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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:53 PM

A lot of my friends are terrified aobut 2020...

Not afraid Trump will win.. but what will happen when he loses.

First thing he does is claim the election was rigged, the polls are fake news and he didn't lose, demands a new election.

Courts and congress tell him to go piss up a rope.

He then issues Executive Orders 'negating the election', dissolving congress, removing the supreme court..

Courts and congress again tell him to go piss up a rope.

Der Fuhrer calls upon his MAGAts... to 'take to the streets, show them who really wont the election and 'take our country back'.

That's where they get terrified.. there are enough brainless sheep MAGAts in unfortunate positions of power and... force.. that I don't know what to tell them.

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Reply A lot of my friends are terrified aobut 2020... (Original post)
Rosco T. Aug 14 OP
C_U_L8R Aug 14 #1
Rosco T. Aug 14 #9
C_U_L8R Aug 14 #16
Rosco T. Aug 14 #17
C_U_L8R Aug 14 #18
lunatica Aug 14 #38
Butterflylady Aug 15 #56
N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 15 #57
SoCalNative Aug 15 #86
lunatica Aug 15 #93
NCLefty Aug 17 #119
madinmaryland Aug 17 #125
marlakay Aug 15 #65
humbled_opinion Sunday #136
Greybnk48 Aug 15 #75
Aristus Aug 14 #22
brush Aug 14 #2
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #45
MFM008 Aug 15 #67
Fla Dem Aug 16 #110
FakeNoose Aug 15 #66
TheCowsCameHome Aug 14 #3
get the red out Aug 15 #59
GulfCoast66 Aug 14 #4
wasupaloopa Aug 14 #5
Rosco T. Aug 14 #8
doc03 Aug 14 #15
Brawndo Aug 14 #23
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #46
applegrove Aug 14 #6
Cosmocat Aug 15 #84
Cosmocat Aug 15 #85
HipChick Aug 14 #7
pangaia Aug 15 #68
Farmer-Rick Aug 15 #102
WinstonSmith4740 Aug 16 #116
hlthe2b Aug 14 #10
Rosco T. Aug 14 #12
hlthe2b Aug 14 #19
Stargazer09 Aug 15 #49
calimary Aug 16 #115
N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 15 #58
area51 Aug 15 #78
hlthe2b Aug 15 #79
Berlin Expat Aug 15 #94
hlthe2b Aug 15 #96
doc03 Aug 14 #11
Runningdawg Aug 15 #89
Kurt V. Aug 14 #13
BigmanPigman Aug 14 #14
Celerity Aug 14 #37
calimary Aug 16 #113
BigmanPigman Aug 16 #114
Bradshaw3 Aug 14 #20
pangaia Aug 15 #69
struggle4progress Aug 14 #21
renate Aug 14 #24
pansypoo53219 Aug 14 #25
Mme. Defarge Aug 14 #26
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #27
not_the_one Aug 14 #40
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #42
Turbineguy Aug 14 #28
GoneOffShore Aug 15 #71
mainstreetonce Aug 14 #29
empedocles Aug 14 #30
friend of m and j Aug 17 #128
GulfCoast66 Aug 14 #34
homegirl Aug 17 #124
empedocles Aug 17 #129
Texasgal Aug 14 #31
durablend Aug 15 #81
BlueTsunami2018 Aug 14 #32
stopbush Aug 14 #33
Polybius Aug 14 #35
Iggo Aug 14 #36
lunatica Aug 14 #39
Demonaut Aug 14 #41
ConnorMarc Aug 14 #43
ooky Aug 14 #44
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #47
myohmy2 Aug 14 #48
Ilsa Aug 15 #50
samnsara Aug 15 #51
Hoyt Aug 15 #52
ooky Aug 15 #77
vlyons Aug 15 #53
samnsara Aug 15 #54
procon Aug 15 #55
durablend Aug 15 #82
WVlaserguy Aug 15 #60
TryLogic Aug 15 #92
Revanchist Aug 15 #97
Agschmid Aug 15 #105
Tommy_Carcetti Aug 15 #61
ooky Aug 15 #74
GoCubsGo Aug 15 #62
rampartc Aug 15 #63
Gothmog Aug 15 #64
Gothmog Aug 15 #70
Hermit-The-Prog Aug 16 #109
murielm99 Aug 15 #72
Hortensis Aug 15 #76
elocs Aug 15 #73
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 17 #118
onetexan Aug 17 #126
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sunday #132
world wide wally Aug 15 #80
jalan48 Aug 15 #83
CTyankee Aug 15 #87
mwooldri Aug 15 #88
CTyankee Aug 15 #90
eppur_se_muova Aug 15 #91
Nasruddin Aug 16 #107
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 15 #95
ginnyinWI Aug 15 #98
friend of m and j Aug 17 #130
Proud Liberal Dem Aug 15 #99
last chance Aug 15 #100
TheRealNorth Aug 15 #101
Perseus Aug 15 #103
Nasruddin Aug 16 #108
Maru Kitteh Aug 15 #104
The Liberal Lion Aug 15 #106
IAMSPARTICUS Aug 16 #111
calimary Aug 16 #112
GulfCoast66 Aug 17 #117
calimary Aug 17 #122
GulfCoast66 Aug 17 #123
calimary Sunday #135
RhodeIslandOne Aug 17 #120
lastlib Aug 17 #121
OnDoutside Aug 17 #127
colorado_ufo Aug 17 #131
CTyankee Sunday #133
Harker Sunday #134
humbled_opinion Sunday #137
Capt. America Monday #138

Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:56 PM

1. There are more of us.

If they want another civil war, we'll gladly kick their asses all over again.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:01 PM

9. More of them have guns I think...

.. and are idiots enough to think that matters

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:11 PM

16. If they can lift themselves out of their mama's basement

These jokers would be winded walking up a flight of stairs.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:14 PM

17. I harken you to the immortal words of Han Solo

"Don't get cocky kid"

and the sage wisdom of Mel Brooks from "The Twelve Chairs"

"Hope for the best.... expect the worst"

(things I've heard from my friends when I try to use some of these same points with them)

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:16 PM

18. It's just so pleasurable to ridicule these dumbasses.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

38. Don't forget the oldsters with their walkers rushing our front lines!



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Response to lunatica (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:05 AM

56. Hey, our canes can do a lot of damage!!!!

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #56)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:17 AM

57. Yes, but only if you can get the tennis ball off...nt

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Response to lunatica (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:58 AM

86. And their Rascals

at least until they run out of juice.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #86)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:12 PM

93. The finest MAGATs!

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #86)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:09 AM

119. What chance that some socialist policy paid for those scooters?

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #86)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 05:19 PM

125. I bet you they got those electric scooter through Medicare and are collecting

Medicare as they ride down a public street.

Morons.

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:30 AM

65. If the military saw he lost

They would be on our side. Most don’t like him, he has made them unsafe all over the world.

My son n law is officer in air force and got conservative after his 3 years at pentagon about 9 years ago, he voted for Hillary though in last election not trusting Trump.

They are for Biden this time.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #65)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:22 PM

136. He remains the CINC

until a new President is inaugurated, the military can not take action inside the USA, we would be forced to rely on local law enforcement, we can only hope enough people would reject this action outright but if not then in fact there would be civil war.

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:44 AM

75. We have jets and tanks and flamethrowers and bombs and lots of soldiers. n/t

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:25 PM

22. And this time, I'm pretty sure the UK, France, and everyone else would jump in on our side.

Okay, maybe Poland and Saudi Arabia would help out the Trumpanzees, but everyone else would be glad to see him go.

It would be the Spanish Civil War all over again, only this time, the anti-fascists would win, because nearly every other nation on Earth would send their own 'Lincoln Brigade' to help us out.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:56 PM

2. Let him try to not leave if he loses. They'll drag his orange ass out of the WH so fast he won't...

even have time to lie.

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Response to brush (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

45. That's right! When the clock chimes noon EST on 1/20/21, he will leave because he will no longer

Be the illegitimate prez. Certainly his choice how he leaves, he can go quietly or an armed Secret service guard will, escort him out

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:47 AM

67. This

X 1000

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #45)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:36 AM

110. In the end, he's a wimp.

If he thought for a minute his life was in danger, or all his fraudulent enterprises, he would skulk out of the WH in the dead of night.
But yes he’d rile up his cult and would have plenty to say during the transition and forever about how the presidency was stolen from him.

