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Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:47 PM

I hope that when future historians write about this period

they don't just discuss that thing in the Oval Office. I hope they also write about all the assholes in Congress and elsewhere that have made this one of the darkest periods in US history.

I hope they mention them by name: McConnell, Ryan, Graham, right down the line. And I hope they include the assholes who helped feed it: Hannity, Carlson, and others.

I hope they all get their immortality of infamy.

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Reply I hope that when future historians write about this period (Original post)
grumpyduck Sep 2019 OP
Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #1
FiveGoodMen Sep 2019 #2
Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #3
grumpyduck Sep 2019 #7
customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #4
UTUSN Sep 2019 #5
GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #6
a la izquierda Sep 2019 #8

Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:57 PM

1. assumes homo sapiens survives to write that future history

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 03:06 PM

2. What practical good will it do, after the fact?

History is the stuff that can never be changed.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 03:20 PM

3. History shows us who we are and from where we have come.

It is only in the context of history that we as species understand ourselves.
How we act and react under stress and challenges. And what is possible going forth.

We are a moving drama. This is only a brief moment in that dynamic, but the
future will be shaped by what we do or do not do now. And future people's
will look to this generation to see how our decisions have determined their lives.

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Response to Big Blue Marble (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

7. Thank you.

I was going to respond, but you did better than I could have.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:04 PM

4. For generations

there will be master's theses and doctoral dissertations about these trying times. All of the supporting cast will get at least a dishonorable mention.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:59 PM

5. They might call us all cowards,too, or be wingnut robots themselves

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

6. History is written by the winners.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:23 AM

8. A quick examination of recent historical titles on indigenous peoples...

would show this to be false.
Current events might be written (or perhaps the talking points controlled) by the winners. But those of us who've spent our lives as professional historians will always get the story out as accurately as we can. The British colonists who "settled" Virginia and Massachusetts certainly appear to be winners. But the stories of the indigenous peoples they tried to destroy are ever-more present. The stories of the conquests of the Americas, for instance, are ever-evolving, and the Europeans do not look so good.
I say this as someone who's written on indigenous peoples of Mexico for nearly 20 years. It may take awhile, but historians have long memories.

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