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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:52 AM

I KNOW this sounds crazy, but ...

… please hear me out. I first had this thought last fall, and I think I might be onto something.

I believe that the powers-that-be in the Republican party want Trump gone.

When they first elected him, I’m sure they saw him as a political rube, someone who could be easily manipulated into doing their bidding due to his lack of political experience, along with an obvious lack of any real enthusiasm for the job.

No doubt he was seen as what he was – a bloviating con artist who could sell the GOP agenda to their low-info, low-IQ ‘base’, while doing what he was told by party higher-ups. He was going to be their ‘president-in-name-only’, a lazy-assed grifter who’d be satisfied with acting the part between golf games.

They’d paved the way for him – getting Evangelical leaders on board who gladly convinced their sheep that a thrice-married adulterer was a good Christian man, tidying up his past as a liar and a cheat by passing him off as a self-made billionaire, convincing Republican voters that the prosperity he had personally achieved would translate into untold success and riches for them as well.

Trump’s nude model wife, Melania, was sold as a model First Lady. Ivanka, Jared, Don Junior and Eric were touted as trusted advisors, despite knowing absolutely nothing about domestic or foreign policy. And the base lapped it up.

It was all so easy-as-pie perfect, a movie script written by a GOP that saw the destruction of the environment, the dismantling of our democracy, and the distancing of our nation’s allies as a means to their ends.

What could possibly go wrong – other than everything?

Once ensconced in the Oval Office, the man the Republican party had dismissed as their puppet turned out to be Putin’s puppet instead – the problem being that he was blatantly obvious about it. The Republican higher-ups that had imagined a pOTUS who’d restrict his word-salad meanderings to anecdotal tales about his alleged prowess on the links were now saddled with a ‘stable genius’ prone to hissy-fits, thousands of ludicrous lies, and public meltdowns. The candidate they’d championed as a man-of-the-people exposed himself as being a man out for himself – the people and the party that supported him be damned.

The PTB in the GOP know that Trump is unelectable to a second term. They know that he has done incredible damage to their ‘brand’. They know that his disapproval numbers are a death knell – and they know that bell tolls for them.

The Mueller report, children in cages, racist rhetoric that led to the deaths of innocents, “very fine people on both sides”, the endless litany of easily-debunked lies, the refusal to believe our own intelligence agents over Putin’s ‘word for it’, paid-off porn stars, meetings with Russian agents about ‘adoptions’, Middle East peace plans concocted by a know-nothing, debt-ridden son-in-law, the ‘very best people’ ending up in prison, Republicans perjuring themselves, the exploded deficit, tariffs that are bankrupting farmers, hate crimes and mass shootings on the rise, a shaky stock market, the distrust of our allies – and the blatant stupidity of a “pResident” who thinks wind turbines cause cancer, and claims the Revolutionary War was won because the colonists shut down the airports in 1775.

As devoted as the Republicans have been in their attempts to defend the indefensible, there comes a time when you realize that your “pResident” has effectively destroyed your party’s chances of winning the votes of Hispanic “rapists”, Muslim “terrorists”, people from “shithole countries”, parents appalled by children in cages, Christians who actually embrace the teachings of Christ, women who want the right to choose, decent people who want assault weapons off our streets, people with morals who don’t want a self-proclaimed pussy-grabber in the White House, and those who don’t want people designated as security risks operating without security clearances that give them valid access to our country’s classified information.

The Trump supporters that are left are just that – Trump supporters rather than GOP supporters. There aren’t enough of them to secure his re-election, and the Republicans know that.

I believe the GOP have abandoned all hope of seeing their fair-haired boy elected to a second term. But at this point, they have no choice but to play along to get along. Offering primary challengers to The Dotard would be an admission that the idiot they’d foisted on their own party was a monumental mistake – and they’re not about to own up to that particular catastrophe. They have no alternative than to dance with the idiot who brought them to the electoral prom, knowing that he’s the guy most likely to shit in the punchbowl before the band finishes their final set.

