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Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:17 PM

OK, Nancy. It is time to start arresting people for contempt.

The trump administration has just sent a letter saying that they are going to violate the Constitution and ignore congressional subpoenas.

Inherent contempt must be charged against everyone who refuses to appear, and they must be thrown in jail.

Do not wait for the courts. If we don't enforce our subpoenas now they will never be worth the paper they're printed on.

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Reply OK, Nancy. It is time to start arresting people for contempt. (Original post)
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:20 PM

1. Also fine these criminals $10K/day (eom)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:25 PM

2. the arsewipes will arrest HRC the next chance they get.. Im all for 10K day fines...

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:27 PM

3. What makes you think they would pay the fines?

The only thing that will work is throwing some asses in jail.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

52. Can't they seize accounts and

garnish wages?

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #52)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

59. They'd have to get a court order

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 01:13 PM

65. How long did it take for Susan McDougal to land in jail for not testifying

and WHO did the arresting???????????????? Why is this not a possibility today?
bility today

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Response to Doitnow (Reply #65)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:33 PM

72. Susan McDougal was jailed by a federal judge at Ken Starr's request

because she refused to testify before a federal grand jury.

Not the same. It's a possibility, but not today since there are processes that have to be gone through before getting to the point of obtaining a court order that could lead to a party being jailed by virtue of defying it.

And, funny thing - many of the same people who want people thrown in jail complain the loudest about Congress taking the steps that could eventually lead to people being put in jail.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:33 PM

6. For what?

She has shown up for her subpoena.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:29 PM

4. That seems to be next step.

We really just got there. We shouldnít hesitate.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:32 PM

5. Since...

Since they are not going to be threatened with being thrown in a moot with snakes and alligators, or with being impaled on sharp stakes, then I guess...

What about that good old-fashioned notion: Arrest? As was pointed out, you can ignore fines, but being arrested?

Otherwise, just buy a ream of paper and some straws and barrage them with spitballs.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:50 PM

87. You are quite right.

Put them in jail and they'll have themselves a come to Jesus moment real fast. Send marshals to get them and keep their lawyers from getting them out. You might find them to be more compliant.

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #87)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:53 PM

88. The House would have to get a court ruling and court order for the marshals to get involved

The U.S. Marshals carry out federal court orders. They don't enforce Congressional subpoenas and the House has no authority or jurisdiction to order them to do anything.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #88)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 07:40 PM

89. Well there goes that idea.

Who could the House get who has the authority to arrest anyone in the country? The FBI? If the House can't get someone arrested for ignoring their subpoena, it's going to be a constitutional crisis like we haven't had since the Civil War. God, how I wish Trump would drop dead from a painful natural cause. He has brought us to this point and makes at worse every day he continues to be above the ground.

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #89)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 07:54 PM

90. The most effective process would be to go to court, get a court order compelling the witness

comply with the subpoena. If they defy the order, they are then in contempt of court and the court can order the U.S. Marshals to detain them.

The Marshals are DOJ employees but they report to and are very loyal to the federal judges they work for and I have no doubt they'd follow the judges' orders, even if Barr tried to interfere.

All of that is in process - one of the reasons the Democrats are taking their time and being very careful is that the courts will expect them to dot their "I"s and cross their "t"s before enforcing the subpoenas.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #90)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:36 PM

94. Thanks for having the patience to explain that.

I hope the Democrats do things right and systematically take these people down, because not taking them down isn't an option.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:39 PM

7. Imagine Giuliani and Barr being taken away in cuffs ...

... one can dream ...

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:35 PM

38. BARR MOST OF ALL, fuck Rudy, he is small beer compared to that fucking traitor Barr

By all means, clap Rudy in irons too, but BARR needs to locked the fuck up. Rump will go BONKERS.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:42 PM

8. I think I'd defer to Pelosi on this because she has proven she knows what she is doing.

Certainly more so than a lot of DUers.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:47 PM

9. We all know that's what would happen if roles were reversed.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:16 PM

32. It would be Susan Mcdougal all over again

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Response to dustyscamp (Reply #32)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:33 PM

36. Not the same

She was mailed by a judge for refusing to testify to a grand jury.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:53 PM

10. Get them

out. Subpoena their asses!!!