Would put even money on him not showing up at the inauguration.

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Response to brush (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:31 AM

66. Yes I believe that

It's going to be unpleasant, for sure. But we will survive this and hopefully learn from it.
Chump is going down - and it's very important that we turn the Senate BLUE too!

I hope we're watching the demise of the Republican Party, because it doesn't deserve to continue after this.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:56 PM

3. I'm not worried, just as long as he loses.

Actually, I would enjoy seeing him being carried off to a mental institution, strapped to a gurney.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:41 AM

59. Same here!

When push comes to shove, most of the MAGA's are cowards who prefer to attack back to school shoppers in Walmart.

I wonder how a super-long tie would look with a straight-jacket?

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:57 PM

4. Tell them several things;

First and foremost ‘screw your courage to the sticking-place, and we will not fail.

Second. There will be a lot of dead MAGATs.


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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:57 PM

5. Nobody is going to take to the streets.

I don’t understand these kind of OP’s.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:59 PM

8. you really should re-think that opinion

I live in El Paso

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:10 PM

15. I think Trump will try and mobilize

his crazy ass supporters, there will defiantly be trouble.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:26 PM

23. Never do an enemy the courtesy of underestimating what they're capable of.

The body count from this maladministration's policies and rhetoric is growing.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

46. Oh I think everyone will be in the streets.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:57 PM

6. First thing that will happen is he will bond with his 37% base and do things to

keep them in his thrall forever. GOP will realize they will never regain control of those 37% they so tenderly cultivated to be dog whistle racists. Trump will save them for presidential candidate Ivanka and then Don Jr and then Barron. And he will win each nomination race because the Trumps will always start with 37%.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

84. yep

nm

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #84)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

85. This bandaid is going to have to get ripped off at some point

Shit would have gotten ugly like this if Hillary had won.

If he wins, we are literally fucked.

If he loses, it is going to be a shit show of some kind.

It is unavoidable.

This county is going to have to hit some kind of crisis point given that it has chosen to indulge its darkest spirits.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:59 PM

7. Concern noted...

The right said the same when Obama was elected..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:39 AM

68. But the right is insane...

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Response to HipChick (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:35 PM

102. And we said it when Obama defeated the GOP

And W/Cheney/Rove criminals. Remember how dumbfounded Rove looked on Fox when the GOP lost? He claimed we all had the wrong numbers......very strange.

But Traitor Trump is the only president who claimed to want to be president for life.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #102)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:44 PM

116. I remember that...

The look on Rove's face was epic.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:04 PM

10. Tell them to follow some of the twitter feeds frequented by neurologists

that constantly analyze and comment on his accelerating physical and cognitive decline/dementia. The most common proposed diagnosis is that he is suffering from frontotemporal dementia, which has a rapid progression. From his increasing facial ticks, his severe balance disorder, the frequent sweating, dilated pupils and nasal discharge suggestive of amphetamine use (which is sometimes used for certain stages of dementia--or may represent long term personal abuse) his bizarre sentence fragments, repetition, and disconnected thought patterns, there is clearly something wrong. And the betting among them is that he won't make it to the 2020 campaign.

I was raised to think it wrong to wish ill on anyone else, but if it is happening anyway, I say, take heart from that scenario--which would surely be the best thing for the country.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:07 PM

12. "And the betting among them is that he won't make it to the 2020 campaign. "

... and if they are wrong? All he has to do is last till November 5th. I see your point bit... I have to admit I'm worried too..

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:17 PM

19. Dementia if they are correct is not reversible.

His minders are increasingly unable to hide it, though it is pretty clear that that was the function of Ivanka and Jared on his last overseas trip.

He's grossly symptomatic to those who know what to look for. It will only take one major meltdown or full-blown loss of balance/collapse before the media can no longer keep their heads in the sand. Once there is "blood in the water", the Republican powers that be will have to step in because the MSM WILL not let go of the issue once exposed.

