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Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:49 AM

Whistleblower complaint alleges communications stored on a SEPARATE network from normal records!!

Trump offered Ukrainian president Justice Dept. help in an investigation of Biden, memo shows
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

The complaint also alleges a pattern of obfuscation at the White House, in which officials moved the records of some of Trump’s communications with foreign officials onto a separate computer network from where they are normally stored, this person said. The whistleblower alleges that is what officials did with Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky, an action that alarmed the intelligence community inspector general and prompted him to request that the White House retain records of the Zelensky call, the person who read the complaint said.

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Senior Justice Department officials said the director of national intelligence referred concerns about the call to the Justice Department in late August, after the intelligence community inspector general found that it was a possible violation of campaign finance laws. Days later, the inspector general referred the matter to the FBI.

Career prosecutors and officials in the Justice Department’s criminal division reviewed the rough transcript, which they obtained voluntarily from the White House, and determined the facts “could not make” the appropriate basis for an investigation, a senior Justice Department official said Wednesday. The final decision was made by Brian Benczkowski, who leads the Justice Department’s criminal division. As part of their reasoning, Justice Department lawyers determined that help with a government investigation could not be quantified as “a thing of value” under the law, officials said.


Their primary source for reaching that conclusion was the memo, according to the officials. While prosecutors did gather information about how the White House memorializes presidential calls with foreign heads of state, they did not interview other White House officials because they had not formally opened an investigation. Justice Department officials still do not know who the whistleblower is, officials said Wednesday.

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Reply Whistleblower complaint alleges communications stored on a SEPARATE network from normal records!! (Original post)
Roland99 Sep 26 OP
uponit7771 Sep 26 #1
mucifer Sep 26 #2
Chemisse Sep 26 #5
meadowlander Sep 26 #8
mucifer Sep 26 #9
meadowlander Sep 26 #10
mucifer Sep 26 #11
Perseus Sep 26 #17
Roland99 Sep 26 #12
NCLefty Sep 26 #3
Frustratedlady Sep 26 #6
NCLefty Sep 26 #7
brewens Sep 26 #4
Roland99 Sep 26 #13
Perseus Sep 26 #19
usaf-vet Sep 26 #14
calimary Sep 26 #15
Clash City Rocker Sep 26 #16
Tommy_Carcetti Sep 26 #18
C_U_L8R Sep 26 #20
Roland99 Sep 26 #22
Gothmog Sep 26 #21

Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:58 AM

1. Damn this is getting worse for Red Dawn

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:16 AM

2. can someone explain to me why this would be a 5 star alarm when

there is no record at all of trump's discussions with putin.

I was hoping there was something more damning than him hiding conversations. We know he does that. I'm confused.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:30 AM

5. There must be something more. Hopefully it will leak out soon! n/t

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:21 AM

8. He tried to hide this phone call along with "some other communications"

stored on a different server. Wonder what's in those other communications, keeping in mind one whistleblower report about one phone conversation has sparked a formal impeachment inquiry in one week.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:32 AM

9. again, unless we get the details of the communications, storing something in a secret place is

not worse than having no records on the putin conversations and destroying the interpreters notes.

I am not the brightest bulb. I could be missing something.

But, from what congresswoman Jackie Spier said to Rachel last night, it sounds like something much bigger than hiding information.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:35 AM

10. If we know the information exists, Congress can demand to see it.

If Trump "destroyed" it, forensics can likely reconstruct it if they know where to look.

These people haven't mastered "reply all" and .pdfs. Do you really think they can irretrievably destroy evidence?

The scandal isn't that they are hiding information. It's what that information likely is.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:42 AM

11. Ok now that makes sense.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:43 AM

17. That by itself should be cause for impeachment, he is hiding information

I believe that can be construed as obstruction of justice because impedes any type of investigation.

My question about all this, the known fact that W. Barr has been corrupt from day one, has lied to Congress and the Citizens of the United State of America...Why is it that W. Barr is not being impeached as well? This guy is going to cause so much trouble during impeachment proceedings, I bet he will go as far as to threaten GOP members who may grow a spine and understand the seriousness of the accusations (I know a GOP with a spine is hard to imaging, but one can only hope) and thus take votes away from impeaching the creature. I think that, as imperative that it is to get rid of the creature, Pence, McConnell, Barr is of the utmost urgency, he needs to be in jail.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:44 AM

12. This is just one aspect of the whistleblower complaint

Per Wiki...

Application Edit

In June 2018, Politico reported that President Donald Trump frequently and routinely would tear up papers he received, resulting in government officials taping them together for archiving to ensure that Trump did not violate the Presidential Records Act.[6]

In July 2018, Business Insider reported that President Trump gave his personal cellphone number to various world leaders, having unrecorded conversations with them completely without U.S. officials' knowledge.[7]

In July 2018, CNN reported that The White House had suspended the practice of publishing public summaries of President Donald Trump's phone calls with world leaders, two sources with knowledge of the situation told CNN, bringing an end to a common exercise from the Republican and Democratic administrations.[8]

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:26 AM

3. Mhmm... tell me 'bout that old lady's email problems, again? What was it with her serrrrver, hrmm?

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:45 AM

6. Yeah! Think Bush and the secret server the Republicans used for their secret communications.

All we heard about was Hillary's emails.

I'm just so happy I've lived long enough to see this sick administration's shenanigans come to a head. I just hope they don't leave any rock turned over. He needs to sit and watch all the facts come out and suffer the consequences.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:46 AM

7. I think they said Powell had a private server too. She wasn't the first, even if it was against the

rules (but not law).

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 05:26 AM

4. "Justice Department officials still do not know who the whistleblower is, officials said Wednesday."

Rats, snitches and flippers all around you Donny! No telling who it might be, even one of your own family trying to cut a deal to keep their ass out of prison.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:46 AM

13. UPDATE - More details




When the call was over, senior White House officials pulled the verbatim transcript out of the system that it is traditionally stored in and put it into a separate system reserved for extremely sensitive/highly compartmented programs.






Wowww! WH officials immediately KNEW how damaging the verbatim transcript of Trump's 'perfect' call was and removed it. Apparently this was a pattern for 'sensitive' calls.
🔥🔥🔥

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:52 AM

19. Shouldn't all those "Senior WH" employees be called to testify as well?

And shouldn't they be liable for conspiracy to hide information? They have become accomplices in this act of treason by doing that.

Anyone who thinks that "conspiracies" can only happen when there are only a few people involved is not looking at this picture and also believed the accounts of 9/11 provided by the "9/11 Commission". In this administration we can see that a lot of people are involved, maybe many are doing the dirty work for fear of loosing their jobs, and I have many questions about that, no job is more important than your country, and many others because they "believe in the agenda", but nonetheless they are all complicit and should suffer the consequences.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:58 AM

14. So how does this jibe with the Presidential Records Act?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Records_Act

Russia if your listening, forget Hilary's email that old news.
Find Trump's secret communications records.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:00 AM

15. Sneaky-ass bastard!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:01 AM

16. The clearest evidence of criminal activity is the fact that they're trying to cover it up

This is the least transparent administration I’ve ever seen. Nixon was less secretive. They wouldn’t obfuscate this much if they didn’t have something to hide.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:45 AM

18. ....But....her emails. nt

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:37 AM

20. Subpoena everyone. Especially the IT folks.

And seize the illicit servers. Jesus, this is a billion times worse than a personal email server... it's total corruption.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 10:01 AM

22. Exactly...all the low-level people will not fall on any sword for anyone

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:58 AM

21. Boom

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