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Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:57 AM

TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES S

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fawning-vladimir-putin-authoritarians-embarrassing-phone-calls-1463352

TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES SAY—REPORT

As the spotlight on President Donald Trump's interactions with foreign leaders intensifies, former and current White House officials have described Trump's interactions with strongman leaders as fawning, deferential and embarrassing, with many of those in the administration "horrified" at his conduct.

The Washington Post spoke with 12 current and former White House officials who said that members of the administration were shocked at the president's behavior during conversations with authoritarians like Russian President Vladimir Putin and members of the Saudi royal family.


"There was a constant undercurrent in the Trump administration of [senior staff] who were genuinely horrified by the things they saw that were happening on these calls," one former White House official—who spoke on the condition of anonymity—told the Post.

"Phone calls that were embarrassing, huge mistakes he made, months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet," the official added.



Aides were particularly concerned about Trump's calls with Putin. The first call came less than two weeks into the presidency on January 28, 2017.

The call was intended for Putin to congratulate Trump on his victory, but the new president was "obsequious" and "fawning," even apologizing to the dictator for not calling him sooner, anonymous former White House aides told the Post.

"He was like, 'Oh my gosh, my people didn't tell me you wanted to talk to me,'" according to one person with direct knowledge of the call. And in another Putin call, Trump is said to have asked his Russian counterpart for advice on how to deal with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.


"We couldn't figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia," a former senior administration official added.

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Reply TRUMP 'FAWNING' TO PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS IN 'EMBARRASSING' PHONE CALLS, WHITE HOUSE AIDES S (Original post)
Demovictory9 Oct 5 OP
Newest Reality Oct 5 #1
COLGATE4 Oct 5 #2
ananda Oct 5 #3
flibbitygiblets Oct 5 #13
zentrum Oct 5 #25
bullwinkle428 Oct 5 #4
Demovictory9 Oct 5 #6
tanyev Oct 5 #5
Perseus Oct 5 #7
pangaia Oct 5 #18
Python boot Oct 5 #8
Farmer-Rick Oct 5 #16
machoneman Oct 5 #22
Historic NY Oct 5 #9
NJCher Oct 5 #27
ooky Oct 5 #10
abqtommy Oct 5 #11
superpatriotman Oct 5 #12
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Martin Eden Oct 5 #15
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dlk Oct 5 #34
Dirty Socialist Oct 5 #35
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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:05 AM

1. That supports the suspicions

Tin pot dictator wannabe wants to emulate billionaire, authoritarian Oligarch.

Maybe very jelly, too?

He has a great role model. Now, how long before he pulls it off? As long as he is in office, this is a concern. How long can he viciously kick America in the teeth before it is completely toothless? The blood is dripping and spattered all over.

Our Dunning-Kruger poster boy is a mental midget, (obviously) except for his by rote manipulation tactics. Putin, for instance, has a law degree and was an Intelligence officer for sixteen years. Who's the potential patsy here, as well?

This is the test and the time of great consequence! We have a country and a Constitution to protect and it is seriously threatened from within and without. Take heed.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:15 AM

2. It's like trying to have a serious conversation

with a not-too-bright, totally spoiled 8 year old.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:32 AM

3. And yet what does it say about them?

That they worked for him.

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Response to ananda (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:48 AM

13. and are only coming forward NOW. Three years this has been happening for God's sake.

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Response to ananda (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:59 AM

25. Exactly. They stayed too long.

They didn't whistle blow when it could have helped.

They colluded by silence.

They're disgusting, part of the problem.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:32 AM

4. So let me get this straight. You're telling me that his private behavior is

EXACTLY LIKE his public behavior???

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:38 AM

6. lol

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:35 AM

5. I had a boss like that once.

I was still in early stages of employment with him, so I hadn’t yet seen his full Trumpian aspects, but he was always complaining about the guy he reported to, who was in another building. This man was supposedly an unreasonable jerk who wouldn’t let my boss do any of the things he needed to do.

One day he took me along to one of their meetings so I could see for myself. I watched in astonishment as my boss turned into a completely different person. He was nervous, obsequious, and sat in a chair clear on the other side of the office that could have easily been moved closer. I got the chair closer to the “monster’s” desk, who seemed like a very pleasant, competent person. It was odd.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:39 AM

7. "We couldn't figure out why he was so nice to Putin"???? What planet do these people come from?

If you live in planet Earth you know why he fawns at Putin, but if you live in Mars and just came in to join the corruption then I can understand why you would not know. Another question is, once you understood why he fawns at Putin, why did you stay, why didn't you come out and tell the World what is happening?

It drives me nuts to hear people on TV say "I understand why so and so would not want to come out in public because he/she is in a blue/purple state where he/she may lose votes.", or "because they could lose their jobs"...Are you kidding me? You are putting a senate or congress sit, or a lousy job in the WH where you are most probably miserable witnessing all the horrendous things republicans are doing to the country and the World instead of being a real patriot and coming out and exposing them? What is wrong with everyone where a sit or a job are more important than your country, your future,that of next generations?

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Response to Perseus (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:14 AM

18. fuck republicans, That's about all I can say.

