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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:21 AM

Is Trump separating migrant children to serve global network of pedophiles?

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Many will be slated to be sex trafficked, while most others will be forced into labor jobs to “earn their keep”?

THIS is the questioning narrative activists need to adopt and spread to put these mudderfuckers on defense and force the imagery into the overall debate. Why hasn’t this even been brought up by Democrats on television and in op ed pieces?

The policy of separating children from their families, both, physically and mentally, is the action of those with the mindset of a pedophile and/or a slaveowner. Especially since Trump had his Labor Sec. Alex Acosta CUT FUNDING of the program to combat sextrafficking by a whopping 80%.

THIS is hitting back hard, Dems. Force these questions and force this discussion till the Trumpists are left speechless and forced into investigating the cruelty and illegality of their disgusting policies.

Force them to feel shamed.

Force them to shut it all down.

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Anon-C Aug 2019 #34
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Faux pas Aug 2019 #7
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calimary Aug 2019 #36
Ilsa Aug 2019 #9
Ponietz Aug 2019 #12
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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:25 AM

1. You're not crazy

I live in West Michigan, home of the Devos family. Look into Bethany Christian Services. This is a Devos funded company that is caring for some of the separated children, they are profiting off that care, but they are also after a time adopting these kids out while collecting huge Private Adoption fees.

The Devos family has several businesses set up to profit directly off from the border crisis that Trump created. Also, you do the math, the donors do not want the border crisis solved, period, they are making a mint off from it.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:26 AM

2. No doubt.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:36 AM

3. drumpf included, I'm sure.

Otherwise he really wouldn't care so much.

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Response to lark (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:40 AM

11. Use of poor children for sex & labor has been nonstop for centuries.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:45 AM

4. You are so right v

I still think of the two baby boys, 8 and 11 months old, who were dropped off in Grand Rapids in the middle of the night last year. They are being cared for by good “Christian families”

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Response to secondwind (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:56 AM

5. Trump had Alex Acosta cut funding of sex trafficking program by 80%

https://www.thedailybeast.com/labor-secretary-alex-acosta-who-cut-deal-with-epstein-tried-to-slash-anti-trafficking-budget

If a Dem had pushed for this cut in sex trafficking program funding there would be a relentless investigation.

The GOP is the party of Putin and pedophiles.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

34. C'est ca!

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:16 PM

70. This is the thread to pull.

And just a little perspective for those who are always so quick to guffaw "conspiracy theory!" because they think it makes themselves look like the 'adult in the room':

Most award-winning investigative news stories today usually endure an avalanche of "conspiracy theory" poo-pooing as reporters compile the evidence and even after the evidence is presented. Don't believe me? Then maybe you should ask the Miami Herald reporters who dogged the Epstein story for a decade before rising above the din of the "well-meaning" armchair experts crying "conspiracy theory!"

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:58 AM

6. Great OP

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:37 AM

10. 👍🏼

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:03 AM

7. That was my first thought

back when they started caging them and 'losing' them.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:05 AM

8. Mine, too. Time to start linking the policy with the rich pedophile mindset.

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Response to blm (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:24 AM

19. It just blows my mind

how money and power equals immunity. How in the eff do we end it?

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:40 AM

27. Where are ALL the children? Every single child.

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Response to blm (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:02 PM

36. There IS that. Hundreds of children. Thousands, maybe.

Do we know what happened to ALL of them? Every last one? Taken into custody and then scattered to the four winds with no system in place to track them or where they were sent or who has them now. Was that just stupid, short-sighted, impulsive ignorance for which trump is well-known - or conniving and deliberate, for which he’s also well-known?

When you’re used to getting away with it, whatever that “it” is, over your ENTIRE life, who knows how far you’ll feel like pushing the boundaries by the time you’re in your 70s?

That’s yet another reason why IMPEACHMENT is SO critical and so urgent. He CANNOT be allowed to just keep on getting away with it.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:07 AM

9. K&R nt

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:56 AM

12. Melanie and Drumpfuck posed with a trophy baby in El Paso

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:01 AM

13. I have always thought this. Where are the girls?

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:48 AM

32. Since no one knows where the girls are this was my first thought labor for the boys

and sex trafficking for the girls. There is no way cheapo Trump will pay to take care of these kids.