Trumpism is over, it’s done, and the only people keeping it on life-support are those who simply have no alternative but to pretend that imminent disaster is just part of the same hoax being promoted by such ne’er-do-wells as scientists, economists, political analysts, historians – and the well-educated, well-informed intellectual nut-jobs who give credence to their dire warnings.

The Republican PTB are tired of coming up with creative explanations for their “pResident’s” insanity – and it shows.

The forever-faithful pundits still turn up on the news shows – but looking like they’re facing a firing squad instead of those cameras they were once convinced they could seduce into submission.

Even the Evangelicals are having second thoughts about Trump being the Second Coming – and everyone knows that those ongoing investigations into the Trump Crime Family aren’t going to end in "total vindication, total exoneration!" no matter how many times Twitler tweets exactly that.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t do everything possible to get the vote out. We still have a fight on our hands, and all able-minded soldiers are expected to do their part.

But I do believe that our enemies in the GOP have taken as much from Trump as they can swallow. They are watching their party being decimated, their ‘brand’ being trampled into the mud, and their once-touted ‘principles’ being exposed as non-existent.

The party that now spends its every waking hour trying to spin that ridiculous pile of straw that is Trump into gold are hearing the name Rumpelstiltskin louder and louder with every passing day – and they’re as tired of defending this bullshit as we are of hearing it.

They want him gone, maybe as much as we do – or even more so, because it’s not our party that’s being destroyed every time he opens his mouth, it’s theirs.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:04 AM

1. i'm afraid it's wishful

Don't forget they have their monstrous propaganda machine going 24/7, they know how to cheat, and they are willing to be helped by any foreign actor who wants the U.S. damaged. There is also the RW billionaire class they've nurtured since the days of Rotten Ronnie, with trickle-down and deregulation mania.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:45 PM

18. I see no sign that they're maneuvering to get rid of him. So they're OK with him.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:42 PM

24. First time I ever disagree with nancrant.

I think I have a more likely scenario:

Okay picture this: In some small group of Republicans somewhere that are running this show from the shadows.......
(Think about it people, Trump, McConnell etc don't have the brain matter to have organized and orchestrated this. Think Cheney Rumsfeld etc? I mean really people, have you heard anything from those people since Trump got elected??????) They, or a similar group of no-gooders, all met quietly and designed this whole thing while the Clinton period delayed them: think PNAC. Anyone re-read that recently???????? Then they illegally pirated the election from Gore and Kerry with the assistance of their Supreme Court and Diebold voting machines, then they installed themselves and all took over the Federal Gov't and rolled out all their 60+ year old wet dreams one right after the other. The massive upset by Obama delayed them, but the successfully thwarted anything and everything he tried to do.

Anyway, imagine this going on right now somewhere: "they" are all gathered in some remote clandestine back room and talking: "Okay, this is about to spin completely out of control.....a complete conflagration of the "pseudo" American Democracy. We have literally shoved thru a TON of our wish list agenda these past years while we used Trump to divert the people and extremely Republican owned mass media's attention away from our skulking around in the shadows and getting things done out of public sight. We need to figure out, before we kick Trump and his entire family and advisers and appointees etc to the curb, what are the most important things we need to get done in the shadows before we lower the boom on him. What are the most important remaining items, and how quickly can we direct Mitch and the Republican owned senate to get it done, then do it. We will con Mitch to doing whatever we want and then kick him and a bunch of other Trump following Republican Senators to the curb also......."

Once that is done we can drop the bomb on Trump, tell the Republican voters that WE are the heroes for seeing the problem and acting on it, getting back our mainstream republican voters (and Trumpites). We quickly install Pence and appoint a similar politician to the VP then have him quickly replace any and all the people Trump has put into power with the ones we want for the long term. It will be months to rig the election and we then have eight more years plus of near tyranny guaranteed........We will still have the Senate, and can con the masses once again to give us the House.......Several Supreme Court Judges will be retiring or croaking, so we will be able to guarantee a full house for unanimous decisions for decades to come. We also will be able to preserve the thousand things we have already shoved thru and tons more with the use of "executive order" which our Supreme Court will uphold.......

