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Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:31 PM

Politics 'He gets it': Evangelicals aren't turned off by Trump's first term

For many, the eight years of the Obama administration felt like a nightmare. The indelible image for the Rev. Chris Gillott was the night the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the land and Obama flooded the White House in rainbow lights.

“I didn’t see it lit up in a rainbow this June,” the youth pastor at Christian Life Center in Bensalem, Pa., notes, with a hint of satisfaction.

Gillott perceived, during the Obama administration, a newly hostile attitude toward Christians in America that left him worried his country was changing irrevocably. “If you think marriage is between one man and one woman, you’re a bigot and we don’t need you in this country,” he summarized what he saw as the thinking of Democrats. “There is animus being attributed to Christian core beliefs. And where that’s coming from is the left.”

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For many, abortion was the defining issue of the last election. In Appleton, Wis., the Rev. A.J. Dudek sat with several leaders of men’s Bible study groups recently in his megachurch’s huge curving lobby.

“Do I enjoy his tweets? No,” Dudek said about the president. But he believes the agenda far outweighs that concern. “If Donald Trump will help save a couple million babies, that’s a good thing. My vote has to align with my view of God’s word — I should care for the baby in the womb.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/evangelicals-arent-turned-off-by-trumps-first-term--theyre-delighted-by-it/2019/08/11/3911bc88-a990-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html

During a Sunday in July when Trump spent the morning tweeting that four congresswomen of color — three of whom were born in the United States — should “go back” to the countries “from which they came,” many white evangelicals attending church in Florida said immigration is their top priority. They almost unanimously approved of Trump’s handling of the border.

“If you are coming to America and you are in one of our facilities being held, that’s on you,” said Andrea Owen, a retired police officer who spends most days babysitting her autistic great-nephew. “I’m not trying to be hateful because we’re all God’s people. But do it legally. . . . The places they’re housing them? Honestly, if they’re so uncomfortable, they shouldn’t have come here.”

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Reply Politics 'He gets it': Evangelicals aren't turned off by Trump's first term (Original post)
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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:39 PM

1. All this energy to write about the bigots that support him

It’s like some of us Americans simply refuse to understand this had been in front of us, front and center actually the entire time. Evangelicals, farmers, loggers, anyone community that tends to support Trump are not mysterious. They’re disgusting bigots and racists and anti-choice to the point they’d rather see women dead than have reproductive rights.

They are not going to change, or waver in their core beliefs. Some few might get embarrassed or disgusted enough to turn away from Trump, but not near the numbers that should, just out of decency.

They offer no excuse.

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Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:41 PM

2. Nazis weren't turned off by Hitler

But the rest of us were.

Should we have taken the Nazis' side?

Considered their feelings?

That's what we're constantly being told to do now.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:38 PM

9. "That's what we're constantly being told to do now."

That's the big problem. Ever since trump "won," the media has been obsessed about what his fans "want" as if it had to be catered to. It's a way of handing them veto power over everything and that's where we are. To take one example, 80% or more of the country has been clamoring for sane gun control for many years, yet it won't go anywhere because of the "wants" of a small sliver of people. Even democratic policy proposals are reported through this lens. It's quite remarkable. The media is actually perpetuating the status quo of minority rule. Of course, it doesn't help matters that the apparent filter through which any potential candidate for president must pass is a sparsely-populated rural state while 80% of the country's population lives in urban centers.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:43 PM

3. Wow! Just wow.

I didn’t know what racist, misogynistic, POSs they could be. What’s most amazing is how they have managed to twist the Bible to support what they believe.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:16 PM

4. Loss of privilege is many times viewed as oppression....

For instance, the privilege of forcing your mythological bullshit on the rest of us.

Oh, and Jesus didn't say word one about abortion. The only thing the Old Testament says is if you kill a woman's unborn child, you owe her husband some cash. Unless, of course you kill the woman, then it's death penalty city.....Exodus 21:22

So, from someone raised in the fundigelical faith, but with just enough sense to chuck it in the garbage....here's a hardy FUCK YOU!!

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Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:26 PM

5. Can't fix stupid!!

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Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:30 PM

6. I wish I could say I was shocked by this.

But, nothing these assholes say or do surprises me anymore. And, yes, Mr. Gillott. You ARE a bigot, and a hypocrite of the worst sort. If Jesus came back and saw what you the rest of the so-called "Christians'" of your ilk were doing and saying in his name, he'd puke his guts out.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:34 PM

7. "I should care for the baby in the womb."

Just not the brown ones in cages.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:34 PM

8. "I should care for the baby in the womb"

The baby in the cage? That little pischer is on his own!

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