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #32)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:22 PM

43. EXACTLY. These are NOT nice people. They are the worst

human beings imaginable and have not earned the benefit of the doubt in the entire course of their lives.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:08 AM

14. Sorry, this is kooky, IMO

Full blown conspiracy theory 101. If Trump did it, we'd call it such. And while GOPers might get activated by that level of speculation, it won't have nearly the same sort of messaging effect with the Dem base.

A different and more accurate reference is the taking of native American kinds to be raised by and as Christians.

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Response to zaj (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

15. Epstein, Trump, and Barr's father weren't grooming teens for Christ.

Been going on for eons.

It’s kooky to think it ever stopped, IMO.

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Response to blm (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:19 AM

17. Occams Razor, violent racists want a white nation...

... and will deliver any punishment to get it.

Trump could be a pedophile, he could be a part of a global ring. And taking kids at the border would still be unrelated.

Now, Trump's modeling agency, his sexualizing his own child, his close relationship with Epstein, they are all much more relevant to this investigation than his effort to punish poor brown families for stepping out of his fake Asylum Line at the border.

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Response to zaj (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:37 AM

23. I point to the mindset of pedophiles and slaveowners.

My point is solid and not rebutted by yours. I understand that you disagree.

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Response to zaj (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:23 PM

44. your point argues in favor of the OP

Stealing brown children and selling them to the rich accomplishes the punishment the racists want, provides money to the businesses like DeVos', and still reduces the number of non-white voters.

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Response to zaj (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:45 AM

30. Red Don is a text book white supremacist, runs text book concentration camps full of non-whites, ...

... text book kidnaps children from parents seeking help and is a text book sociopath.

Why would this person NOT being trafficking in children?!

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Response to zaj (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:07 PM

47. I agree

It is just another conspiracy theory not much different than the pizza parlor pedophile ring. It doesn't help the children or Democrats, it is more likely to get Democrats lumped in with the kooks who don't care how ridiculous they sound.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:50 PM

59. Pizza ring was based on fantasy and had NO facts in play.

The connections between Trump, Epstein, Mar a Lago are very real.

The GOP push to eliminate child labor laws is very real.

The push to cut funding for sex trafficking program by 80% as overseen by Epstein protector Alex Acosta is very real.

Pizzagate my ass.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:15 AM

16. Yes! This is what I have been thinking all along!

He and his buddies in Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, and elsewhere, are sex traffickers! They've been doing this for many years and now they found another way to steal them!

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:20 AM

18. Evidence

wouldn't make it a stretch. Accountability is needed. Tracking those kids, but has anyone plumbed whatever system they used to separate, label, track?

Until evidence exists, this theory approaches Pizzagate.

And the biggest hole in the theory hasn't been mentioned. Based on what is publicly known about the Epstein network, this group is of different ethnicity.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:30 AM

22. Different preferences for sex, but, same for child labor. Weakening of child labor laws

has been a priority for GOP. You and others may be satisfied it’s coincidental, but, many of us have learned to question all these coincidences that just happen to have anti-humanistic, anti-democratic policies attached.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:25 AM

20. Great idea.

I just did my part:

Copied your first and third paragraphs (minus the IMO), along with the title, and began sharing!

Thanks for the thoughts and the suggested strategy!

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:25 AM

21. They only cared about the kids

when it was a Clinton in the basement of a pedophile ring.

I just don't hear the same level of outrage or a demand to investigate tRump, who was Epstein's buddy.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:37 AM

24. Find those children. Investigators, please investigate.

And then, reporters...report!

There are sick people in Trumps world. There is ample evidence to prove it. Ask Betsy Devos where the children are. Ask Lindsey Graham where the children are.

Keep asking them, every chance you get!

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:38 AM

25. From the kooky headline I thought that

 

this post would be a satirical rebuke to the dumpster deplorables.

