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Nixon's obsession with Ted Kennedy was the impetus that led to Watergate breakin and his downfall (Original Post) StarfishSaver Sep 2019 OP
Old Nixon and Fat Nixon are similar in a lot of ways. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #1
Yep. Link: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #2
No relationship to watergate at all, as Nixon was unaware of beachbumbob Sep 2019 #3
I choose to disagree with "Nixon was not a sociopath and narcissistic" Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #4
You've missed the entire point StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #5
"the whole Bay of Pigs thing" * * * Reading over it again makes it sound even more ominous NBachers Sep 2019 #6

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
1. Old Nixon and Fat Nixon are similar in a lot of ways.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:52 PM
Sep 2019

The main difference is that Old Nixon seemed sane in public.

Richard Nixon considered Ted Kennedy such a threat that he tried to catch him cheating on his wife, even ordering aides to plant secret service bodyguards to spy on the senator's behaviour.

"Do you have anybody in the secret service that you can get to?" the US president asked his aide John Ehrlichman in a stark series of Oval Office conversations about Kennedy before the 1972 election. "Yeah, yeah," Ehrlichman replied.

"Plant one," Nixon said. "Plant two guys on him. This could be very useful."...

Tape recordings from the Nixon White House betray a preoccupation with the Kennedy mystique and how that might be used against the Republican president by the last surviving brother, who died on Tuesday aged 77. Nixon wanted a sharp and private eye kept on Kennedy's movements after the Chappaquiddick scandal, hoping to catch him with a woman other than his wife, Joan.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/28/ted-kennedy-nixon-secret-service

and https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Nixon-s-obsession-with-Kennedys-led-to-Watergate-2807781.php
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. No relationship to watergate at all, as Nixon was unaware of
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

Burglary and probably would have vetoed it from happening. 1972 election was always going to a Nixon landslide win. Why most of American was flabbergasted by the undertaking. Like what? You are up 15pts, McGovern be lucky to win 2 states.

The Kennedy obsession by Nixon same level as trumps with Obama

Big difference, Nixon was not a sociopath and narcissistic

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
4. I choose to disagree with "Nixon was not a sociopath and narcissistic"
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:24 PM
Sep 2019

Lots of evidence to contradict that. Plus there are some Nixon mob ties to go along with it all.

The only real difference is how Nixon at least tried not to look like a burgeoning Hitler.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. You've missed the entire point
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:26 PM
Sep 2019

The Watergate break-in was a result of the "plumbers" and other sabotage initiated by Nixon intended to plug leeks and undermine Ted Kennedy, whom he was terrified would run against him in 72. whether or not he personally knew about the break-in in advance is completely beside the point.

NBachers

(17,107 posts)
6. "the whole Bay of Pigs thing" * * * Reading over it again makes it sound even more ominous
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

“the President believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don’t go any further into this case”, period!

https://genius.com/The-watergate-tapes-the-smoking-gun-tape-annotated

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