If you don't think Pence is secretly frothing at the chance, nor fail to realize that Niki Haley has been in Iowa near continually in recent weeks (ostensibly to support the candidacy of Joni Ernst, but many are questioning her "REAL" intent), then I don't know what to tell you...

Will some continue to try to cover for him as long as possible? No doubt, but they won't be able to indefinitely if these neurologists are right.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:59 AM

49. I am waiting for it to happen

He can barely stand upright now. It’s just a matter of time before he collapses in public.

I hope it happens soon, simply because he causes more harm to our country every single day that goes by.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:15 PM

115. Oh really?

Nikki Haley worries me.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:26 AM

58. Also raised to kind and think of no wrong for a person...

Buy my first thought every time I open a news feed on my pad ... “Is he dead yet?” Mostly disappointed although some day it’ll be one of the most joyous days.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:58 AM

78. Which twitter feeds, if you don't mind my asking? n/t

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Response to area51 (Reply #78)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

79. I'll pm you. I don't want to incite the "all twitter is conspiracy" crowd...

who seem to live to give grief to those who ever deign to post a tweet.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #79)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

94. If you could PM me

too, I'd appreciate it. I'm interested in what medical professionals have to say.

My mother died 15 years ago from a type of dementia - and yes, it went pretty quickly, three years from initial diagnosis to her passing away.

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Response to Berlin Expat (Reply #94)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:43 PM

96. Check your DU mail

I'm sorry about your Mom. I can only hope the future brings tremendous medical advances--perhaps in time for many of us.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:05 PM

11. You can bet it will get ugly if he loses. Or if

he wins even uglier.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

89. THIS 100%

If you aren't old enough to remember Ireland in the 80's, read some history so you will know what to expect. Also let me remind you a bunch of goat herders kicked the Russians ass first and they have been kicking ours in Afghanistan for the last 20 years.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:08 PM

13. he has consolidated power in critical areas to dispute the election.

That's why overwhelming turnout is so important

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:09 PM

14. I am 100% more afraid of him winning

than anything else.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:07 PM

37. +10000

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:57 PM

113. Yeah. So am I.

It’s just unthinkable!

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Response to calimary (Reply #113)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:14 PM

114. If that happens there may be mass suicides.

That happened when the market crashed in 1929. This would be even worse.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:20 PM

20. As Hakeem Jeffries said, we need to win big

Which is doable. Also remember, many repub officials think he's an incompetent fool, are sick of having to defend his idiocies and wish he would go away; they just can't say so in public.

I think most people just want him gone and he will have to leave. After all, they got all those judges through and a big tax cut, so the repubs will move on to a leader who is less racist (at least publicly so).

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:41 AM

69. "...they just can't say so in public. "

Of COURSE they can.
They are traitorous cowards.
And you know what the punishment for traitors SHOULD be.........

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:22 PM

21. The most powerful medicine for treating fear is doing something productive

They might just need to get off their butts

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:34 PM

24. I actually think the old-fashioned Republican establishment in Washington would be relieved

None of them are loyal to him; they only march to his tune because of his base. If they have an excuse to bail on him (and once the 2020 election is safely in the past and the next one two years away), they will be really happy to see him go and won't lift a finger to prevent it.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:33 PM

25. we have to win by a big margin.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:38 PM

26. Keep calm and GOTFV.

Overwhelming turnout.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:40 PM

27. Rec and Relax.

The little old white guy brigade is impotent.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:03 PM

40. hey!! I resemble that remark



And I AM going to vote.

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #40)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:07 PM

42. Sorry, bro.

But thanks for voting sir!

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:41 PM

28. When he loses the election

he'll be just another fat schmuck on the golf course.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #28)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:18 AM

71. Is there a golf course at Allenwood?

Asking for a friend.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:44 PM

29. I worry about when he is out of office

But my fears are not about him stirring up a civil war because he refuses to accept a loss.

I worry about an expresident who is on twitter,on fOX, and maybe on his own TV network 24/7.

I worry about him stirring up racial hate and hate for Dems who defeated him and working to get crazy people elected to Republican seats that come open.

