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Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:46 AM

Breaking news: "IMPEACHMENT"

House panel plans to intensify Trump impeachment probe
David Morgan
SEPTEMBER 12, 2019 / 4:07 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Democratic-led U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee is expected to intensify its investigation of Republican President Donald Trump on Thursday, as lawmakers edge closer to deciding whether to recommend his impeachment.

The 41-member panel has scheduled an 8 a.m. EDT (1200 GMT) meeting to vote on a resolution allowing it to designate hearings as impeachment proceedings, subject witnesses to more aggressive questioning and quicken the pace of an investigation that is expanding into areas that could prove politically explosive for both Trump and Congress.

A more aggressive probe could add pressure on House Democratic leaders including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has resisted impeachment as a politically risky step for moderate Democratic freshmen from swing districts where ousting Trump is an unpopular idea.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/house-panel-plans-to-intensify-trump-impeachment-probe-idUSKCN1VX10A

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Reply Breaking news: "IMPEACHMENT" (Original post)
real Cannabis calm Thursday OP
Blues Heron Thursday #1
riversedge Thursday #2
AllyCat Thursday #18
real Cannabis calm Thursday #22
calimary Thursday #25
Poiuyt Thursday #40
calimary Thursday #42
yellowdogintexas Thursday #44
Grasswire2 Thursday #32
yellowdogintexas Thursday #45
StarfishSaver Thursday #3
ChiTownDenny Thursday #8
iluvtennis Thursday #23
Indykatie Thursday #20
real Cannabis calm Thursday #37
Amimnoch Thursday #28
empedocles Thursday #29
stopdiggin Thursday #34
CaptainTruth Thursday #31
ehrnst Thursday #36
uponit7771 Thursday #46
bdamomma Thursday #4
Laura PourMeADrink Thursday #6
Botany Thursday #5
dalton99a Thursday #11
Botany Thursday #16
MadMike47 Thursday #7
grantcart Thursday #9
real Cannabis calm Thursday #14
Cuthbert Allgood Thursday #38
onetexan Friday #48
grantcart Thursday #39
calimary Thursday #27
malaise Thursday #10
bdamomma Thursday #12
usaf-vet Thursday #13
Laura PourMeADrink Thursday #15
Grasswire2 Thursday #33
jayschool2013 Thursday #17
mysteryowl Thursday #19
triron Thursday #26
Baclava Thursday #21
Scarsdale Thursday #24
cwydro Thursday #30
LiberalLovinLug Thursday #35
Mc Mike Thursday #41
Bradical79 Thursday #43
PhoenixDem Thursday #47

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:54 AM

1. "edges closer" keep on edging guys - u know what must be done!

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Response to Blues Heron (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:58 AM

2. yes, it MUST be done. Get the Republican votes on the Record. Make Trump face

the consequences of his lawlessness and cruelty.

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Response to Blues Heron (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:16 AM

18. Keep edging. 2020 will be here soon enough

And then we can throw up our hands and say “let’s just vote” and have those votes stolen.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:31 AM

22. Your reply resembles a likely Pelosi strategy...

"Keep edging" closer to impeachment, while revealing Trump crimes and PLENTY of scandal, along the path to elections. "Fake news" media - as defined by the Chief Executive criminal - will publicly destroy tRump and his crime syndicate.

As for "votes stolen" your reply reflects my greatest fear.

Stolen or miscounted votes can be accomplished in several ways, including foreign hacker intervention, paperless voting machines. gerrymandering and a whole bunch of newly appointed federal judges (R), willing to rule on election vote recounts.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:52 AM

25. But the problem she's avoiding is - the Russians.

To say we’ll just vote him out? That’s far more naive than I’d have expected from such a savvy veteran of many years of political wars.

Does she not realize the cheating and vote-rigging that WILL be underway to subvert next year’s vote? Hell, it’s underway right this minute!

Does she NOT take that into account? And WHY is she not taking that into account? Whistling past the graveyard, Nancy? Hoping the old systems we haven’t protected and have barely started updating will work?

The old saying was “that and a dime will get you a cup of coffee. This “hoping” and a dime will get you a few minutes on a parking meter (if even that much).

Get. The. Fuck. ON WITH IT!!!!

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Response to calimary (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 04:37 PM

40. He cheated to win the last election--there's no doubt he'll cheat again

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #40)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 06:22 PM

42. And Pelosi is not addressing that at all.

I was going to add that she’s not recognizing this very serious reality, but I cannot imagine that she wouldn’t be aware of that threat. Just can’t imagine it - someone of her rank and much-hailed legendary savvy.

