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Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

Does anyone else feel that the Ukraine story...

is just a prelude to a much darker narrative which is being hidden? In some of the original reporting there were mentions of multiple sinister actions but everyone, including the media, seem fixated on this one subject. I really believe there is much, much more going on here.

This is just one of the particulars I have come across, but I think there is more to it:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100212485209
Did Trump promise to tell Putin the identity(ies) of one or more US spies?

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Reply Does anyone else feel that the Ukraine story... (Original post)
dajoki Sep 2019 OP
Ilsa Sep 2019 #1
mainstreetonce Sep 2019 #2
3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #15
kentuck Sep 2019 #18
dawg day Sep 2019 #3
TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #4
Anon-C Sep 2019 #5
onecaliberal Sep 2019 #6
vsrazdem Sep 2019 #7
Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #8
Raven123 Sep 2019 #9
Mike 03 Sep 2019 #10
Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #11
dajoki Sep 2019 #22
CrispyQ Sep 2019 #12
ooky Sep 2019 #13
Chin music Sep 2019 #14
Sunsky Sep 2019 #16
H2O Man Sep 2019 #17
Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #19
ArcticFox Sep 2019 #20
Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #21
world wide wally Sep 2019 #23

Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:44 AM

1. Yes, it feels like the

Iceberg has a root underwater that is the size of the moon.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:47 AM

2. Very possible there is more to it.

So Trump turns over the transcript and says no big deal and the real truth is never known

Whistle blower should go public..

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:00 PM

15. Trump doesn't turn over "the transcript." He turns over "a transcipt."

-- Nuthin' to see here.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:22 PM

18. Just enough to convince his followers ...

...that he is being harrassed by the Democrats and the "fake media".

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:51 AM

3. I think the whistleblower AND the IG might get a little upset if the issue is something else--

And Trump is getting the media to focus on this instead.

If Schiff subpoenas the WB, maybe something will come out. The WB can supply the complaint, even if he/she is afraid to appear in public (Which I understand-- Trump has some extremely nasty fans).

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:51 AM

4. I worry

That they will resort to putting a hit on whoever we nominate.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:54 AM

5. ...

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:55 AM

6. I also think this is the real story. N/T

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:59 AM

7. I am waiting for a more credible source, but I think it is very possible.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:02 PM

8. When he confesses to having done something (tell Ukraine pres to fix Biden)..

The truth of what was really done is much, much worse.

“Please convict me of election fixing, and not demanding enormous kickbacks of US aid dollars”! (Just as example).

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:03 PM

9. Absolutely

The narrative is swinging toward release of the phone transcripts of one call. Next we will hear Bill Barr’s redacted transcript. Not so fast. The Intel Committee needs to hear the entire whistleblower complaint.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:06 PM

10. Yes. The reason why is some of the theories DUers have posted that

were very close to what is being revealed thus far, but not the entire story. The urgency attached to the whistleblower's complaint suggests there's a second element that hasn't been revealed.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:10 PM

11. Trump was doing

what Putin instructed him to do. Putin and Company have Trump by the short ones and they can pull his Loans at any time.

All about money and Social Prestige .

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:07 PM

22. Exactly n/t

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:27 PM

13. Could be.

What we know is that the IG seems to think it's pretty bad.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:14 PM

16. Yes the truth remains hidden

While they smear Biden, and the MSM falls for their dirty tricks again.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:15 PM

17. Tip of the ice cube.

There is worse to come.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:28 PM

19. Intelligence agencies call this "the limited hangout". Admit to something bad, cover something worse

Until we see the whistleblower's report, we won't know what we are dealing with.

I contend it is possible the Ukrainian phone call is not the subject of the complaint at all.

There may be something bigger in play.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:46 PM

20. Of course

It's a head fake

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Response to ArcticFox (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:55 PM

21. ... by a fake head

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:58 PM

23. Only if Putin asked him

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