We know there are assholes like this all over the world. But, when we 'discover' them here, we're surprised..

NOT !!


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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:16 AM

8. Suck ups

Prior to the public embarrassment known as the Helsinki Summit, several repug senators went to Moscow to meet with foreign minister Lavrov on July 3, 2018. Senators Shelby, Kennedy, Thune, Johnson and others all felt a need to spend the Fourth of July in Russia. All Repubs are guilty of sucking up to russia.

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Response to Python boot (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:02 AM

16. Yeah, that was amazing watching those RepubliCON Senators go pay homage to Russia

On our country's b-day. I couldn't believe RepubliCON voters didn't object. It was so obvious that little man Putin arranged it to rubb in his control over them.

And no RepubliCON seemed to care. It was dumbfounding.

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Response to Python boot (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:37 AM

22. It was to collect in person a few million rubles each! Tax evasion, no paper trail, big suitcases.

I would not doubt it.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:35 AM

9. Trump the giddy schoolgirl.

swoons over beau Vlad.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:05 PM

27. English teacher here

loves the imagery.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:39 AM

10. I don't know how this behavior from Trump should "shock" anyone.

I've come to expect it. He fawned to Putin in Helsinki on TV cameras in front of the whole world.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:45 AM

11. Subpoena the server!

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:46 AM

12. It's called 'networking '

Among the 1%

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:51 AM

14. "months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet," -- worst pres ever

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:53 AM

15. How would Republicans have reacted if Obama behaved like Trump?

Hell, they demonized Obama regardless what he did or said.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:14 AM

17. "The White House staff", as elegantly described by Lunatica:

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:17 AM

19. "We couldn't figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia."

Really? You really couldn't figure that out? Did you hibernate through 2015 and 2016?

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:25 AM

20. Trump is like one of those fuckups who are attracted to serial killers on Death Row.

He even writes love letter to Putin and Kim Jong-un

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:29 AM

21. Revealing Benedict Donald

Guy punches down and kisses up.

His obsequiousness toward Vladimir shows who’s his boss.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:55 AM

23. Demand that TT Moscow Letter of Intent be Rescinded ASAP!

This will spotlight that there was, and still is, a Letter Of Intent signed during the Spring of 2016 and assumed to be and still open LOI between Trump and rusky developers for Trump Tower Moscow. One reason Cohen is in jail is that he lied about talks going up through June 2016. Some say talks went even later.

There is no known record to cancel this project or effort by POTUS to rescind it so Congress must demand that submit a letter cancelling this project. Trump is basically holding a draft contract for TT Moscow with Pukin getting his own floor among the rusky oligarchs that financed "meddling" and targeted psycho-graphic ads through Fake Book users during our elections of 2016.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:58 AM

24. he's like a little toady............

who sucks up to the bullies, gets them snacks and doesn't even realize that they are laughing at him, not with him

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:00 PM

26. They were just talking about this on "AM Joy."

Dear God what a mess.

I don’t envy the Democratic president who has to come in and start cleaning this up.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:06 PM

28. Disgusting. When I read about this, I wanted to throw up. What a disgusting, vile, pathetic, ...

and ignorant human being (rump). I'd like to copy this damn 'fawning' article and send it to every single 'fawning' republican senator for the next 1+ year, until we take the office in 2020 November (and the Senate too).

Pardon me while I throw up. Disgusting.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:07 PM

29. Remember that pic of...

...Putin and the Saudi "prince" high fiving each other with giddy grins ?

While the Orange Man Baby watches them from across the room,
looking like a neglected puppy dog ?

This is a most shameful and embarrassing time for our Country.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:09 PM

30. Good gosh!

We’re gonna need a Congressional Commission to study these Fuggerz. Trump is the showman they push onto the stage every day. The puppet masters behind the curtains are the real evil here.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:18 PM

31. One thing we know for sure...

is that Obama was never a patsy for Putin. Trump even has the nerve to say that Putin played Obama. lol. Putin knew he couldn't play Obama on his worse day. Putin does know that Trump is HIS patsy through and through. Imagine what he says about Trump to his staff.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:30 PM

32. I feel like we knew this at the time.

Maybe more details now, certainly about locking up the transcript.

But the tone of the calls I feel like we knew already.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:44 PM

33. It's incredibly discouraging to know 40-50%? of U.S. are totally fine with all this.

I can't even handle C-Span Washington Journal anymore. The stupid just burns. The dumbing down of America has happened. It's like Carlin said: "The real owners" want people just smart enough to run the machines. They do not want them capable of critical thinking and sitting around the kitchen table talking the system that threw them overboard 30 f'in years ago or about the big, red white and blue dick being jammed up their a-hole every day. God I miss him. He nailed it 30 years ago.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:15 PM

34. Imagine what Trump does with Putin when they are alone

Could Republicans have come up with a worse dirtbag?

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:27 PM

35. A trump humper I know

Says this means Trump isn't a wimpy politician. This is a reason Trump is so popular. I. Kid. You. Not.

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #35)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:31 PM

36. If anybody besides Trump behaved like that

This same Trumpster would be trotting out words like "cuck" or "soy boy"

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