This inane and hysterical conspiracy mongering is not going to get democrats elected or move our nation in a progressive direction. Quite the opposite.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

26. It's a good offensive, but it's also vulnerable to being labeled conspiratorial, wh/ falls into

the "both parties do it" dismissal zone.

The key thing is to get some evidence, any evidence that this is true, to keep the credibility of the argument alive. The Acosta part is only part of a picture that could sink Republicans and MF45.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:41 AM

28. Do you have some evidence for this?

Otherwise it's just a conspiracy theory.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #28)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:49 AM

33. Where is the complete documentation of every child's whereabouts?

No one has seen it, including congress. Let the questions force them to present the documentation. Heck, the constant questioning of Obama’s birth certificate forced him to provide proof. Missing children is WAY more serious.

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Response to blm (Reply #33)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:57 AM

35. The lack of complete documentation does not lead inexorably

to the conclusion that the missing children have been trafficked. It is equally possible that their whereabouts are unknown because CPB and other authorities did a shitty job of record-keeping and simply failed to keep track of them through negligence and incompetence. It's conceivable that some might have been kidnapped or trafficked, but the simple absence of records isn't proof, or even evidence, of that. Of course the children need to be located so they can be reunited with their families, but it's a mistake to automatically attribute to intentional wrongdoing that which can be explained by incompetence. That's where conspiracy theories come from, and without better evidence than just the lack of records, that's all this is.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #35)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:03 PM

38. If that was ALL, I'd agree, but, adding policy decisions like

The cutting of funding for sex trafficking programs, and the pointed attempts to overturn child labor laws, while acknowledging the existence of Trump’s link to Epstein’s pedophile network does add up to questions that deserve to be asked and answered.

You are welcome to disagree.

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Response to blm (Reply #38)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:10 PM

40. I agree that the children need to be located and that the failure to keep track of them

needs to be investigated. If there is an investigation, maybe some evidence of trafficking could be discovered. But that evidence does not exist yet. Trump's funding cuts for trafficking programs and weakening of labor laws could be just as well attributed to his and the GOP's belief that the purpose of government is not to help people and that it should not spend money on programs that do. Also, Epstein's pedophile network seemed to be particularly interested in pretty, middle-class white girls. As far as we know so far, they were doing recruiting, not outright kidnapping. There are questions that need answering, but jumping to conclusions just leads people to discount the accusations as another CT.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #40)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:18 PM

41. Willing to risk that since I'm certainly not a coincidence theorist

who will give these evil beings the benefit of the doubt.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #35)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:12 PM

48. Lack of documentation leads to the inevitable conclusion they are hiding something

for some reason.

Find the children, prove there's no (additional) nefarious intent beyond what is obvious. Otherwise, we have seen time and time again with Trump, when we assume the worst, we always underestimate his ability to do something even worse than the worst.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #48)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:44 PM

57. Thank you for that insightful reply. Common sense should

Prevail on this issue.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #48)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:48 PM

58. +1

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #28)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:13 PM

49. There is zero evidence unless all

those thousands of employees who have worked with and transported the children are all pedophiles and pedophile sympathizers.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #49)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:30 PM

63. Like they kept track of every one?

Not saying every child is headed for sex trafficking or labor camps, but, many might be, and you think it is too preposterous to even ask questions, let alone demand answers.

Suit yourself. I strongly disagree based on previous actions of those involved..

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Response to blm (Reply #63)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:08 PM

69. The children "might be" on a flight to Mars,

using them as guinea pigs to die in a secret government experiment.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #28)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:56 PM

61. do we NEED evidence for this?

the Republicans will not hesitate to use this however they please, no evidence required, just watch
evidence is only for extra credit at this point

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:43 AM

29. There should be some honest, accurate documentation

about what happens to these children -- where is it?

Whisking them away to some private contractor is mighty suspicious...

