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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:33 AM Sep 2019

Life on Mars could be found within two years but world is 'not prepared', Nasa's chief scientist say

The Independent

Nasa is close to finding life on Mars but the world is not ready for the “revolutionary” implications of the discovery, the space agency’s chief scientist has said.

Dr Jim Green has warned that two rovers from Nasa and the European Space Agency (ESA) could find evidence of life within months of arriving on Mars in March 2021.

The ExoMars Rover, which has been dubbed “Rosalind” in memory of British chemist Rosalind Franklin, will search for extra-terrestrial life by drilling 6.5 feet down into Mars’ core to take samples.

Those samples will then be crushed up and examined for organic matter in a mobile laboratory.

Dr Green compared the potential discovery to when the astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus stated that the Earth revolves around the Sun in the 16th century.

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Life on Mars could be found within two years but world is 'not prepared', Nasa's chief scientist say (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2019 OP
Religion will have some reason God put life there! Nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #1
The Earth and Mars are flat on the same plane. PufPuf23 Oct 2019 #30
Who's not prepared for it? MineralMan Sep 2019 #2
Find it first then we can talk. Sneederbunk Sep 2019 #3
+! struggle4progress Sep 2019 #19
I read something to the effect that the universe is so huge ismnotwasm Sep 2019 #4
Yes we are! c-rational Sep 2019 #5
Molecules of life in dust is different than if they found a visible fossil or bug. cbdo2007 Sep 2019 #6
Uh! Oh! Better start building a wall. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #7
Except Mars is likely sterile as the moon ... jimlup Sep 2019 #8
It used to have an atmosphere. Kentonio Oct 2019 #29
Actually it still does jimlup Oct 2019 #32
To be fair, we don't really know what is necessary for life yet. Kentonio Oct 2019 #40
I'll stand by my prediction that we won't learn about this in our lifetimes... jimlup Oct 2019 #43
I Think Humans Can Handle The Idea Of Extraterrestrial Life Vogon_Glory Sep 2019 #9
Another place for Jesus to visit and save from eternal damnation. dalton99a Sep 2019 #10
That is, is essence, the religious dilemma... brooklynite Sep 2019 #12
Or maybe Allah Falcata Sep 2019 #14
Mar's "core" is only 78" below the surface? maxsolomon Sep 2019 #11
Mars is Disaffected Sep 2019 #13
The fact that NASA is even putting this out there lets you know they already know it's there DemocraticSocialist8 Sep 2019 #15
God I hope that's the case! Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #25
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #35
we are more "prepared" than you realize.... Javaman Sep 2019 #16
What? I am way more prepared for this than the "Ancient Alien Astronaut Theorists". (nt) IndyOp Sep 2019 #17
Was tempted to post "but but Ancent Aliens" upthread. PufPuf23 Oct 2019 #31
Foolish opinion. Stick to science. NT TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #18
...cause nobody's ever contemplated the existence of aliens before JHB Sep 2019 #20
is that Bea Arthur from the holiday special? 912gdm Sep 2019 #21
Yep. JHB Sep 2019 #22
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #23
sure, NASA is lying but this seems more logical? eShirl Oct 2019 #26
Oh please! lunatica Oct 2019 #24
I can grok that. nt canetoad Oct 2019 #27
Really? PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #28
Nanu Nanu tavernier Oct 2019 #33
Most of the world probably wont even care. honest.abe Oct 2019 #34
There is intelligent life on other planets Falcata Oct 2019 #36
I suspect that there are intelligent life-forms on other worlds Vogon_Glory Oct 2019 #37
And intelligence doesn't mean technology edhopper Oct 2019 #39
Oh, heck, we've known that for years. As a matter of fact, Buns_of_Fire Oct 2019 #38
Microbial life on Mars could be Earth-based. roamer65 Oct 2019 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2019 #42

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
2. Who's not prepared for it?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
Sep 2019

I am. I expect it. Life will emerge where conditions are right for it to emerge.

ismnotwasm

(41,956 posts)
4. I read something to the effect that the universe is so huge
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:44 AM
Sep 2019

The discovery of a single other life form, some sort of bacterium say, would change the percentages of possibility of life to expect it all over the place.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
6. Molecules of life in dust is different than if they found a visible fossil or bug.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:53 AM
Sep 2019

The first is no big deal and we all assume it is probably there. The second would be a game changer, but still not something the world is "not prepared" for as I still think the assumption is that organic matter is probably not all that rare.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
8. Except Mars is likely sterile as the moon ...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:55 AM
Sep 2019

That's my hunch anyway. I hope that I am wrong. I've been wrong about such Scientific Hypothesis before. Hopefully, we will find out.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
32. Actually it still does
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:40 AM
Oct 2019

and it used to have water and even has some still. While necessary for life neither is sufficient.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
40. To be fair, we don't really know what is necessary for life yet.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:24 PM
Oct 2019

We’re only familiar with earth born life, and even then there have been some hugely surprising discoveries of creatures existing in places thought completely inimical to life.

