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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:48 AM

2. Removing our troops is only half the issue

Trump gave Erdogan the green light to attack, that's the problem here. Trump could have removed our troops, but said to Erdogan that if he attacks there will be dire consequences. Erdogan told Trump he will attack and Trump said, "go right ahead." Removing our troops isn't the real issue.

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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:34 AM

3. Hashish is regularly smuggled into the USA and ISIS terrorists can enter the same way:

Amid war in Syria, hashish business booms
Farmers in Raqqa have found jobs on hashish farms in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley

Beirut: Hashish has always been a powerful weapon of war, giving fighters a sense of invincibility.

High on the drug, they would slaughter, slit throats, dig up graves, and mutilate corpses.

Hashish is now widely on sale in different Syrian cities and towns, including the black market of the capital Damascus.

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:06 AM


Helping ISIS rebuild and strengthen so they can attack USA.

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Response to Peace06 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:42 AM

5. Dubya couldn't find Osama Bin Laden in 8 years...

It took President Obama about two years to not only find the terrorist organizer but also send in a CIA led Seal Team to kill him.

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