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Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:24 PM

Trump's calls with foreign leaders have long worried aides, leaving some 'genuinely horrified'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-have-long-worried-aides-leaving-some-genuinely-horrified/2019/10/04/537cc7a8-e602-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html

By Carol D. Leonnig, Shane Harris and Josh Dawsey

Oct. 4, 2019 at 7:19 p.m. EDT

In one of his first calls with a head of state, President Trump fawned over Russian President Vladimir Putin, telling the man who ordered interference in America’s 2016 election that he was a great leader and apologizing profusely for not calling him sooner.

He pledged to Saudi officials in another call that he would help the monarchy enter the elite Group of Seven, an alliance of the world’s leading democratic economies.

He promised the president of Peru that he would deliver to his country a C-130 military cargo plane overnight, a logistical nightmare that set off a herculean scramble in the West Wing and Pentagon.

And in a later call with Putin, Trump asked the former KGB officer for his guidance in forging a friendship with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un — a fellow authoritarian hostile to the United States.

Starting long before revelations about Trump’s interactions with Ukraine’s president rocked Washington, Trump’s phone calls with foreign leaders were an anxiety-ridden set of events for his aides and members of the administration, according to former and current officials. They worried that Trump would make promises he shouldn’t keep, endorse policies the United States long opposed, commit a diplomatic blunder that jeopardized a critical alliance, or simply pressure a counterpart for a personal favor.

“There was a constant undercurrent in the Trump administration of [senior staff] who were genuinely horrified by the things they saw that were happening on these calls,” said one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private conversations. “Phone calls that were embarrassing, huge mistakes he made, months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet.”

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Reply Trump's calls with foreign leaders have long worried aides, leaving some 'genuinely horrified' (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Oct 4 OP
Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 4 #1
WinstonSmith4740 Oct 5 #15
PragmaticLiberal Oct 4 #2
struggle4progress Oct 4 #3
Zaphod42 Oct 4 #4
Leghorn21 Oct 4 #5
ffr Oct 4 #6
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Marie Marie Oct 4 #8
iluvtennis Oct 4 #9
H2O Man Oct 4 #10
Collimator Oct 4 #11
littlemissmartypants Oct 4 #12
yardwork Oct 4 #13
Pepsidog Oct 4 #14
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 5 #16

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:28 PM

1. Well, fuck these people. And while I'm at it, fuck the cartoon ass press in this country. Who

will no doubt plaster this collection of assholes all over the airwaves, touting them as normal humans. Even experts, after this fucking nightmare finally comes to an end.

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:26 AM

15. Yep.

I have zero tolerance for all these hand wringers that are coming out of the shadows. They knew who this guy was when they signed on. There's no excuses.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:29 PM

2. Lordy.....

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:31 PM

3. "I was horrified, of course. but party loyalty matters more than conscience"

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:20 PM

4. Absolutely no telling

what manner of verbal masturbation has emanated from the mouth of Agent Orange during such calls. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during all of them!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:25 PM

5. Ewww, he's lickin Putin/MBS toes while his aides are lickin his

Ewwwww, and

fuck you all, the whole sorry lot of ya

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:40 PM

6. Sounds like people in the administration see the green light.

Leak. Be outspoken. The times have found them.

What a time to be alive, to be a part of all those who would proudly choose to defend their republic over an autocracy or monarchy.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:41 PM

7. Kick

The first call Trump made that set off alarm bells came less than two weeks after his inauguration. On Jan. 28, Trump called Putin for what should have been a routine formality: accepting a foreign leader’s congratulations. Former White House officials described Trump as “obsequious” and “fawning,” but said he also rambled off into different topics without any clear point, while Putin appeared to stick to formal talking points for a first official exchange.

“He was like, ‘Oh my gosh, my people didn’t tell me you wanted to talk to me,’ ” said one person with direct knowledge of the call.

“We couldn’t figure out early on why he was being so nice to Russia,” one former senior administration official said. H.R. McMaster, the president’s then-national security adviser, launched an internal campaign to get Trump to be more skeptical of the Russians. Officials expressed surprise in both of his early Putin calls at why he was so friendly.

In another call, in April 2017, Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, who had overseen a brutal campaign that has resulted in the extrajudicial killings of thousands of suspected drug dealers, that he was doing an “unbelievable job on the drug problem.”

Trump’s personal goals seeped into calls. He pestered Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for help in recommending him for a Nobel Prize, according to an official familiar with the call.

In a summer 2018 call with Prime Minister Theresa May, Trump harangued the British leader about her country’s contribution to NATO. He then disputed her intelligence community’s conclusion that Putin’s government had orchestrated the attempted murder and poisoning of a former Russian spy on British soil.

“Trump was totally bought into the idea there was credible doubt about the poisoning,” said one person briefed on the call. “A solid 10 minutes of the conversation is spent with May saying it’s highly likely and him saying he’s not sure.”

Trump would sometimes make commitments to foreign leaders that flew in the face of U.S. policy and international agreements, as when he told a Saudi royal that he would support their country’s entry into the G-7.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:05 PM

8. I think that even though we all suspected this, it is still horrifying.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:12 PM

9. SMDH.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:13 PM

10. Recommended.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:34 PM

11. Quelle suprise (Not)

"They worried that Trump would make promises he shouldn’t keep, endorse policies the United States long opposed, commit a diplomatic blunder that jeopardized a critical alliance, or simply pressure a counterpart for a personal favor."

"[O]ne former White House official, [. .] spoke [about ]“ 'Phone calls that were embarrassing, huge mistakes he [Trump] made, months and months of work that were upended by one impulsive tweet. ' ”

That all sounds about what anyone with half a brain and an ounce of deductive reasoning could have expected when the man was installed as president.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:35 PM

12. The almost absolute absence of decency and high moral fibre expressed here

is nauseating. It's been an colossal disappointment, but very educational. However, it's an education I would rather have avoided.

Kicked and recommended.

Thanks Dennis Donovan, for sharing this.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:37 PM

13. We've known about this from the beginning of his administration. Why didn't the media care?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:41 PM

14. It's Fox wacko foreign policy.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:21 PM

16. The asshole has no shame

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