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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:47 AM

Is the GOP still the "party of Reagan"? Oh, very much so.

Donald and Ronald
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Joe has a real need to say that today's Republican Party - Trump's party in his eyes - is significantly different from the party he supported and served, which was, he routinely says, "the party of Lincoln and Reagan".

President Abraham Lincoln died more than 150 years ago. The "Solid South" was so enraged at him for beating them in the Civil War and at his party for ending slavery that they voted Democrat for the next 100 years. Then the Democrats started supporting civil rights for people of colour. The Republicans saw the opportunity, courted them and flipped them. The Solid South is now theirs. It has been a long time since the Republican Party has been "the party of Lincoln". Let us put that aside.

Is the GOP still the "party of Reagan"? Oh, very much so. And I was recently reminded exactly how much while re-reading a book I wrote during his presidency back in the 1980s: "You Get What You Pay For". As I flipped through the pages, I found myself saying, over and over again, "that's just like Trump".

Joe constantly points out that Trump started his campaign with racism, riding down the escalator, attacking Mexicans. Joe thinks this illustrates a difference.

But Ronald Reagan also started his presidential campaign with racism. He chose to make his kick-off speech in the heart of the Solid South, in Mississippi, quite near where three civil rights workers had been murdered. He said, "I believe in states' rights." It was the biggest dog whistle of the day, code for segregation, and the crowd cheered.

He continued: "... we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment." It had been the Republican Party that had tried to impose integration after the Civil War. Reagan was making it clear that his party was completely divorcing itself from Lincoln's vision.

It was not a one-off. Reagan ran against the "welfare queens" and against "the strapping bucks" who stood in front of you at the supermarket, buying steaks with food stamps, while you made do with hamburger helper, earned by the honest sweat of your brow. It was a brilliant strategy that turned government programmes into handouts to minorities with money stolen - through taxes - from good white people.

It was called the Southern Strategy. Reagan did not invent it. But he sold it with warmth, charm, and a smile.

What he brought to the presidency that was really original was making up stories and never being embarrassed that they were not true. He made up a tale about a mysterious stranger who gave the Founding Fathers the courage to sign the Declaration of Independence.

He loved the tale of a bomber pilot who decided not to parachute from his shot-up plane in order to stay and comfort a wounded member of his crew as they plunged to the ground and received the Congressional Medal of Honor ... posthumously ... and told it often, although it had only happened in a movie.

He said that he had been present at the liberation of a concentration camp during World War II, though he had never left Hollywood.

It used to be that being caught in a lie harmed your credibility, but Reagan, for the most part, got away with it. In doing so he set a new standard that opened the tarnished road that Trump rides down on today.

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So, Joe, and all the ex-Republicans, and the upright Establishmentarians, Trump may be vulgar, Trump may be abrasive, but in terms of racism, corruption, and destruction, he is Mr Reagan's true heir. Trump's Republican Party is what it has been at least since the 1980s, only more so.

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dajoki Aug 12 OP
pangaia Aug 12 #1
dajoki Aug 12 #4
vlyons Aug 12 #2
genxlib Aug 12 #3
dajoki Aug 12 #6
CareerGuyMA Aug 12 #5
The Genealogist Aug 12 #7

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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:52 AM

1. a direct line from reagan, and even before...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:54 AM

4. Yes, way before n/t

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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:54 AM

2. as Calif gov, Reagan was an SOB then also

He shut down insane asylums and turned mentally ill people out on the streets to fend for themselves. Reagan, the has-been B actor, worked for GE as a spokesman and travelled extensively promoting the virtues of corporate capitalism.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:54 AM

3. Yes, except...

Reagan would be spinning in his grave if he knew the extent that the GOP had surrendered to the Russians.

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Response to genxlib (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:04 AM

6. Maybe?

If he would have needed their help?

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:11 AM

5. Joe Scarborough

He is obviously going to run for republican
nomination in 2024. Gonna run as a
Reagan Republican. Watch. Gotta rehab that rep.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:19 AM

7. I maintain that the difference is in how the message gets delivered

Reagan and those like him did excel in dog whistling to bigots and hatemongers. They wanted and continue to want to appeal to a broad group of people. Trump doesn't hide his bigotry and racism behind dog whistles, he just blurts out what is on his mind. I am quite sure that the dog whistlers get right anxious about their thin patina of respectibility being wiped off by Trump.

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