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:22 PM

11. Unless there are Consequences;

They won't learn anything.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:24 PM

12. Yep time

to cup up and start playing some hardball

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:26 PM

14. Just for the argument...

What if Pelosi knows that the GOP plan is to overthrow the government, that they want the Dems to make a move like putting people in jail or something extreme so tRump can claim a coup basically projecting their own intent on the Dems. tRump, the administration and the GOP senate call in enforcements, annul the constitution and put Pelosi and Dem house members under arrest. A new government would be in control and there's not much anyone could do about it. In such a case should they still enforce the non-compliance through force?

Just for argument sake...

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Response to Name removed (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:10 PM

28. I'm not sure I go along with the fearless GOP weaker Dem idea.

I'm trying to illustrate that there's possibly more at stake or at least more going on than we can know. There are reasons to push hard and there reasons not to weaponize the GOP. We don't know what's going down.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:37 PM

17. How about if Trump starts arresting Democratic congressional leaders?

He's already accused them of treason, and Barr would do it.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:46 PM

22. Let them try, if that's the ante they want to up to.

Republican lawlessness shouldn't stop the Democrat's legitimate exercise of power, however.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:34 PM

15. Speaker Pelosi surely appreciates and will no doubt comply with these instructions

If for no other reason than none of the information in the OPs and the "Nancy needs to do this or that" responses ever occurred to her, to her committee chairs or to the numerous legal and legislative experts she's consulting and working with every step of the way.

Thank God for DU or else how would poor "Nancy" have any clue what to do next?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:58 PM

25. DU is a veritable treasure trove of ideas.

or not

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:04 AM

49. Correct

And it is. If it weren't it would not have been hacked and shut down on election day in 2016.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:20 PM

83. +1

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:49 PM

63. +1000. (nt)

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:16 PM

67. thanks. at least TRY to keep it real. (nt)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:41 PM

18. there isn't a plan b. Surely they figured this could happen

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:43 PM

19. So you prefer striking with a hammer to turning the screws?

I would like to viscerally see the thumping, but I think that the court of public opinion is more likely to be swayed towards a guilty verdict by a progressively harsher turn of the screws.

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:38 PM

85. Well said.

Public perception is an important factor in all of this.

It is the primary reason that I disagree with those who wish to see a scenario where Speaker Pelosi assumes the presidency. Much as I would love to see her as our first female president I think that the optics would underline their accusations that this is all an attempt to overthrow an election.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:43 PM

20. My question is who would do it?

The DOJ has all the federal law enforcement folks.

And all the federal jails. Without DOJ cooperation where would the arrested folks be kept assuming there is someone to arrest them?

Same with fines. Who is going to enforce/collect them? Maybe Iím missing something.

Yeah, I know it was done like 100 years ago. But canít see how that works now.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:22 PM

68. don't bother me with details!

can't you see I busy with a rant here?

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:20 PM

93. It worked that way for Holder

When he ignored a Congressional Subpoena the DoJ he ran investigated and cleared him, the same thing will happen here with Barr clearing everyone referred over this.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:49 PM

23. Does Pelosi know all the power the house has and the Sgt of Arms?

Just asking.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:14 PM

31. I think she does and that is why she is not overplaying her hand

The HSAA is one third of the Capitol police Board. The other members are the Senate SAA ( Republicans appointment) and the Architect of the Capitol who is currently an Acting as the Architect resigned.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:34 PM

37. I think she does - probably better than you or anyone else here

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:07 AM

50. Anyone else?

Do you know who everyone here is?

on edit: or who reads here who are not members?

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Response to Cetacea (Reply #50)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:13 AM

54. Yes, anyone else

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #54)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:24 AM

55. I would certainly hope so

I have tremendous respect for her. I also have tremendous respect for DU.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #54)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:28 PM

71. No kidding.

I mean, maybe if some former Speaker of the House is on DU, then they would be equal. Maybe. Or perhaps Tribe or similar Constitutional scholar might know as much, but I wouldn't bet on it. And I doubt they are on here. Talk about Dunning Kruger.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:51 PM

24. I read the jail cell they allegedly have doesn't even exist.

This would be in the courts fast if she does it. It sounds great but I'm just not sure it's the panacea we think it will be. It seems uncertain, or at the least untested.