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:20 PM

42. Add the fact that congress is not allowed to see all documents

And see every facility for themselves.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:45 AM

31. His supporters don't care...

... they think "wickedness" is coming from over the US border and don't really consider them full people.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:02 PM

37. To avoid conspiracy accusations, rephrase it as "Could migrant chlidren be serving pedophiles?"

Then point to the circumstantial evidence that's troubling:
Trump and the GOP can't account for the whereabouts of thousands of these children
Leaders have not been allowed into some facilities housing the girls
Trump hosted parties at Mar al Lago and attended parties at convicted dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's home. They were once close friends. Epstein was accused of forcing girls into the sex trade and even keeping some hostage on his island,taking away their passports.
How do we know these children didn't wind up there, or sold into the sex trade elsewhere?
Unless Trump can come up with proof of where every child wound up, we need to assume the worst could have happened which is why Trump and the GOP must be removed for "losing" children who may well be child prostitutes now.
Betsy DeVos is running an adoption agency and perhaps more (see a post below) profiting off these children in other ways. ripping them from their families and selling them. Who is checking up on the children's welfare? Are they being abused, exploited as child workers or sex workers?

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Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #37)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:09 PM

39. Just did it, Lib.

Thanks. I think your post would be a great OP. I am all in for FORCING the questions. There is too much coincidence involved to NOT demand answers.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:56 PM

45. It sucks when the "best" outcome for the lost kids is...

being shipped off to Cultist Evangelicals to be indoctrinated into some fascist "church."

The worst that can happen to them? I have a pretty dark psyche. What I can imagine is happening to those kids is pretty R/X/XXX rated.

Yes, we need to shut this down.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #45)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:03 AM

67. This WH hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt

On anything, and especially on this issue.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:57 PM

46. This comes off a bit as QAnon-Lite.

I understand where you are coming from, but no need for the narrative to stray from what can be easily proven.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:14 PM

50. NO, that is a whopper of a conspiracy theory

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #50)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:59 PM

53. Been going on for centuries and it suddenly stopped?

Is there a benign reason you can share with us for why so many children are unaccounted for and no one in congress is privy to the details on EVERY child separated?

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Response to blm (Reply #53)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:09 PM

55. So if there is not a begnign reason there must be

a sale of children to pedophiles. That is a conspiracy theory without evidence, and that is what you ae defending.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #55)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:12 PM

56. Too many coincidences for me, but,

You are welcome to believe otherwise.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #50)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:53 PM

60. Text book white supremacists runs text book concentration camp full of immigrant non-whites ...

...and is text book kidnapping children away from said non-whites immigrants seeking help.

The aforementioned text book scumbag had a friend for decades that was a text book pedophile who sold children in the sex slave trade.

The Trump admins deserves the worst thoughts of human kind and none of the benefit of the doubt.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #60)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

68. It is not "benefit of the doubt" it's a fnasty fiction.

The pedophile conspiracy claim deserves to be called what it is, the kind of lie that no decent person would spread.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:20 PM

51. And some countries use them as organ donors and young blood donors.

It pops up in the news every so often and rapidly disappears.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #51)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:01 PM

54. For centuries this has been going on, but, it is too horrible for americans

To think it can happen here. They turn a blind eye willfully.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:56 PM

52. What Happened to All of the Missing Girls in Florida?

P.S. Trumpers have no shame. However, we should still have very pointed and directed anger at the perps.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:23 PM

62. I think it's a great idea!

I can't believe all the responses of, "Oh, it sounds too CT".

Who gives a shit? We're not trying to impress and win over logical, level headed Democrats here, we're trying to win the most consequential election this nation has held since before the Civil War.

It's a great attack line and for all we know, it may well be true. You just know it is in at least some instances

Better start playing hardball folks or your grand kids are liable to end up being actual slaves.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #62)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:36 PM

64. Thank you for getting the entire gist.

In reverse, Republicans would run an all out blitz on Dems with less than 1% of the information in play.

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Response to blm (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:35 AM

65. Actually, that was my first assumption when he started kidnapping them. n/t

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #65)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:53 AM

66. Mine, too. It was way past time to post these questions, and,

I see many here had them all along.

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