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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:01 PM

"Here's to fun times" in Moscow...

Fun times indeed. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's 448-page report highlights three separate proposals to develop a Trump property in Moscow around the time of the election. Yet key details have remained vague. Forbes got in touch with the people at the center of all three—and uncovered concrete answers to fundamental questions about Trump's plans in Russia.

Such as who was actually going to pay for the project. Trump, now more of a licensor than builder, certainly wasn't planning on putting in much of his own money. And according to Sater, who brokered the proposal that extended furthest into the campaign, nor was Trump's official partner, Andrey Rozov. Instead, Sater says, he was cooking up a plan to raise huge sums from additional investors, including two of Vladimir Putin's closest cronies, Boris and Arkady Rotenberg. "We would have gone to them and asked them for four or five hundred million dollars cash," Sater says.

Another big, previously unsettled question: How much money could Trump have made in all of this? Both Mueller and former Trump attorney Michael Cohen have suggested, vaguely, "hundreds of millions." After mining business agreements and surveying real estate experts in Moscow, however, Forbes believes that's almost impossible. It seems more likely that Trump would have walked away with roughly $35 million up front and $2.6 million or so in annual fees, if everything went according to plan. In the rosiest of scenarios, Sater says, Trump could have gotten about $50 million.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/05/23/the-truth-behind-trump-moscow-how-the-president-risked-everything-for-a-relatively-tiny-deal/#5439d9a2bc32

The headline of this Forbes article is "The Truth Behind Trump Tower Moscow: How Trump Risked Everything For A (Relatively) Tiny Deal." And, by attempting to con an ex-KGB agent and rob two of his friends, Trump has essentially "risked everything." Does anyone else plan to con or rob an ex-KGB agent? They are similar to CIA and MI6 agents: They never truly retire from their respective agencies.



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real Cannabis calm Aug 12 OP
Kid Berwyn Aug 12 #1
real Cannabis calm Aug 12 #2
bdamomma Aug 12 #3
real Cannabis calm Aug 12 #5
bdamomma Aug 12 #6
real Cannabis calm Tuesday #7
bdamomma Tuesday #9
real Cannabis calm Tuesday #10
UTUSN Aug 12 #4
real Cannabis calm Tuesday #8

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:28 PM

1. Trump thinks of three things...

His putter.
A cheeseburger.
Someone else’s credit card.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/trumps-mind-only-focuses-on-a-putter-a-cheeseburger-and-someone-elses-credit-card-trump-biographer/

The Trump Tower project looks like a real estate version of “The Producers.” Sater asks each oligarch to “invest” far more money than the project is worth. Cohen reports to the boss all is bigly. And Putin strings Dump along to get him into the Oval Office under his thrall.

Thank you for a great post!

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:47 PM

2. thanks. I'm sick of this Trump/ Putin crap, especially...

Since Trump has custom-made knee-pads for his unprecedented (and unpresidential) visits to North Korea.

Here we see Trump saluting a North Korean general, who was simply planning to shake his hand.
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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:57 PM

3. Look at that imbecile

it looks like he and Kim have "who has a bigger stomach" competition.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:33 PM

5. Trump won and didn't have to lie about winning, for a change.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:37 PM

6. ...............

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 12:23 AM

7. Here's to "THING 1" getting "dogged"

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:10 PM

9. that's rather gross

I just couldn't watch that.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:16 PM

10. LOL! It was a great remake of an early Sci-fi movie...

The remake had a great cast and exquisite special effects. But its not everyone's cup of tea.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:00 PM

4. K&R

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:24 AM

8. thanks for the recommendations.

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