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Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:08 PM

The Evil Vapor: Let's see what the prestigious UK Royal College of Physicians had to say about it?

From 2016 ...

And before you try to say 'bu .. bu ... but that's before all these people got sick and died!!!!11!!!' ... let me point out, once again, that there's ZERO (0) evidence at this time that people are getting sick due to vaping traditional nicotine containing products from reputable vendors ... nearly all of the sick people have admitted to using black market THC products, and the large majority of the vaped THC samples scientists have procured from victims are turning out to have been 'cut' with Vitamin E Acetate, a dangerous Oil to inhale ...

Royal College Of Physicians Says E-Cigarettes Can 'Prevent Almost All The Harm From Smoking'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2016/04/28/royal-college-of-physicians-says-e-cigarettes-can-prevent-almost-all-the-harm-from-smoking/#7c77b51149b8

Royal Physicians: "Large-scale substitution of e-cigarettes, or other non-tobacco nicotine products, for tobacco smoking has the potential to prevent almost all the harm from smoking in society,” the RCP says. “Promoting e-cigarettes…and other non-tobacco nicotine products as widely as possible, as a substitute for smoking, is therefore likely to generate significant health gains in the UK.”

Is vaping safer than smoking?

Royal Physicians: “E-cigarette vapour contains a far less extensive range of toxins, and those present are typically at much lower levels, than in tobacco smoke,” the report notes. “In normal conditions of use, toxin levels in inhaled e-cigarette vapour are probably well below prescribed threshold limit values for occupational exposure, in which case significant long-term harm is unlikely. Some harm from sustained exposure to low levels of toxins over many years may yet emerge, but the magnitude of these risks relative to those of sustained tobacco smoking is likely to be small….Although it is not possible to quantify the long-term health risks associated with e-cigarettes precisely, the available data suggest that they are unlikely to exceed 5% of those associated with smoked tobacco products, and may well be substantially lower than this figure.

The RCP argues that appropriate safety regulations could further reduce the hazards posed by e-cigarettes. But it warns that if regulation “makes e-cigarettes less easily accessible, less palatable or acceptable, more expensive, less consumer friendly or pharmacologically less effective, or inhibits innovation and development of new and improved products, then it causes harm by perpetuating smoking.”

Do e-cigarettes help smokers quit?

Royal Physicians: “Smokers who use nicotine products as a means of cutting down on smoking are more likely to make quit attempts,” the RCP says. “Promoting wider use of consumer nicotine products, such as e-cigarettes, could therefore substantially increase the number of smokers who quit.”

Are e-cigarettes a gateway to smoking?

Royal Physicians: “There is no evidence that either NRT or e-cigarette use has resulted in renormalisation of smoking,” the RCP says. “None of these products has to date attracted significant use among adult never-smokers, or demonstrated evidence of significant gateway progression into smoking among young people.”


Much more MYTH BUSTING at the article ... I urge a read ...

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Reply The Evil Vapor: Let's see what the prestigious UK Royal College of Physicians had to say about it? (Original post)
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Response to mr_lebowski (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:36 PM

1. Discussions like this are frustrating sometimes

I followed the link to the uk nhs report in one of the other threads which seems to be what you excerpted from the forbes article.

[link:https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/long-term-vaping-far-safer-than-smoking-says-landmark-study/|]

The result of the study seems to be that vaping is safer than smoking and used lab tests such as blood and urine tests to reach that conclusion. It’s peer reviewed.

It doesn’t seem to make any claims about vaping being as safe as not vaping.

I don’t understand why that’s a shocking result. I’m fortunate not to have ever been a smoker but I can understand why vaping is a good alternative for smokers. If my kids were young enough to be considering taking up vaping I’d try to discourage them just in case some long term negative effects are found in the future. But the last paragraph of your excerpt says nonsmokers aren’t taking up vaping.

Again I don’t see why this should be controversial. Seems like vaping is a quantifiably better alternative than smoking but probably not as good as not smoking.

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:42 PM

2. For SURE it's worse than doing neither ... I'm certainly not arguing that and don't know anyone

who is.

I just wanted to share some observations on the subject from a prestigious outfit, so people are aware of what 'the experts' have actually been saying re: vaping nicotine.

Thanks for the reply

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