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:27 PM

70. more bluntly, it's tinfoil hat stuff. but thanks. (nt)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:59 PM

26. String Trump along blow by blow

as he tries to overturn the Constitution with bluster.

Meanwhile, just assemble the Articles of Impeachment - obstruction especially - and do the deed!

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Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:32 PM

35. That's total nonsense

Rule of Law will trounce Trump's bluster every time.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:11 PM

29. In the last 40 year the fascist have gained control of 2/3rds of the states, 70% of the Federal

courts, 100% of the justice department and control 2/3rd s of the Federal government. What I'm saying is they can do ANYTHING they want and get away with it.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:39 PM

39. + 1,000,000

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:42 PM

40. Either we are a nation of laws

Or we aren't. The repukes do not get to have it both ways. Lock their butts up. Fines won't work. Their blind supporters will just raise money to pay the fines.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:44 PM

41. I understand the frustration but how does Speaker Pelosi arrest someone?

There is no reason to believe the House Sergeant-at-Arms or Capitol Police have any authority beyond the Capitol grounds. If Trump's minions do not appear in the Capitol, they are beyond the Capitol Police bailiwick. I do not find in the Constitution where the Speaker can issue an arrest warrant against administration officials. If such a warrant is issued, I do not believe the US Marshall's Service would execute it.

The usual course is for the DoJ to ask a federal court to order that a Congressional subpoena be honored. Of course, that isn't going to happen.

The harder path is for the Speaker to petition a federal court to order that a Congressional subpoena be honored. The DoJ will resist any such motion. I hope the Courts would expedite the matter but that means it will take weeks instead of months.

Now to be a real contrarian, I think that the delay is just fine. I think Trump is making a strategic error by stonewalling. If the House can do an expeditious investigation and pass articles of impeachment, the Senate will dispose of it quickly. However, if it takes months to complete an inquiry, the House vote will be close enough to the 2020 election that it will be the primary subject of the election. I think it all should be done by the book. This is all about the rule of law.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #41)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:56 PM

42. Aye. About the only thing she could do would be to use the power of the purse

to compel compliance.
Such as cutting the funding to the White House the bare minimum so all the housekeeping staff and groundskeepers are sent home.
Also cutting secret service budget in regards to funding for transportation for Trump anywhere and not to mention funding for the secret service to travel anywhere with him.
Furthermore restricting him from using the military to do all that by making it clear that if they do their budget will get cut by 1/5th to 2/5th total for the next fiscal year.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:00 PM

43. Yeah but,

Any change in the appropriations for the White House, Secret Service, Department of State, etc., would require the approval of the Senate - and that ain't gonna happen. The House could attempt to punish the administration in the next fiscal year but that would also require Senate agreement. If the House and Senate cannot agree, there is a government shutdown - and that ain't pretty.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #43)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:05 PM

44. Of course they would not approve however Pelosi

could use it as a weapon against them in the upcoming elections should they refuse so either way it's a win.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #44)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:09 PM

45. Agreed.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:10 PM

46. I'm sure she will get right on it

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Response to Skittles (Reply #46)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:49 PM

64. Has she been deputized? (nt)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:20 PM

47. Throw them in jail.

Accountability does not work unless you hold someone to account for their actions. Jail time is warranted for explicit contempt for the law.

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Response to warmfeet (Reply #47)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:05 PM

48. Whose going to arrest them? Where will they be jailed?

In the cloak room?

It sounds fun. But the reality intrudes.

The congress had no law enforcement powers.

Even a fine. Whose going to collect?

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:58 AM

51. Subpoena one of the kids, if they don't show up, to jail they go.

He would lose his mind.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

53. For future reference, please write all these suggestions down for the day we regain the Senate

Statutes should be drafted that call for immediate suspension or dismissal from government office or service for failure to respond to a legal subpeona and disqualification from future federal employment. This is critical. Federal officials cannot be allowed to lie or conceal evidence from Congress. Failure to do so makes us the worst sort of kleptocracy.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:33 AM

56. Doing that requires DOJ - and Barr is the head of the DOJ. So... (nt)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:38 AM

57. I'll stick with Nancy Pelosi who is smarter than the second guessers here.

It's easy to be all knowing on a message board.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

58. Many years ago, I had a friend...

... who mused "What would happen if I just went into a store and started taking things off the shelves?"
If he's still alive, he has his answer.