It’s going to be fascinating to see how non-earth lifeforms have developed. I just hope the first ones are discovered in my lifetime.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
43. I'll stand by my prediction that we won't learn about this in our lifetimes...
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:03 PM
Oct 2019

I hope that I am wrong.

Even if we find evidence of ancient Martian life - it could be related to us. It may be that we are Martians through panspermia.

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
9. I Think Humans Can Handle The Idea Of Extraterrestrial Life
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
Sep 2019

There are already theories around that there were other places favorable to life here and there around the solar system and that it seems possible for microbes to “hitch rides” on meteors blasted off planetary surfaces that could eventually transit from one planet to another planet or moon.

brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
12. That is, is essence, the religious dilemma...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
Sep 2019

If life is found elsewhere, is it "fallen"? If so has it received the "good news" and received "substitutionary atonement"? If not, does that imply that it's a "higher" form of life than man?

Needless to say, if the only life is microbial or low-level, it puts a crimp in the argument for young earth creationism.

maxsolomon

(33,232 posts)
11. Mar's "core" is only 78" below the surface?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:37 AM
Sep 2019

yeah, no. that's not the right term. maybe "soil"? or "rock"?

15. The fact that NASA is even putting this out there lets you know they already know it's there
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

and they've probably already discovered it and haven't made the news public yet because of the political and religious ramifications. At the very least, they think the probability is very high and almost 100% likely if they haven't discovered it yet.

The idea that Earth is the only planet in the entire universe that has life has quickly become unrealistic. The straw that broke the camels back was when NASA started coming out years ago talking about the large number of Earth-like exoplanets in the "goldilocks zone" of nearby stars. They're saying there are millions of planets like this in the Milky Way alone. To think Earth is somehow unique is actually somewhat backward now IMHO. The laws of probability alone say the chances of that being true are slim.

Javaman

(62,497 posts)
16. we are more "prepared" than you realize....
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

this kind of statement makes me ill.

it's the same kind of statement as this, "the nation won't survive this".

we will be just fine, it's the political and religious zealots that will have a meltdown, the rest of us with be excited and then go on with our daily lives.

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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. Oh please!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:35 AM
Oct 2019

What an idiotic thing to say.

Those who aren’t “prepared” will just say it’s a conspiracy perpetrated by scientists who are also spreading lies around climate change and that the earth is a sphere.



PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
28. Really?
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:15 AM
Oct 2019

This is the bullshit excuse given for why our government is supposedly covering up the Roswell crash. Personally, I'm not at all convinced aliens were recovered, but the idea that people could not deal with the reality of intelligent life from elsewhere is total nonsense.

And I don't give a flying fuck if religions have a problem with this. Too bad.

Again, I'm not convinced that aliens have visited this planet, but I am more than willing to believe that life in some form may well exist on other planets within our solar system.

Get over it.

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
34. Most of the world probably wont even care.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:17 AM
Oct 2019

Most likely the life that will be found will be some sort of micro-organism that is able to live in extremely harsh conditions. That would be incredible to educated people interested in science and knowledge and biology. The rest of world will go "huh.. where are the little green men?".

Falcata

(156 posts)
36. There is intelligent life on other planets
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:20 AM
Oct 2019

the universe is too vast for this not to have happened. Many times over for that matter. Have they visited us? I highly doubt that, I view that as highly unlikely, that's just humans misplaced imagination that of course we're somehow important in the grand scheme of things. We aren't...

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
37. I suspect that there are intelligent life-forms on other worlds
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:36 AM
Oct 2019

But they seem to be at least hundreds of light-years away and that they have the good fortune and good sense to leave humanity alone.

If there is life on Mars, I suspect that it’s microbial at best.

If there’s life elsewhere in this solar system, I suspect that it’s deep under the ice that covers the dark, chilly oceans that cover certain moons of Jupiter and Saturn.

edhopper

(33,467 posts)
39. And intelligence doesn't mean technology
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:29 AM
Oct 2019

imagine highly evolved whales. They could be very smart, but no need to develop technology, let alone be space faring.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,148 posts)
38. Oh, heck, we've known that for years. As a matter of fact,
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:13 AM
Oct 2019

the first image from the rover's camera is now being analyzed:

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
41. Microbial life on Mars could be Earth-based.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:28 PM
Oct 2019

Ejecta from asteroid/comet impacts on Earth could have seeded Mars.

The late Cretaceous event pops to mind.

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