Trump is going to be a danger to the country however long he lives.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:48 PM

30. trump is going to be a danger. Unless he is in . . . prison

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Response to empedocles (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 07:21 PM

128. It would take a long time to see him in prison.

I think he will cease being dangerous when he keels over dead from his bad health. Maybe it will be the bone spurs that get him. That would be real Karma.

I can't help but wonder that if he dies in office what his funeral ceremonies would be like. Maybe they would just cremate him.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:57 PM

34. That what republicans have been worried about since he declared his candidacy!

They knew they could use him to get what they want while in office. And they have although any other republican would also have delivered, most probably better.

But while many republican voters will suddenly forget they voted for him, a large percentage of their party will never be satisfied with anything less than the anger he gave him. It had the potential to destroy their party.

That group will never again vote for a Bush or McCain type again.

When Nixon and Reagan used the southern strategy to get the Wallace democrats to switch to republicans they never envisioned them actually taking over the party. They and the evangelicals have.

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 04:58 PM

124. New York state Marshall

will be waiting at the door to escort Trump to a holding cell prior to arraignment on money laundering charges.

I really expect Trump will not participate in the Inauguration ceremonies in January 2021. Not as a departing president. He will have fled the country, probably to Russia, no extradition agreement. Karma being such a bitch-Putin will have him executed within a year.


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Response to homegirl (Reply #124)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:02 PM

129. Quick holding cell, quick surefire conviction to keep in locked up . . . then trials for his

myriad crimes for the rest of his life. . . Hopefully

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:49 PM

31. I'm not worried.

I think most of us are level headed, even the repukes that voted for him. He will not win his re-election. He's a one hit wonder.

Sure, there may be a few thousand weirdos that freak out but all in all I think we'll be okay.

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Response to Texasgal (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:05 AM

81. A "few thousand" weirdos can cause a lot of chaos

Just sayin...

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:51 PM

32. I'm terrified that they've already fixed the election.

But being afraid of this scenario you’ve described is pretty silly in my opinion. If he loses he’ll pout and act the fool as usual but he’ll leave and go on to rake millions from the idiot cult. Whomever does win will give us the old “we need to look forward not back” line, nothing will happen to Тяцмр from a legal standpoint and we’ll go on as we have before. The GOP will obstruct anything meaningful and they’ll weasel their way back into power after a few years because Americans have incredibly short memories.

Same thing that always happens.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:52 PM

33. Remember, it's difficult for the gun-totting rubes to do much damage

outside their own neighborhoods as their cars are up on blocks in the front yard.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:04 PM

35. I worry more about him winning the election

n/t

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

36. We should be so lucky. (n/t)

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:14 PM

39. Tell them not to count the eggs before they hatch.

He might not last to the end of the year the way the House and the courts are gearing up.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:06 PM

41. don't worry, the country will come to its senses

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:20 PM

43. Not gonna happen.

It's more likely he'll get dragged away kicking and screaming by the appropriate authorities if he refused to get his fat ass up.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:28 PM

44. The MAGAts will go home as soon as the police arrive.

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Response to ooky (Reply #44)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:45 PM

47. Yes they will because they are a bunch of loud mouth, chicken shit traitors. They will go home,

Turn on fux and yell at the dog, kick the cat, scream at the kids, start a new fu..kbook page how 2020 was stolen.

After thought: when you see real patriots in the streets willing to be arrested and dragged off to jail, how many of them are gopeee magats?

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:51 PM

48. you're...

...creeping me out, man...

...your friends are getting me scared...

...MAGA! MAGA!

...just testin'...

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:43 AM

50. If the police mowed them down with some of that MIC

equipment now kept for SWAT ops, I wouldn't shed a tear.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:59 AM

51. i wanna see trump dragged off the grounds in handcuffs

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:00 AM

52. He'll leave in a huff, but he'll leave. Let's beat him at polls first.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

77. I expect him to leave the country to avoid prosecution sometime before inauguration day

if he loses.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:01 AM

53. Calm yourself and your friends down

Don't spread fear scenarios.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:02 AM

54. he will tell his fans to subscribe to his tv channel and he will make more $ of the poor..

maggots..and they will get a daily dose of his ranting and raving. THATS what scares me. Hes less controllable as a private citizen.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:03 AM

55. If past is prolog, nothing will happen.

Just look a the number of timed that various rightwing groups announced they were staging the biggest protest ever seen on the U.S. capital. There were truckers, gunners, fetus lovers, coal or bust, no to healthcare, the South will live forever, mandatory religionists, whatever.