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Response to calimary (Reply #42)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:08 PM

44. She is not addressing it publicly

Honorable Speaker plays close to the vest. I'd never want to play poker with her

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:03 PM

32. Let me insert this here...



[link:https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2019/09/10/election-security-000954|


"There are three things that every election jurisdiction needs to secure their systems: voter-verifiable paper ballots, a strong chain of custody of those ballots and rigorous postelection ballot audits."

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #32)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:23 PM

45. We are getting new voting machines which

allow a touch screen to make selections, but produce a paper ballot.
After you have checked in, instead of a printed ballot you will be handed a blank paper. It's the same weight and size as our old paper ballots were. So the election judge will issue a code for you to access the ballot for your precinct.
The voter uses a touch screen for each selection then when the voter is satisfied with the selections, the blank ballot is inserted and printed. The voter can review the printout, make sure it's correct and take it to the scanner. If the voter made a mistake, the printout can be returned to the election judge and a new blank and access code will be given to the voter.

Even before these new machines, we had an excellent chain of custody for our paper ballots. They came in a sealed box inside the scanner, we broke a seal to get in and the seal number was recorded. At the end of the day, the voted ballots are placed in a box which is sealed and the seal number is recorded. Every piece of equipment is sealed and resealed. Unused ballots were locked back into the scanner and the keys are returned to the Elections office separately.

Of course now we will not have printed ballots and will not be returning unvoted ballots to the Elections Office. Just blank paper to use next time. (We are going to save a fortune on printing!! In the elections I have judged I never used more than 25% of the printed ballots which were supplied)

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:00 AM

3. I love how the press keeps talking about how the committee's action is "pressuring" Speaker Pelosi

who has "resisted" impeachment - completely ignoring the fact that every action they're taking is being done with the imprimatur of and support of the Speaker and if she weren't fully behind it, none of this would be unfolding as it is.

People really think Pelosi is trying not to get thrown into a briar patch. Ok.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:42 AM

8. +1

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Response to ChiTownDenny (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:36 AM

23. + 2

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:21 AM

20. I Keep Seeing the Same Thing Here on DU About Pelosi's Resistance

Or worse that nothing is being done at all to support moving towards impeachment.

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:43 PM

37. I keep reading the same crap! Odd isn't it?

Am I still in Democratic Underground or did I post in Democratic criticism?

Pelosi knows how to win. The most effective strategy is to drag out this impeachment investigation until election time, which allows the press to report on every crime and scandal perpetrated by the tRump crime family and his GOP syndicate.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:58 AM

28. Really!

It's almost mind numbing how many don't have faith in her.

She isn't "resisting" anything. She is playing a BRILLIANT game of political chess as a master. Given the large wealth of history, every move she makes will be extremely well thought out, and done at just the right time to have the best possible outcome for US.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

29. Really, these Monday Morning, desktop, QBs; who have less than 1/100th

of the Speaker's information/knowledge/experience.

[And, they keep endlessly, doggedly at their resentful, unlearning, %#&@, ways]

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:09 PM

34. and on, and on, and on ..

just simply NOT getting the message. No matter how often it is presented. At some point, you sort of have to start wondering why. Is there an underlying agenda here?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:34 AM

31. +1

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:22 PM

36. +1000

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:38 PM

46. +1

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:01 AM

4. Let's make those

repigs squirm like the swamp people that they are. Let McConnell take the whole party down by propping up this POS fake so called pResident.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:24 AM

6. Have they already voted? Did I miss it?

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:03 AM

5. He is gonna be impeached sooner rather than later and if the GOP Senators still want ...

... to stand with him fine let 'em. A.O.C. speaks for me.

https://news.yahoo.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-republicans-on-record-impeachment-183507670.html

AOC: 'I want to see every Republican go on the record and knowingly vote against impeachment'


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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:45 AM

11. +1. Let them defend the traitor.



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:04 AM

16. Biggest Crime (or series of crimes) in American History

"They" worked with a hostile foreign power in order to attack and destroy our
democracy. End of story. And Russia had to have had inside help in order to
install Trump and rig all those other elections too.


272 proven contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russia.

https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:31 AM

7. What about Moscow Mitch?

Put yourself in Nancy Pelosi's shoes for a minute. At what point would you be willing to allow the House to take a vote that would send Trump's fate to the Senate, where Republicans hold a majority and their leader is "Moscow Mitch" McConnell? I can envision a day when Mitch is begging for her to send Trump's fate to him. But she's smart enough to know she should never let him have the upper hand.

