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Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:06 PM

"Puttin' On My Top (tinfoil) Hat......"

I wonder if this recent Ukraine business is all just a nefarious Trump et al plot to force the Dem's hand on impeachment. It seems to me that the sometimes expressed here theory that Trump actually wants to get impeached because in the longer term it will help him in 2020 (assuming it is defeated in the Senate), may be credible.

The other Democratic option was to keep more informal investigations ongoing and culminating shortly before Nov/2020 to keep the pressure on Trump and the Repubs without risking defeat in the Senate and thus giving Trump a major talking point (more "exoneration", "vindication" etc).

This might help explain why the whistle blower docs were suddenly declassified and why McTurtle was sending signals that the matter needed to be investigated.

or ??

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Reply "Puttin' On My Top (tinfoil) Hat......" (Original post)
Disaffected Sep 2019 OP
bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #1
Disaffected Sep 2019 #12
empedocles Sep 2019 #2
Nictuku Sep 2019 #3
malaise Sep 2019 #4
Disaffected Sep 2019 #5
Brainfodder Sep 2019 #6
Disaffected Sep 2019 #11
Brainfodder Sep 2019 #15
lunatica Sep 2019 #7
Disaffected Sep 2019 #9
lunatica Sep 2019 #13
Disaffected Sep 2019 #16
FrankBooth Sep 2019 #8
Disaffected Sep 2019 #10
Flaleftist Sep 2019 #14

Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:14 PM

1. That strategy works if it's a witch hunt, not so much if you're guilty

And the testimony is broadcast nationwide.

Trump always miscalculates his position at the worst possible moment.

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Response to bigbrother05 (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:47 PM

12. It would be a pretty dodgy plan alright but hey,

it's Trump we are talking about here.

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:15 PM

2. Impeachment now, seems to defintely help trump. The Speaker. et a;. know that.

It is almost certainly part of Pelosi's political calculus - we hope here calculations continue to be as effective as they have been.

Seems likely that the Speaker and McConnell have more information than they are admitting now.

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:32 PM

3. That brought a song to mind....

Todd - Rundgren - Tin Foil Hat (feat. Donald Fagen) [Official Video]:

?list=RDlos9WulxBjM

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:35 PM

4. Whatever n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:06 PM

5. Will Be Will Be nt

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:15 PM

6. One too many Ts in your title?



(Should be Putin')

Blob has no chance of winning re-election, that ship has sailed, does he remain a person at all, remains to be seen.

I won't be surprised if he just drops dead, not at all.

That would be a really twisted wrinkle to this cluster.

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Response to Brainfodder (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:44 PM

11. It reads well

either way.

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Response to Disaffected (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:59 PM

15. Yup!

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:17 PM

7. OK, you said your piece.

Now snap out of it!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:40 PM

9. Please,

do go on....

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Response to lunatica (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:35 PM

13. Cheer up!

That's what I meant. Relax a little. Enjoy the moment.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:16 PM

16. OK, I will

and I am.

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:39 PM

8. If so, playing with fire and a really stupid gamble

He would have been better off revving up the base and using his 24/7 propaganda apparatus to continue muddying the waters and hope Putin decides to help him again in 2020 -- way less risk and a lot higher chance of success.

Personally, I think that is way too sophisticated for Trump and would require someone with nerves of steel, which Dotard does not have. Sure, he's good at managing a news cycle, when it's a firing or some "Trump is imploding behind closed doors" type of BS, but a House investigation with legal teeth is a whole different ballgame. Not to mention the bombshells that have already emerged -- what else is coming in the months of testimony and investigations that are about to be unleashed? The non-Cult public is already starting to sense that this is a game changer, and that will only continue.

Regardless, Democrats have to impeach now and let the chips fall.

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Response to FrankBooth (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:42 PM

10. Yes,

even if that was the plan, it would be pretty much as you describe it.

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Response to Disaffected (Original post)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:38 PM

14. No. He's just a fucking moron.

Even if the Senate doesn't convict, it's still bad for him. He has his deplorables, but the deplorables are not enough. Impeachment doesn't help him with independents.

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