-- Mal

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:46 PM

60. I believe that what tRump and the rethugs are hoping is that Pelosi will proceed immediately

to Impeachment, skipping the subpoenas, inevitable fines and possible arrest by the Sargent at Arms of the House. I'd like to believe that they want to create a media frenzy and would whip up the orange assclown's *base*, but they realize that will probably anger more voters and harden them against tRump if they do it. McConnell has made it clear that he will bring the matter immediately to the Senate for *trial*, whereupon they will all vote STAT to let him go with blessings to sin again (and again, and again ad nauseum).

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:47 PM

61. I didn't know she had been deputized.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:48 PM

62. How many have defied subpoenas so far? Nt

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 01:24 PM

66. The Hollywood 10

weíre arrested for contempt of Congress and spent up to a year in jail. I donít understand why the rules do not hold up today

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Response to Ghost of Tom Joad (Reply #66)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:26 PM

69. They were prosecuted for Contempt of Congress by the U.S Department of Justice and convicted in cour

They weren't jailed by Congress.

Congress cited them for contempt and then referred to citations to DOJ for prosecution. Good luck with that happening here.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:24 PM

73. I think they should impeach Barr for not performing his duties and get him out, and deal with

the assistant attorney general. This would set an example of what happens when you ignore subpoenas.

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #73)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:26 PM

74. How do you propose they "get him out"?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #74)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:29 PM

75. Impeach him in the house and have a trial in the senate. Anybody in the senate who believes

the attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of the US, has a right to ignore subpoenas and that is not a derilection of duty does not believe in the rule of law and should not be a sitting senator.

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #75)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:30 PM

76. In Judge Beryl Howell's words: Wow. Ok

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #76)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:33 PM

77. I don't know what that means. Are you saying they cannot impeach him, or that the senate would not

convict. The senators are jurors. I cannot believe that as a sitting juror, they would find his behavior acceptable.

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #77)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:40 PM

78. 2/3 of the Senate is required to convict him and remove him

With 53 Republican Senators, that will not happen.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #78)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:50 PM

79. Well it would sure be nice to have them on the record saying that the Attorney general can avoid

charging criminal referrals or honoring subpoenas. I am not sure they would say that out loud. They may not get 2/3, but I think they would get some republicans that still may have a trace of honor left.

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #79)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:03 PM

80. I'd prefer the House focus on one impeachment at a time

Trying to impeach Barr or any other cabinet member at this point to "put Republicans on the record" is not a good use of their time. They already have their hands full. And Republicans are already on the record. They've tethered themselves to Trump and his administration for all the world to see.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #80)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:06 PM

81. I understand that, but if they got rid of Barr they might be able to get criminal referrals through

the DOJ for contempt regarding the subpoenas; however, I agree, the process would probably take too much time. They are all scum.

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:08 PM

82. They're not going to get rid of Barr

And even if they did, Trump would just nominate and the Senate would confirm his replacement.

Back to square one...

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:45 PM

84. And hurry.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:19 PM

86. "Starting arresting people for contempt." By what method do you propose Pelosi do that?

Regarding Attorney General Eric Holder refusal to obey a subpoena and being cited for contempt:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/12/past_attorney_general_went_unpunished_for_contempt_140307.html
""Congress can't enforce their own contempt charges; all they can do is give notice to the attorney general that they would like it enforced, and Eric Holder never enforced it against himself," observed Mark Harkins, a senior fellow at the Georgetown University Government Affairs Institute. Harkins doesn't expect Barr to charge himself, either."

Reality sucks, doesn't it?

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:14 PM

91. What about cutting off salaries?

Doesn't the House control the purse strings?

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #91)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:19 PM

92. No. That's a myth

Spending bills originate in the House, but they don't become law until passed by both chambers and signed by the president and spending rescissions must go through the same process. The House can't unilaterally cut off appropriated spending.

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