They made a lot of promises, racked in some fundraising cash, sent out emails and when their big event day rolled around... Crickets. A handful of human chaff showed up with or without teeth and dressed in their traditional costumes, with misspelled signage and large beverage containers in hand. They chanted their slogans a few times for the photo up before walking back to McDonalds to catch the next bus back home.

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Response to procon (Reply #55)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:14 AM

82. The problem with your theory

You're talking about some mass protest in one place...yeah that's a bit far-fetched. OTOH a bunch of lone-wolf idiots can cause a lot of chaos if they decide to start shooting up places.

Not saying people should be terrified to go anywhere but just sticking your head in the sand figuring they're all going to be singing "kumbaya" if their leader is tossed out isn't the wise thing to do either.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:44 AM

60. End lame duck period

Here lies one of my issues: the lame duck session. I feel certain that the inauguration, and the lame duck session are a carry over from the days when people traveled by horseback. I don't see any reason why newly elected officials can't be installed within days. If we want to hold a formal "inauguration", that's fine, but get the losers out of office and remove their authority as soon as possible.

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Response to WVlaserguy (Reply #60)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:01 PM

92. That sounds like a good idea. A very good idea.

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Response to WVlaserguy (Reply #60)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:18 PM

97. The incoming president needs time to finalize their staff.

You need to give people time to leave whatever job they might be doing and get up to speed on their new duties. That doesn't even take security clearances into account. Two months sounds reasonable.

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Response to Revanchist (Reply #97)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:39 PM

105. Yup.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:46 AM

61. I'd give this about a 5% chance of happening

Which may seem very low but actually is alarmingly high considering the context.

Any other president I’d give less than a 0.1 % chance of this happening.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #61)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

74. His partisan court is his only chance, and that is very low, although

I would be considerably more concerned if they were to get another right wing judge on the court between now and then and Roberts isn't in position to block them from making him dictator.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:47 AM

62. They should be more terrified of the coming economic crash.

You thought 2008 was bad? It will be a cakewalk compared to what's coming if we don't get rid of this brain-dead imbecile.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:51 AM

63. are you so sure the courts and congress do not support his ridiculous claims

as they did for gw bush.

who would have thought that Kerry, or gore, would not put up more of a legal challenge?

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:27 AM

64. We need to win by a large majority to discourage this possibility

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:10 AM

70. trump supporters are scary assholes

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #70)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:47 AM

109. 18 U.S. Code s2383, s2385


18 U.S. Code § 2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383


18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:21 AM

72. I like the way everyone is being reassuring here.

I think there will be some unrest and some damage. Unfortunately, there may be some more mass shooting.

Most of the damage is being done by trump and his friends right now. That will take years to undo.

Let them be terrified. Some of them will be in jail where they can do no more damage.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #72)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:44 AM

76. :) +100. We have a job to do, so we'll do it.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

73. I also think Trump will cause trouble in the months after he loses.

I think he will incite and inflame his followers
(candidates have supporters, cult leaders have followers) to the point they will hurt and/or kill people because of his loss.
But I guess it's easy to be flippant and dismissive of that possibility as long as it's not you or anyone you know or care for who is hurt.
How many people would need to be hurt or killed by Trump's followers before it's no longer considered to be a joke?

I don't think there necessarily will be an all out civil war, but there could be Trump follower terrorism. Trump will also create as much mischief as possible in his final months with executive orders and pardons, and he still will have access to the nuclear football.

This is not going to be pretty.

