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Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:11 PM

I want you to really think about this. Today is the day the American Century effectively ended.

Trump has withdrawn the US from more international treaties than I care to remember.

He has backed out of multilateral economic treaties, promising to replace them with bilateral treaties, except that did not happen. Other countries have formed economic treaties amongst each other, excluding the US.
e.g. the EU and Japan have formed a landmark trade-treaty that simply wouldn't have happened without Trump.

He has withdrawn the US from environmental treaties.

He has started a trade-war with the most important trading-partner of the US.
China.

He has broken a nuclear arms treaty. To repeat: THE US HAS WILLFULLY BROKEN A NUCLEAR ARMS TREATY AND DOESN'T EVEN PRETEND TO HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
Iran.

Today, he has betrayed and backstabbed a military ally of the US.
The Kurds.

Today, he has threatened another military ally of the US.
Turkey.

He has singlehandedly and without any reason sabotaged the israeli peace-process.
The Palestinians.

He has shown that the US is corrupt and can be bribed and bought.
Trump Hotels and Mar-a-Lago.

He has shown that the US will politicize intelligence of other countries for the benefit of the corrupt few.
Ukraine.

He has shown that the US will blackmail other countries for economic favors to the corrupt few.
Again Ukraine.

He has played right into chinese propaganda that democracy means chaos and instability.

He has played right into russian propaganda that the US is a country of racism, injustice and corruption and that the era of the US as the leader of the free world must therefore end.



How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as a reliable partner in terms of trade?
How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as a reliable partner in terms of military cooperation?
How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as a reliable partner in terms of intelligence?
How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as an impartial arbiter between other countries?
How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as a nation not simply of laws but also of morals and ethics?
How long will it take until the other countries think of the US as a country that can be looked up to in the fight against corruption?

How long will it take until the other countries stop discarding the american ideals of freedom, equality, democracy, liberalism and rights as the embarassing propaganda of an obviously corrupt empire?






















Do you have any idea, do you even realize, how much Trump has truly destroyed?

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Reply I want you to really think about this. Today is the day the American Century effectively ended. (Original post)
DetlefK Oct 2019 OP
pwb Oct 2019 #1
MuseRider Oct 2019 #2
roamer65 Oct 2019 #3
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #20
Newest Reality Oct 2019 #4
FirstLight Oct 2019 #5
ancianita Oct 2019 #6
Doreen Oct 2019 #7
renate Oct 2019 #8
Traildogbob Oct 2019 #12
durablend Oct 2019 #18
orangecrush Oct 2019 #9
Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #10
amb123 Oct 2019 #11
ffr Oct 2019 #13
Karadeniz Oct 2019 #14
Martin Eden Oct 2019 #15
BadgerMom Oct 2019 #16
lunatica Oct 2019 #17
bronxiteforever Oct 2019 #19

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:15 PM

1. The world against us ??

And its over.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:16 PM

2. I don't figure I will

live long enough to see that get better. At a time when the planet is reeling and we are not at all prepared for what is coming this seems like a very bad time to go it alone. What a damned shame he has been allowed to do this.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:18 PM

3. WW3 isn't far off.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:11 PM

20. we're soaking in it and losing it

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:27 PM

4. Yes

He is destructive, especially when he does not get what he wants for himself.

While we tally up the damage, it is now situation where one can calmly consider something new for America: a truly rogue President.

Since we are awaiting impeachment and/or an election, there is an uncomfortable amount of time, a window, for him to act.

I am not at all in any kind of panic, but this is getting to be unprecedented territory for me and the country, as well.

What's next? That's the big concern. I can't imagine Trump backing down or changing course right now.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:33 PM

5. ...

I agree, on all points made above & in the OP


This "man" has been the lynchpin for the undoing of our Nation & Constitution..and let's not forget he has an entire party that refuses to hold him accountable. He is a dangerous child and I fear for us domestically as much as I weep for the BS he's made possible overseas...

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:41 PM

6. What Trump has destroyed, Putin has ordered.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:21 PM

7. It will be a very long time if ever

when this country can repair the horrible things MOFO has done to it and this world.

I actually cried the day Merkel said "The U.S is no longer a reliable ally." I knew other countries would soon follow that position.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:41 PM

8. I do think other countries will trust us again once Trump/Pence are gone

It's to their advantage to do so, after all.

But the world has seen that they can get along without us "leading" the free world. We'll just be any other country. Which is fine, but yes, I think you're right--the American Century has ended.

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Response to renate (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:08 PM

12. Only if our checks and balances do their job.....

And expell/prosecute the whole damn criminal regime. Otherwise there will never be any faith in democracy. Greed and corruption is way to powerful. It has destroyed so many nations, it will destroy the planet. We are speeding toward that end.

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Response to renate (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:52 PM

18. They have no reason to

Knowing that in another four years we could elect another idiot.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:56 PM

9. KICK

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:57 PM

10. The answer to the bolded questions,

is when the cell doors close on Trump and his gang.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:00 PM

11. The great enemy of WW1 was Germany

The great enemies of WW2 were Germany & Japan.

The way things are going now, the great enemy of WW3 will be the United States!

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:09 PM

13. K&R

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:18 PM

14. I know. Bastard.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:23 PM

15. I was never on board with the Project for the New American Century

PNAC got us into this mess in the first place.

Having said that, leaving our Kurdish partners to the tender mercies of Erdogan is wrong on many levels.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:27 PM

16. I think I do.

That’s what drives my rage and my melancholia.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:29 PM

17. We're going to have to deploy triage actions when he leaves

We’ll have choose what we need to reverse first and what we’ll have to let go of.

I do hope Nancy Pelosi is keeping a list. She may be forced to be President for a while. She’s going to have to freeze and reverse hundreds of Trump’s actions, both nationally to internationally. She’s going to have to do it in executive orders so the Senate can’t stop her.

What a mess!

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:04 PM

19. Kick and recommend. I thought the same thing today.

You said it better.

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