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ffr

(22,669 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:54 PM Oct 2019

Seth Abramson laying IG's message out right now





1/ Raskin is now showing reporters the packet of misinformation the Department of State IG brought to Congress. It appears—if I understand correctly—the IG was trying to warn eight Congressional committees that Pompeo and the White House are deliberately spreading misinformation.
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Seth Abramson laying IG's message out right now (Original Post) ffr Oct 2019 OP
This is exactly what I thought. Thanks for the clarity. Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #1
I think it is a good thing if some high level employees are rethinking what they have seen and hlthe2b Oct 2019 #2
Good point. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #3
Trump will dismiss this as the deep state attempting to depose the King. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #4
Who cares about what he thinks and does now, besides more impeachable offenses. Perseus Oct 2019 #19
Respectfully disagree. His base would follow him to the gates of hell and blame fake news. Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #30
I agree. I have given up any hope of "reaching out" to his mindless base. Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #37
Hot potato gratuitous Oct 2019 #5
It's not the same IG. It's the State Dept IG, not the CIA IG. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #11
But the State Dept IG undoubtedly saw what's happened elsewhere. calimary Oct 2019 #22
Sounds like a big packet of ratfuckery C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #6
Trump hotel folders? captain queeg Oct 2019 #7
Not really DENVERPOPS Oct 2019 #25
Today's word is "obstruction." O-B-S-T-R-U-C-T-I-O-N. "Obstruction" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #8
Good one! MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #26
Desidario just posted: Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #9
Pretty damning, but I bet it goes beyond this as well. triron Oct 2019 #18
K&R... spanone Oct 2019 #10
The WH spread Ukraine notes to Pompeo ritapria Oct 2019 #12
Sounds like a Devin NUNES operation UTUSN Oct 2019 #13
so basically he supplied dweller Oct 2019 #14
By misinformation, he means talking points. rainin Oct 2019 #15
KICK orangecrush Oct 2019 #16
As John Flannery says, this 'administration' is a criminal enterprise. triron Oct 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #32
The Mueller summary by Barr...the incomplete transcript of Ukraine call... SayItLoud Oct 2019 #20
Holy shit The Liberal Lion Oct 2019 #23
Spreading misinformation is manufacturing their own version of FAKE NEWS bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #24
You got THAT right!!!! MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #27
Of course... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #29
Others have labeled it: projection is confession /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #31
small taste of what it looks like when the most powerful office in the world is corrupted. nt wiggs Oct 2019 #28
Chris Hayes just said that noun/verb/9/11 told CNN malaise Oct 2019 #33
Abramson should know -- deliberate misinformation is disinformation Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #35

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. I think it is a good thing if some high level employees are rethinking what they have seen and
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:58 PM
Oct 2019

trying to be proactive... Even if it doesn't pan out as "new" it shows they are cooperating as they all should be.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. Who cares about what he thinks and does now, besides more impeachable offenses.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:57 PM
Oct 2019

He can say and do whatever he wants, I think that even his base is now accepting that the guy is a crook and a liar.

He is so stupid that one or maybe two out of ten of the things he says or does from now on will just add up to his list of crimes and misdemeanors, so let him talk, let him do.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
21. Respectfully disagree. His base would follow him to the gates of hell and blame fake news.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:06 PM
Oct 2019

You're talking millions who don't ever listen to what we do. They drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago, and Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. reinforce it 24/7/365. I don't know if they are reachable even while impeachment proceeds, let alone after. It's the librul left and Clinton/Obama's fault that this is happening to their swamp-drainer (fantasy land for sure).

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Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
36. I agree. I have given up any hope of "reaching out" to his mindless base.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:06 PM
Oct 2019

But we live next door or down the road from them. They are not going away from the US of A. I don't know how you deal with them.

Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #36)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Hot potato
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:13 PM
Oct 2019

The Inspector General got burned by the administration's slow walk of the whistleblower complaint. Looks like they've decided that checking with the White House or the Attorney General before forwarding something on to the proper congressional committees isn't a wise course of action.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
22. But the State Dept IG undoubtedly saw what's happened elsewhere.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:06 PM
Oct 2019

And just maybe it made an extra impression. Particularly if f you don’t want to “get any on you.”

