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Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:29 PM

Why the weather map alteration is very important..This one is easy and simple to understand.

First...It is easy to understand the extra line around Alabama. Someone drew an extra line, and the map has been altered.

Second... It is also easy to understand why someone did it. Because it prevents Trump being seen as a liar and being "stupid"

That is also easy to understand. He clearly doesn't want to look stupid, as Alabama statement proves he is.
..........Everyone understands that.....

It is not complicated. Easy to understand the extra line, (everyone can see it) and easy to understand the reason why it was ordered drawn..(to protect Trump on the Alabama statement)

All that needs to be done, is find out who ordered it?. In my opinion, that will be easy too. So, this lie, is the impeachable offense that everyone understands what and why. Now we need to find out who and when. That will not be too difficult either. Who is going to lie on this if it is against the law?

Who will cover for Trump if he ordered this? Think about that?

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Reply Why the weather map alteration is very important..This one is easy and simple to understand. (Original post)
Stuart G Sep 4 OP
hlthe2b Sep 4 #1
Stuart G Sep 4 #4
kacekwl Sep 4 #8
hlthe2b Sep 4 #9
kacekwl Sep 4 #10
hlthe2b Sep 4 #12
malaise Sep 4 #2
Maeve Sep 4 #3
Stuart G Sep 4 #6
Blue Owl Sep 4 #5
Stuart G Sep 4 #7
spanone Sep 4 #11
kentuck Sep 4 #13
A Brand New World Sep 5 #14
canetoad Sep 5 #15
mercuryblues Sep 5 #16
tclambert Sep 5 #17
Arazi Sep 5 #18

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:32 PM

1. Which is why in my separate post, I have a real problem with Rachel Maddow making light of it.

On Hurricane Dorian, Trump gave reality a little touch-up


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/hurricane-dorian-trump-gave-reality-little-touch

I think I need to skip her show tonight. I really don't want to see her laugh about this.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:36 PM

4. Rachel made a mistake. You do not make fun of the proof that is needed to get rid of Trump.

And if this is "the proof" needed, then Rachel Maddow will apologize. She has no problem doing so.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:52 PM

8. OMG if this is the proof what has the other

Hundreds of impeachable offences and crimes been. As sad as it is it's also hilarious.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:59 PM

9. His other hundreds of impeachable offenses have already been "normalized" by way of our not

doing anything about them. This had the potential to put lives at risk. Hah, hah, hah, How funny you must think that is!

No, it damn well is not.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:32 PM

10. You honestly think THIS is what will

sink him ? It will be, if any defense is made blamed on a staffer , maybe poor Kevin and its back to golf.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:43 PM

12. NO. and nowhere did I ever say that in any way whatsoever. My point is it should be taken seriously

People die in hurricanes. I should know. I lost friends to Andrew in 1992. I don't take this kind of thing as an amusing anecdote.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:33 PM

2. #2 Item on ABC prime time - after the hurricane itself

This is madness

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:35 PM

3. Let's see....who likes to sign things with black Sharpies?

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Response to Maeve (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:49 PM

6. Let's think about this as a comparison.. Yes, there was a 15 minute gap in the Watergate tape.

...Who made that gap? What was erased? Ok, when that was exposed there was all kinds of talk about it. But the bottom line was, that there was a gap in the tape. Who had access to the tape?. Well we know who would have access to the tape. Don't we? We also have reason to believe that there was something important on that tape, and someone erased it. But we found out the whole story about the crooked Nixon Administration, without knowing who erased the tape. It was important to know that there was a gap, but in the end it didn't matter.
....Who altered the map? Who ordered it to be altered? Don't know yet.
... Why? We already know why? How, it was a black Sharpie? or something like that. When? Probably right before the press conference. Why Alabama? We know that too.

Whoever altered the map, opened a door that needed to be kept closed. It is now open, and I think this could justify the impeachment to come. Why? Everyone understands an altered map, and why it might have been altered. We all understand that....Just like we understand the 15 minute gap in the Watergate Tape.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:37 PM

5. It's so ridiculously stupid it could only be Donny Boy

n/t

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:50 PM

7. Blue Owl has said it better than anyone could."So ridiculously stupid, it could only be Donny Boy"

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:35 PM

11. we know who ordered it....

John Barron

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:53 PM

13. Trump lies to supplement a lie that he plans on telling later...

There is an important election coming up in Alabama. I assume he wanted to later brag to the people of Alabama how he helped them during the Great Hurricane?

He is always one lie ahead of himself.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 01:44 AM

14. My scenario on how this all played out:

Trump ordered NOAA or NWS, whoever originally prepared the map, to revise it to his specifications that included portions of Alabama to cover for his mistake in the tweet. They refused, as they were not going to destroy their credibility or break the law. Thus Trump himself pulled out his Sharpie or ordered one of his flunkies to alter the map. I think he did it himself though.

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Response to A Brand New World (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 02:05 AM

15. I'll have to see if I can find the source

But, while trawling #SharpieGate for funny images I came across a tweet that said the exact same time/dated map had earlier been on the Whitehouse website, minus the black marking over Alabama.

I doubt whether even trump could order NOAA to alter their maps to suit his ramblings.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 07:34 AM

16. Will it reach some Alabamians brain cells?

Many people can not afford to run out and buy hurricane supplies. Saying you are in the path of a hurricane incites the population. trump has conditioned his followers to only believe him. This stunt will have little impact on them.

What people do when they are told they are in a hurricane's path

fill their cars up with gas, buy plywood, canned goods & water, maybe buy a generator, get as much cash as they can, make evacuation plans if needed. There is no need to buy paper towels. They know trump will toss out a few rolls to those he deems worthy enough.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 09:24 PM

17. Even this defense makes him look stupid. He used five day old information to defend his stupidly

erroneous statement. Why did he use old info? Because he didn't care enough to keep up to date on a catastrophic hurricane. Too busy cheating at golf.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 09:44 PM

18. I only have one addition: whoever drew that has a steady hand

It's crisp and almost looks computer drawn. I doubt #Traitor has the motor skills anymore to draw that specifically.

I'll bet brazillions that whoever drew it is a #Cult45 true believer and will never tell the truth about this

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