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Response to MadMike47 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:43 AM

9. They could vote to impeach and not send it to the Senate for a trial for removal


They could also vote for censure.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:02 AM

14. Can the House do that? Please explain with a supportive link...

The Democratic strategy you report could be effective, if it is delayed long enough for House investigations to reveal plenty of crimes and scandal to media and US voters.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:46 PM

38. Laurence Tribe has said they can do this.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #38)

Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:29 AM

48. I agree with Laurence. House Dems, just get it done.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:58 PM

39. If they vote for a resolution of Impeachment it probably has to be referred to the Senate


because it is specifically referred to in the Constitution.

Resolutions of Censure or Reprimand are not in the Constitution.

The House can pass any resolution it wants. They could pass a "Resolution of Detailing Crimes committed by the President" and then "as the general election is near refer it to the American people" instead of the Senate.

I agree with investigation and voting but would rather keep Trump on the ticket so that he can suffer a massive electoral defeat.

The only way that we can destroy Trumpism/Republican Party is to sustain a massive and overwhelming electoral victory.

Impeaching and winning a narrow victory at the GE because we have taken out Trump and they run with a Romney/Haley ticket could reverse the current deep decline of the GOP and give them a clean slate to sell a new set of lies.

It is imperative IMO that we keep Trump on the ticket and make him accountable. We can still investigate, document and set him up for state prosecution.

I expect that if Trump is impeached and appears to be removed or loses the election that he will pardon everyone and then resign just before he is out of office and take a pardon from Pence

He will then spend everyday in front of microphones complaining about being persecuted and gaslighting the country.

The only way to extinguish this fire is an overwhelming renunciation at the polls, a McGovern type of loss.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:57 AM

27. Censure is a whole lotta nothing.

Madame Speaker, YOU need to be twisting arms in that chamber, dammit! Get more wavering Dems ON BOARD, DAMMIT!!!

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:43 AM

10. Justice is coming

and soon

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Response to malaise (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:51 AM

12. I hope so

the country and us can't take this any longer.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:59 AM

13. Trumps crimes must be documented and left as an historical record of his corrupt administration.

Getting EVERY republican in Congress on the record is equally important to also document.

Even if Moscow Mitch refuses to hold a trial in the Senate, so be it. But the House has to do its constitutional duty to hold impeachment hearings.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:02 AM

15. +1

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:06 PM

33. this

Too many times in recent history, Dems have failed their duty to the Constitution. Too many times, GOP have used "comity" and "bipartisanship" strengths of Dems against us -- against democracy itself. And Dems let it happen.

Toughen up!

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:15 AM

17. After so much edging

The payoff is usually pretty explosive, I must say.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

19. This is a couple years late.

Would the phrase "better late than never" apply here?

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:53 AM

26. Just about.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:25 AM

21. "Edge closer"??? Dont tease, shit or get off the pot n/t

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:49 AM

24. This entire fiasco about

"Should we or shouldn't we impeach tRump" makes me furius. Did the gop waver like this when they rushed to impeach Clinton over a consentual affair, then lying about it? NO. While several of them were involved in extra marital affairs of their own, they vilified Clinton. All tut-tutting about what a RAT he was, and giggling behind the scenes. List all the lies, law breaking, Emolument Clause ignoring for the entire country to read about. THEN make the gop explain WHY Clinton was so much worse. This tippy toeing around about this orange asshole is just a waste of time. Go for it, full steam ahead.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #24)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:06 AM

30. This.

1000 times.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 02:45 PM

35. "Inching closer"...to "Sorry, too late, we have to now concentrate on the next election"




The longer he is 'normalized" the harder it will be to remove him. Another year and a half will further erode our institutions and add to his aura of invincibility. I predict that if Democrats chicken out on impeachment, his popularity will rise again to 50% for the next election. More than enough percent to cheat into another victory.

He is an actual reality star. He's like a deplorable bully survivor contestant who gains respect the longer he survives. There's a point that a despicable contestant becomes endearing for how well he manipulates and lies his way out of being voted off. Many Independents and Never Trumpers, moderate R's, will come back to him in 2020 just for the fact that he's a survivor. Even though there's an alliance on the island that COULD vote him off, they are fretting about how his own alliance members remaining and on the jury will react to them in the final vote. So they do nothing, and suddenly they find the asshole has won the game.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 06:02 PM

41. Rec # 100, thanks, Nt.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 06:28 PM

43. Happy to hear :-) -nt

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:54 PM

47. This is very good

I wish them all the luck in finding relevant evidence

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