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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:09 PM

Prisoners like Epstein have "virtually no chance of killing themselves!"

The Mysterious, Outrageous Death of Jeffrey Epstein
Itís next to impossible to kill oneself in jailóI know, because Iíve been there.
Judith Miller
August 11, 2019 Politics and law

Here are a few things I know firsthand about being in jail. First and foremost, you have virtually no control over your life and surroundings. You canít get so much as an aspirin without authorization. In most jails, you canít wear a belt, or shoelaces, or keep a razor in your cell. You have no privacy, no sense of dignity, and no rights. And in a well-run jail, high-profile prisoners have virtually no chance of killing themselves.

Epstein was placed on suicide watch on July 23 after being found semi-conscious in his cell with marks on his neck, in what prison officials described at the time as a failed suicide attempt. He was removed from suicide watch six days later, on July 29, and returned to a segregated area of the prison with extra security known as the special housing unit. Why Epstein was removed from suicide watch is a focus of the DOJ investigation. https://www.city-journal.org/jeffrey-epstein

"a focus of a DOJ investigation" LOL!

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Reply Prisoners like Epstein have "virtually no chance of killing themselves!" (Original post)
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 OP
malaise Aug 2019 #1
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #3
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #7
WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #2
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #4
Raster Aug 2019 #5
malaise Aug 2019 #6
Raster Aug 2019 #8
lostnfound Aug 2019 #9
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #10
Raster Aug 2019 #11
lostnfound Aug 2019 #12
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #13
VOX Aug 2019 #14
real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #15

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:11 PM

1. Is that Cheney's Judith Miller?

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:21 PM

3. Apparently it is; but I just found out who she is...

Also, this individual has no sense of loyalty and tends to focus on ANYTHING that is sensational in media, according to Wikipedia. Thanks for the heads-up!

Did you miss my other OP this morning? I took plenty of time researching the topic:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212372658

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:57 PM

7. CHECK OUT THIS SOURCE, malaise:

Jeffrey Epstein Found Injured in NYC Jail Cell After Possible Suicide Attempt: Sources
Epstein was found semi-conscious with marks on his neck, sources said and investigators are trying to piece together exactly what happened
By Jonathan Dienst, Tom Winter and Sarah Fitzpatrick of NBC

New York - Two sources tell News 4 that Epstein may have tried to hang himself, while a third source cautioned that the injuries were not serious and questioned if Epstein might be using it as a way to get a transfer.

A fourth source said an assault has not been ruled out, and that another inmate was questioned. The inmate who investigators have talked to in Lower Manhattan facility has been identified as Nicholas Tartaglione, according to two sources. Tartaglione is a former police officer in Westchester County who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy, then burying their bodies in his yard in Otisville in Orange County, according to court records.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jeffrey-Epstein-Found-Injured-in-NYC-Jail-Cell-After-Possible-Suicide-Attempt-or-Assault-Sources-513174311.html

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:22 PM

4. There it is again! LOL!

The highest suicide rates occur in small jails, according to a Department of Justice report. In jails holding 50 or fewer inmates, the suicide rate was 167 per 100,000; in the largest jails, the suicide rate was 27 per 100,000 inmates, the DOJ said.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:24 PM

5. First off, Judith Miller is a shitsource, and one of the main media LIARS that supported...

...even ENCOURAGED the Iraq War.

Second, City-Journal is a part of the Manhattan Institute:

Fact Sheet: Manhattan Institute

The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research is an extremely conservative, corporate-funded, New York-based policy group.

The Manhattan Institute was founded by former CIA director William J. Casey in 1978. It was originally called the International Center for Economic Policy Studies, renamed the Manhattan Institute in 1980.

The Manhattan Institute is funded largely by major corporations and conservative foundations. According to the group's 10-year review, published in 1990, "by 1989, total contributions had grown to $2,113,000, 41 percent of which came from conservative and/or corporate foundations. Thirty-three percent came from Fortune 500 corporations, chiefly insurance companies and pharmaceutical and chemical manufacturers including $50,000-plus each from Aetna and State From Insurance and $15,000-plus each from Prudential, Exxon, RJR Nabisco, Philip Morris, Bristol-Myers and Pfizer. Total revenue has grown to about $6 million, according to the 1997 edition of The Right Guide. See, Chesebro, "Galileo's Retort: Peter Huber's Junk Scholarship," 42 Am. U.L.Rev. 1637 (1993).

