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Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:05 PM

May I vent? An email that I received from a MAGAt about "tRumps popularity"

I wanted to share the following email that I received from a tRump cult member, along with my response. The reason I'm sharing this is to show just how delusional, influenced and misinformed they actually are and it helps for me to vent a bit. I have zero tolerance for this crap and I wanted to give everyone here a head's up. Yes, this person went right to my block feature. Also, I have a headache after reading this garbage.




This article is Outstanding and should be read by everyone, not just conservatives.



Trump's popularity. Written by no less an august figure than the Mayor of Livermore, CA





The mayor of Livermore California (who is a Democrat) explains Trump’s popularity and success. This is perhaps the best explanation for Trump's popularity ....



Marshall Kamena is a registered Democrat and was elected mayor of Livermore, CA.. He ran on the democratic ticket as he knew a Bay Area city would never vote for a Republican. He is as conservative as they come. He wrote the following:



Trump’s 'lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship' By Marshall Kamena, Mayor of Livermore, CA.



My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”



Here’s my answer: We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.



We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?



We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?

And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.



I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party.

I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks.



I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent.



Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale.. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today.

The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety.

With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.



During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming.



Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today.



Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”



General George Patton was a vulgar-talking.. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.



Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”



That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis.

It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.



Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN.. He made it personal.

Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.”... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond.

This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive.



Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.



Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.



So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do.



These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.

So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America!



My response:
I debunked this claim that this was written by a Democratic Mayor named Marshall Kamena. This opinion piece was written by Evan Sayet. Link here: https://www.providencejournal.com/opinion/20170725/my-turn-evan-sayet-trump-may-be-crass-but-he-fights|


The right thing to do at this point would be to send out a correction about who the author actually is, but I know that won't happen. Please remove my email address from your contact list. Thank you.


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czarjak Aug 2019 #1
Cartoonist Aug 2019 #2
Karadeniz Aug 2019 #3
mnhtnbb Aug 2019 #4
Niagara Aug 2019 #8
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rurallib Aug 2019 #10

Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:31 PM

1. "A man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush"?????

Good one, rube.

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:01 PM

2. Huh?


We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
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Ask his dog.

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:08 PM

3. Rarely does one find so much crap outside a pig sty. I wish our newspaper didn't impose

a 200-word limit on letters.

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:15 PM

4. It wasn't Hillary who famously suggested

Dems "go high when they go low". It was Michelle Obama.

What a piece of trash writing.

My sister in law was sending around crap like this years ago filled with erroneous information being presented as factual. I kept telling her to check her facts. Finally I once hit reply all and boy did that bring out her Reich wing gang to defend the glorious Christian.

I ended up blocking her emails so I would no longer receive her crap. That was during Bush years.

She and my brother are both Trumpsters. Recently I looked at her FB page and she was all loving all over her page for her family and friends. She is probably the biggest phony Christian I know.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:31 PM

8. Exactly

Reading this email actually gave me a headache. I was going to debunk all of it but feel like there's no reason and logic with MAGAts, so I just pointed out that it wasn't a Democratic Mayor who wrote this crap piece.


I also had family members that sent me crap like this years ago during Barack Obama's 2008 campaign. I politely asked them to stop and they wouldn't stop. When I contributed to his campaign, I would use their email address for the contributions. I think they finally figured it out that it was me and the emails finally stopped. Most of my family are phony Christians as well.

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:22 PM

5. I tried, I made it to "nicer"... Romney.

Easily revealed as crap, with mere minutes of research, even to that spot.

So perhaps they are the lazy they worry about and that is why they worry about it, they don't want MORE lazy?



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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:24 PM

6. Why he is popular

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:25 PM

7. Delusional.

That's the essential problem with Republicans. They have low ability to think... for themselves or critically... or seemingly at all.

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:48 PM

9. "Evan has become the nation's leading conservative political comedian"

https://evansayet.com/evan-sayet/

I'm guessing this was Evan's idea of a funny funny joke

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Response to Niagara (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:48 PM

10. my first take is this must be the Onion

but even the Onion relies on getting its facts straight.
People based in reality will laugh at this - the wingers will love it.

I must go back and reread - it was hard to try to choke this one down.

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