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Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:48 AM

Don't threaten, just do it!

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Reply Don't threaten, just do it! (Original post)
triron Sep 10 OP
Fullduplexxx Sep 10 #1
RKP5637 Sep 10 #2
triron Sep 10 #6
RKP5637 Sep 10 #3
dalton99a Sep 10 #4
real Cannabis calm Sep 10 #5
gratuitous Sep 10 #7
triron Sep 10 #8
maxsolomon Sep 10 #10
triron Sep 10 #12
stopdiggin Sep 10 #14
maxsolomon Sep 10 #16
stopdiggin Sep 10 #17
maxsolomon Sep 10 #18
stopdiggin Sep 10 #13
stopdiggin Sep 10 #15
Skittles Sep 12 #26
triron Sep 10 #9
spanone Sep 10 #11
elocs Sep 10 #19
triron Sep 10 #20
elocs Sep 10 #21
triron Sep 10 #23
SoCalDem Sep 10 #22
triron Sep 11 #24
triron Sep 12 #25

Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:56 AM

1. Im really damn sick of these games

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:07 AM

2. K&R!!!!!!! n/t

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:37 AM

6. When will they learn?!

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:08 AM

3. Like the GOP gets so scared of these threats ... n/t

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:11 AM

4. Perhaps the threats should be strongly worded

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

5. recommended to publicize

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:09 PM

7. Yes, it's tiresome

But there are certain hoops to be jumped through before a subpoena will be issued. If and when this comes before a judge to force the Secretary of Defense to comply with a congressional request, the judge is going to want to be sure that all the procedural niceties were observed: Did you ask for these records? Yes? Did you give the Secretary a reasonable period of time to respond? Did the Secretary fail to meet that deadline or ask for more time? Did you inform the Secretary that the next step would be a subpoena? Did the Secretary fail to respond to the subpoena, if only to tell you to go jump in the lake? All right, you exhausted your administrative remedies, the court will now hear the arguments of the parties as to why Congress should ask for these records and, if it's a legitimate request (as it appears to be, which is why the court is involved), why the Secretary doesn't think he needs to respond to Congress.

If you don't go through all these steps, a judge will make you go back and do them before he or she will hear any motion to compel a response.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:14 PM

8. This makes congress pretty ineffective imo.

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Response to triron (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:52 PM

10. it exposes our constitution as a sham.

and trump knew it.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:02 PM

12. I am increasingly disappointed in the constitution and our so-called 'justice' system.

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Response to triron (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:09 PM

14. Uhmmm. OK. Guess that settles that. (nt)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:21 PM

16. they have no timely means to force compliance with their oversight responsibilities.

mnuchin is running roughshod over their lawful requests. DOJ won't help them.

do you see this otherwise?

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:32 PM

17. do you see any (rational) recourse? (nt)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:37 PM

18. obviously i don't. i already said as much.

if i'd said "toothless", would that be better? our constitution has been exposed as toothless.

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Response to triron (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:07 PM

13. and your suggestion for a "more effective" congress?

somebody provides a decent explanation .....

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:13 PM

15. excellent explanation

Thanks, once again, for taking the time to lay out some of the "legal legwork" (and facts on the ground) involved. Apparently we need to keep hearing them ...

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:29 AM

26. yes, that's what they keep saying

then nothing ever happens

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:27 PM

9. knr

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:56 PM

11. the committee SHOULD KNOW goddamn well why they are ignoring this request.

like they've fucking ignored every other request.

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:49 PM

19. I don't click on tweet links so a hint for this cryptic thread would have been nice. n/t

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Response to elocs (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:57 PM

20. You can't see it? Quite a bit of detail I see.

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Response to triron (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:59 PM

21. "Don't threaten, just do it!" Who threatens? Just do what? A title should be like a headline

and tell you what the thread is about.

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Response to elocs (Reply #21)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:42 PM

23. According to?

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Response to triron (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:14 PM

22. Unfortunately, while Dems are checking the regs..dotting our "i"s, crossing our "t"s

republicans are packing courts, breaking every rule, rampaging at will..

It's what we do. and it's why we lose a majority when we do finally get one.. we do not use the power we seek.

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:19 PM

24. Conplicitousness?

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Response to triron (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

25. kick for visibility

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