<SNIP, MORE>

https://centerjd.org/content/fact-sheet-manhattan-institute

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THIS IS NOT A VALID SOURCE FOR DU.

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Response to Raster (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:56 PM

6. A first rate ReTHUG hack

with zero credibility

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:08 PM

8. Preach, my Friend...

... and you are being MUCH too kind.

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Response to Raster (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:19 PM

9. Omg that makes me even more suspicious. Judith Miller. Uggh.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:18 PM

10. How about this source: ME!

After college, I got a position as an account executive at a 100,000 watt radio station, in Alabama. I was still naive about media and did not realize what I had - until it was gone. Unlike subsequent jobs, in radio, this station was paying me a SALARY PLUS A 15% COMMISSION. I was also allowed to trade commercials for ALL gasoline expenses.

One day, while rushing to my appointment with a client, I sped up my sports-car to make it through a yellow-light, right in front of a cop, who wrote me a reckless-driving ticket.

Previously, an article on media, had prompted me to apply for a job in television, at a station in the Florida pan-handle. The article accurately reported that big media markets hired people from media-saturated markets in Florida.

After obtaining the television position in Florida, I was driving back to Alabama to make the required court appearance, for reckless driving - a serious traffic offense. On the way home, my sports-car broke down and stranded me overnight in Florida, causing me to be late for court the next day.

Upon reporting to the authorities, only a few hours late - in Alabama - I was jailed immediately, with a relatively high bond. Since I was also charged with "Failure to Appear," no bondsman would provide bond. I had also accumulated a few parking tickets; but none were for parking in a handicapped zone.

While incarcerated, I heard other prisoners talking about the jailers making money by keeping us in jail and thought they were delusional; but they were correct! We were detained in a for-profit facility, similar to the ones used to detain children - some are US citizens - in Florida. While this type of facility does cost city, county and federal taxpayers money, they make a massive profit for every day a prisoner is detained.

Believe it or not, on a couple of the parking tickets I obtained, guards did not deliver me to court on time, which caused other charges to be added.

In fact, everything in the Opening Post about ALL potentially dangerous items that prisoners are not allowed to possess is true.

There was no way to commit suicide in that Alabama Hell-hole.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:22 PM

11. welcome to DU!

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:48 PM

12. I am so sorry that happened to you. For-profit prisons are anti-democratic and un-American

I am so sorry that happened to you. For profit prisons are anti-democratic and un-American.

I definitely donít have trouble believing that they make it hard to commit suicide in prison. I just questioned Judith Millerís motives on basically everything she writes.

And welcome to DU.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:20 PM

13. I am sorry I spent all that media money on sports-cars, women and, uh other eighties stuff...

Instead of putting it in a 401-K, or similar retirement fund I blew the money and now live in a high-crime area of Albuquerque, NM. At least I get to talk to real Native Americans and Hispanics almost every day, instead of Alabama racists.

When I worked at the ONLY African-American radio station in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, with an enormous listenership (WTUG) potential sponsors would say: I know that you have the best numbers in Tuscaloosa; but we don't want those people in our store.

At the end of my college experience at the University of Alabama (the 3rd ranked school of communication, in the nation, at the time) I did an internship with Project R.O.S.E (Recycled Oil Saves Energy), where every Public Relations article I wrote was published verbatim, by the Tuscaloosa News. At the time, people in the area were dumping used motor-oil in the national forest or down sewers.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:33 PM

14. This entire episode has a Russian stench all over it.

Taking out ďenemies of the state,Ē wherever they are, is their specialty.

Nothing is too far-out for them. For Christís sake, they poison their targets in public parks.

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Response to VOX (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:28 PM

15. "For Christ's sake" LOL! do you think that CIA means Christian Internship Association?

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