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Response to elocs (Reply #73)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 02:20 AM

118. He will cause trouble for years after he loses, and years after he dies.

He is the leader of a cult, and the MAGAts have drunk the Kool-Aid.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #118)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 05:41 PM

126. He'll be behind bars, there he can cause all the trouble he wants

And get his butt kicked

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Response to onetexan (Reply #126)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:17 AM

132. I think "kicked" is optimistic.

My hope is the prisoners will do to him what he's been doing to our country.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:05 AM

80. The only ones that may get violent are the usual maggots: Nazis, the KKK and a few deranged

gun boy whackos.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

83. It's possible only not as clear cut as we see it. Multiple problems with voting machines

in areas where Trump loses would be used as the reason to suspend the peaceful turnover of power to the Democrats until "recounts" determine the winner. The public will be more worried about football season results after the shock wears off to do anything meaningful. Trump has been committing one outrageous act after another since assuming office and look where we are today, we can't even muster enough Democrats to vote for his impeachment in the House.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:03 PM

87. I don't think an executive order can negate the

election once it is all certified. And he won't be able to get his message to the MAGAts. If he tries what you suggest he will be stopped. His MAGAts are full of it and have no real guts.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

88. I'm more concerned with him "winning" again.

There's enough people who will still vote for him and enough red States to make the contest close. He won't win the popular vote but the electoral college is still up for grabs. The bright red States may be a lost cause but purple states and even maroon states like Texas should be hard fought over.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #88)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:24 PM

90. All the more reason for us to have an Electoral vote strategy. We have to develop a plan specially

designed for those states. Find out their specific reasons for voting for him (if many still do) and get a plan together to win them over.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:42 PM

91. If his successor is duly certified by the Electoral College, Secret Service Personnel ...

... will escort him from the White House at the appointed hour. He may skip the inauguration of his successor, he may claim he's not leaving, but Secret Service will do their job. Count on it. They have sworn to fulfill their duty to protect the Constitution, even if Anus Orange does not.

Oh, and don't believe for a minute the Marines will not see to it that he departs on Marine One on schedule, free or in handcuffs, maybe his choice but maybe not.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #91)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:12 AM

107. If his successor is duly certified by the Electoral College,

That's the big if.

He (his handlers) will sue in critical states and/or federal court to prevent votes being finalized and not allow the electors to vote. This should sandbag the election into a disastrous vote in the House (check out how this is to be done). His backstop is his pet supreme court.

Kind of a reverse Bush v Gore.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:22 PM

95. "... what will happen when he loses."

I'm worried I might put my eye out opening that bottle of Champagne-style sparkling wine I've kept in the kitchen since the second week of January 2017.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:24 PM

98. But he will be a lame duck and ripe to be drop-kicked out by even the GOPers in the Congress.

They can use the 25th Amendment finally.

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Response to ginnyinWI (Reply #98)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:30 PM

130. He has to have a real Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment.

The number of Senate confirmed Cabinet members seems to change day to day. The last time I looked of the 15 Cabinet members 5 of the 15 were "Acting Secretaries" and there was rumors that 3 more Senate approved Cabinet members would by replaced shortly by Acting Secretaries.

Trump has said he likes "Acting Officials" because it gives him more flexibility. (Translation; he can fire them whenever he wants).

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:28 PM

99. As bad as things are

I do not think Trump will successfully be able to launch a coup. He will most certainly throw a tantrum and he and his minions will try to do as much damage on the way out as he can but he will not be able to have so thoroughly corrupt and destroy our institutions to the point that they will all back down and support him in his efforts to remain in power. I just don't see it happening.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:53 PM

100. Trump's plan

Trump will do any thing you can think of to stay in office. If reelected his next step will be to declare him self president for life. If I remember he has hinted at that thought before.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:08 PM

101. Hope for the best

Prepare for the worst.

People that are thinking the Rule of Law will prevail are forgetting that State Legislators choose the electors for the Electoral College and I have No confidence that Republican legislatures in WI, MI, OH, NC. VA, or elsewhere would not disregard the popular vote for the Democratic candidate in their state if the base was ready to back them up.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:32 PM

103. That is when you will find out how loyal to the country the military is

If their oath to protect the country against foreign and domestic enemies and they uphold to it then I am not worried, that should not last long, but if on the other hand their loyalty lies somewhere else? Then things will get very ugly for everyone.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #103)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:15 AM

108. They will obey their commander in chief

And I don't think they will see an incoming Democrat as that person.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:38 PM

104. a LOT of your friends? GOOD. Tell them to turn that fear into ACTION and DO SOMETHING.