"Of course, we will have to do this covertly with great secrecy. Clue in the secret service, the military, etc etc etc in advance
If Trump gets wind of this, he is such a narcissistic psychopath he will quickly grab the "football" and think: Okay I'll show you MF'ers to double cross me. Screw the earth and all you assholes. If I'm going down, I'm taking all you and the world down as my last great feat.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:19 AM

2. I think it is more that they know he is failing

and by failing, I mean physically and mentally failing. They know he's in the early stages of dementia, and they know he's a nonstarter for 2020, but they have to walk a careful line right now. Look for Nikki Haley to become more visible in the next few months, as the chosen successor.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:33 AM

3. It's too late.

GOP support - no matter how tepid - for anyone other than Trump would be seen as an admission of guilt for electing The Dotard in the first place.

The GOP has painted itself into a corner from which there is no escape. It's Trump or nobody - and that will be their undoing.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 06:20 AM

7. They might not be able to dump Trump, but they can certainly dump Pence, and Nikki Haley...

as potential President if and when Trump is impeached or disabled, would be an ideal counter for Harris or Warren on our ticket.

Not ideal for us, but at least marginally better for the country if we don't win next year.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 06:46 AM

8. She's been in Iowa, ostensibly to support Joni Ernst, but....

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:41 AM

5. I deleted because I wrote something without coffee. You are, as always, correct in your analysis

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:51 AM

6. I agree

They know the end is near, thats why turtleface is pushing their candidates for federal judgeships thru the senate. Your rite we have to keep on our toes and get that vote out so outside influences can't get away with what they did the last time. As far as the media is concerned they will keep making it a horse race because the don't want the gravy train to end.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:07 AM

9. If the GOP does NOT abandon trump, the GOP May be destroyed

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:23 AM

10. Proof: Sanford is running against Trump.

If Sanford follows through, and reduces Trumps total just by 10 percent, then it really looks like Trump cannot win. Voting for Sanford will give them an out instead of voting for a democrat. If Sanford does indeed follow through, he will get plenty of money from establishment pukes who want Trump out ASAP. Trump is a lying asshole and everyone knows it. That is who is the leader of the puke party.
...If republicans loose 30 seats in the House and lose control of the Senate and loose the presidency to a democrat, and destroy Trump forever, the 3 loses will be worth it. It will give the pukes time to recover for 2026. If Trump wins, and continues..then the puke party will have nothing to recover from in 2026.
...But, Trump will indeed lose. The only one who doesn't know it, is Donald Trump

CNN: Republican Warns Trump that A Big Storm is Coming:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/13/mark-sanford-donald-trump-big-storm-coming-sot-vpx-lead.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:29 AM

11. Love your analysis and I truly hope you're right.

There's only one thing that worries me:

1. Aren't the Republicans getting exactly what they've always dreamed of from Trump and

2. That he's redesigning our Democracy so it's harder for the Republicans to lose, something even Republicans, up until now, have been unable or afraid to do.

EDIT: Why are so many people who you'd think would know better throwing so much money at Trump if deep down they know he can't win?

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:03 AM

12. They will let him run again and try to steal the election with help from putin

That is their only chance.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:18 AM

13. great writing. Thanks!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:43 AM

14. Republican leadership is komplicit with kompromat AND they're helping Russia steal 2020

I'm growing more convinced this isn't even about Dems v Republicans. It's Russia v western democracy. Putin has been playing a long game and has been working to undermine western societies for decades.

Trump suits that purpose just fine. Republicans are already bought and paid for. They're all complicit. Top leadership Rs aren't even hiding their trips/obeisance to Russia anymore (personally I don't even believe the tag #MoscowMitch rankles that fucking traitor)

I just hope we have enough turnout to swamp the voting algorithms they'll use to steal 2020. There's going to be rioting post-election, severe and bloody I'm afraid. It would help if the Dem candidate wins overwhelmingly.