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
6. Sounds like a big packet of ratfuckery
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:18 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Real winners don't need to cheat and lie - like these Trumpzoids do.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
25. Not really
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:22 PM
Oct 2019

Not really, it lets them all know that it comes straight from the top in order to keep them all in line.......

In a way, that would be like Jury tampering.........

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. Desidario just posted:
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:36 PM
Oct 2019
STORY: State Dept IG briefed Hill aides about an
apparent attempt to smear a senior U.S. diplomat
seen by Dems as a key fact witness in their impeachment
inquiry. The documents contain misinformation &
debunked conspiracy theories about Hunter Biden, too.




 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
12. The WH spread Ukraine notes to Pompeo
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:43 PM
Oct 2019

Notes derived from Guiliani meetings involving debunked Ukraine Conspiracy Theories and the smearing of a senior US diplomat..... … Does the IG have proof Pompeo and WH.. are knowingly spreading this horse Manure ?... And if so, to whom ? Frankly, I'm a little disappointed …..I hope they can directly tie the production and spreading of the notes to Trump ….. It's all about getting the lunatic out of the WH

dweller

(23,628 posts)
14. so basically he supplied
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:03 PM
Oct 2019

a heads up to the next CT coming from the flailing WH Dumbers,
and cutting them off at the knees, no make that the ankles...
check that, hanging them by the ankles if they float that CT 🤔

wonder if someone has the foresight to let Hair Twitler know before he twitstorms in a fresh rage ?

✌🏼

rainin

(3,011 posts)
15. By misinformation, he means talking points.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:39 PM
Oct 2019

Trump always uses his pulpit to communicate talking points. It sounds like whining or self-pity, but he's broadcasting a communication strategy. This is why, IMO, he tweets constantly. He's keeping his army in line.

triron

(21,999 posts)
17. As John Flannery says, this 'administration' is a criminal enterprise.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019

Media doesn't get it yet but they're getting there.

Response to triron (Reply #17)

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
20. The Mueller summary by Barr...the incomplete transcript of Ukraine call...
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:00 PM
Oct 2019

Nothing new here. #VoteBlue

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
24. Spreading misinformation is manufacturing their own version of FAKE NEWS
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:20 PM
Oct 2019

They have been distorting facts and truth since before Trump took office. It's a war for the truth every day. Constantly telling the public that only he, Donald Trump, knows the truth, and you should accept his version, and by the way, it's the OTHER guys that are making things up.

Didn't you know this would end up like this, from day one? I did. I heard the early references to "only I can fix it", the invincibility, the bluster. We have never run into a charlatan like this in my lifetime. In past periods, I don't know - Huey Long? Joseph McCarthy?

Did he really think snakes and alligators in the Rio Grande was feasible?

He is not well. I mean really not well. Disturbed.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
27. You got THAT right!!!!
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:28 PM
Oct 2019
"He is not well. I mean really not well. Disturbed."

Peter, Paul, and Mary: "When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn........."

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
29. Of course...
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:31 PM
Oct 2019

Trump started the "fake news" thing and that's a dictator ploy to discredit the media, create confusion and obscure the facts.

However, it is getting crystal clear that Trump really gives himself away all the time. What he accuses others of is often actually what he is doing in some way, shape or form. It is an odd form of deflection, but there seems to be some strange psychology in that.

Time and time again, if I just say, he is talking about him or his actions or his Administration, it is like having a secret decoder ring to an idiot's crypto.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
33. Chris Hayes just said that noun/verb/9/11 told CNN
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019

that he sent the package. I'm glad the IG exposed this propaganda shit down to the Con's hotel stationery.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
34. Abramson should know -- deliberate misinformation is disinformation
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:44 PM
Oct 2019

A disinformation campaign is propaganda; it's the realm of spooks, con-artists, mobsters and dirty politicians.

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