Give (if they can) to voter drives in swing states - or contribute their own time to the cause.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:54 PM

106. I happen to be one of those who can't see trump leaving the White House peacefully.

That is of course assuming that the election isn't once again stolen by Putin. That being said I'm not terrified, I just think that's the way it will play out. We shall see.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:03 PM

111. be scared...get prepared

i have no doubt we're going to have a civil war. what it looks like, i don't know. but guess who has all the guns and has been itchin' to use 'em?

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:40 PM

112. My husband fully expects that if trump loses, he'll refuse to concede,

Then he’ll declare it all fake news, insist it was all rigged, and declare martial law.

What worries me is the three-legged stool is f Pox Noise/hate radio/deplorables who’ll believe it, rage all over the airwaves, and incite all kinds of violence from coast-to-coast. It may give a whole new meaning to that “American carnage” theme of his.

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Response to calimary (Reply #112)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 12:02 AM

117. There is no 'Martial Law' in America.

Because of our federal system. How would one even go about that? Use the FBI? Hell, they couldn’t control New Jersey.

There will be no Martial Law. And Democrats will control the house.

Even here in Florida. It Trump loses the state the Electors will vote for the Democratic Party in the college. The Governor nor legislator will not impede the will of their voters in this matter.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #117)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:59 PM

122. Reality-based thinking is not something that trump ever chose to embrace.

There are oodles of conventions and laws and guidelines and guardrails in our federal system. He's never let that stop him. He's blown through all of them. He'd declare martial law ANYWAY. Especially if he thought it made him look strong 'n' ballsy to the lowest-common-denominator swamp-thing mentality that makes up his base.

With all due respect (seriously!), we're not talking about somebody who understands or accepts or accedes to what's legal or moral or any such thing. Don't think for a minute that he wouldn't just go ahead and do it anyway, no matter who advised him against it or told him we don't do it that way or it's against the law or there's no such thing. I mean, look at the whole Greenland thing, for just one example.

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Response to calimary (Reply #122)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 04:43 PM

123. Oh, I don't doubt he would declare it. But nothing would happen.

Because there is nothing that can happen. The states are sovereign in their own way and they would just ignore him.

Until they hauled him out of the White House.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #123)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 07:29 PM

135. Well, if it's up to the states, I dread the thought of how the red states will respond.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 07:33 AM

120. The MAGAtts will do shit.

I suppose Trump will refuse to concede, and likely attempt to tons of lame duck judicial appointments with the help of the lame turtle Senate. A few more incels will shoot up places in support of their Orange Dickless Wonder. But most will sink into the shadows like the cowards they are. They will no longer be emboldened.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:05 AM

121. All I know is, on Jan. 20, 2021, I'll be there.....

...to help drag his fat arse OUT of our White House! If I have to wear body armor to do it, so be it.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 06:27 PM

127. So the corollary to that is you want Trump to win ?

It's a binary choice.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:14 PM

131. Since he can't even fire anyone face to face, what I think will really happen if he loses

is that he will host a giant rally, say the election was rigged, etc., and then tell them because he "only had one term" that he was eligible to run again. He would then pass out t-shirts with Trump 2024 on them and start campaigning all over again. More chances to have his "fun" rallies, more time to sucker Russia for more money, more time to put Putin's plans in place.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:13 AM

133. Nah. The way the world ends will be not with a bang, but with a whimper.

apologies to t.s. eliot...

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:13 AM

134. He's addicted to fawning crowds.

He'll continue to hold his for-profit fascist rallies, and get a huge advance for his "Art of the Screw-over" ghostwritten "memoir."

I expect that he'll be a poisonously disruptive shill for the rest of his life.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:30 PM

137. Most important thing then is

for the Democratic candidate to win in an un-contestable landslide. A close election this time around will tear this country apart.

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Response to Rosco T. (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:16 AM

138. I think if Trump loses he will resign during the lame duck period and have Pence

pardon him for his crimes.

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