The Republican party is utterly and supremely corrupt. They're not patriots and are committed to riding the #TraitorInChief train to the bitter end

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:33 AM

15. An odd thought occurred to me while reading this.

I wonder if MAGATS are now cheering for the Russian Police at the demonstrations in Moscow.
My, how things have changed.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:49 AM

16. They may be sick of him,

but they propped up Saint Ronnie when his mind failed. As long as there is an (R) behind their names, they support their guy. Personally, and I pray I am wrong, I think all the preservatives in the fast food tRump wolfs down is keeping his lard ass going. He is repulsive, despicable, ignorant, clueless, classless and a huge disaster. Still, people claimed that they voted AGAINST Hillary, why are there not hordes of people saying they will vote against Fat Donnie?

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:54 PM

22. It's not a matter of being 'sick of him'.

He's destroying their chances of staying in power. Even at his most mentally feeble, St. Ronnie wasn't putting kids in cages, wasn't distancing our allies, wasn't encouraging violence and racism, wasn't kow-towing to our enemies - the list goes on and on. And now the economy is going sour.

The PTB in the GOP may be evil - but they're not stupid. They see the same polls we do, where Dems are polling better than Trump. They know he's not re-electable - and if he were re-elected, they'd be facing four more years of having to put out the dumpster fires he ignites every single day.

The first week of Trump's "pResidency" was spent trying to defend his ludicrous comments about his inauguration crowd. Since then, they've had to defend Russian collusion, porn star payoffs, taking Putin's word over our own intelligence agencies, emoluments, and the endless lies - and so much more.

Republicans like to play offense - and they've been forced to play defense on a daily basis - and they know it's only going to get worse. Eventually all of the investigations into Trump and his family are going to bear fruit - which means even MORE disasters that have to be defended.

I think the Repubs have given up on the WH, and will be focusing on congressional and senate races in hopes of rendering the next Dem president as politically weak as possible.

They've got what they wanted from Trump - two SC judges and other judges, weakening of environmental legislation that hurts corporate profits, a huge tax cut for the wealthy, etc. But they paid a high price for it by having to continually protect a "pResident" who is destroying their 'brand' every time he opens his mouth. At this point, he's just not worth it anymore.



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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:27 PM

17. Except for one thing

McConnell and others in the GOP leadership are either owned by, and/or being blackmailed by Russia or Trump, so they won't send him packing, whether they like him or not.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:06 PM

19. They don't think they care about the GOP--it's about their money.

For the rich, it's keeping their money and making more. For the poor and middle class, it's about the hope of future riches. They have a mantra, which is that anything that hurts business hurts everybody. Trickle down and all that crap.

They will do and say whatever it takes to keep their guy in power, even though he's been so spectacularly bad.

If they were smart, they'd look at stats of past presidents and realize it's the Dems that know how to build a strong economy.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 05:46 PM

20. This article could have been written in the fall of 2016.

Trump's level of support, although low, has remained rock-steady with all the crap he's done. All the Republicans have to do is to rat-f*** their way to a squeaker in the Electoral College and they're deterined to get that done, no matter how many people they have to Epstein.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:44 PM

21. Great post. I sincerely hope you're right. You may well be.

But in the twilight zone world we live in today, I Don’t know what’s up and what’s down these days.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:28 AM

23. But, they are going to cheat with the electronic voting machines and change the

vote tallies to give them the advantage, I’m afraid. Perhaps if we vote in big enough numbers we stand a chance. It all feels so hopeless. I wonder if Ivanka will have her brand of voting machines(?) installed before the election next year. Heaven help us.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:19 PM

25. The assholes want to just cut their losses and let him go

So he didn’t give them absolutely everything they wanted. So? At least they all got their permanent tax cuts. They can live with that.

Do I sound bitter? Good! Because I am. Just that wealth alone has left millions destitute.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:36 PM

26. Exactly.

They've hit the point of zero returns with this fucker. After he's gone, they'll pretend he never happened.

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