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RandySF

(58,509 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:27 PM Jan 2012

Romney’s New Attack: Obama’s A Chicago-Style Crook!

So it was inevitable that we’d get to this point. It may have come a little earlier than expected, but of course at some point Mitt Romney would accuse Obama of “Chicago-style” politics. And, like sun rise follows sun set, Romney lobbed the charge at Obama Wednesday after the appointment of Richard Cordray to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

“This action represents Chicago-style politics at its worst and is precisely what then-Senator Obama claimed would be ‘the wrong thing to do,” Romney said in a statement after Obama’s high-profile recess appointment.

Thursday morning in New Hampshire, Romney kept it up, attacking Obama for his “crony capitalism,” which blends nicely with the “he’s from Chicago, be afraid” messaging.



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Cerridwen

(13,252 posts)
4. morman mafia, willard.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jan 2012

I strongly suggest, willard, you not remind people of crime syndicates lest your own church's history come flying out of various, rather full, closets.

Let's start with e. thomas perry, the only banker in the U.S. ready, willing, and able to provide bank loans to mob bosses for NV casinos. Then we can move on to taking over government divisions and agencies and blocking all non lds applicants. Shall we talk about welfare fraud? Maybe someone should look closely at the distance between church and state in UT?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. Actually, that one has been seen a fair amount on this board as well
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jan 2012

The Chicago bigotry is amazing, and as a current resident of the Windy City, I resent it!

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
13. And there are so many errors associated with this bigotry.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jan 2012

- Obama was elected as an outside "reform" candidate running outside the Machine. So even if the bigotry were accurate, it would not apply to Obama.


- People typically associate Capone with Chicago Democrats when, as we all know, Capone ruled the roost when Chicago had one party rule under Republicans during the era between the Civil War and the Great Depression. Republican mafia ties is a good part of why Chicago has been so solidly Democratic ever since.


- Further to that point, if the mob had the wholesale influence on all things Chicago as they suppose, then Chicago would be Republican! Even pointing to the Mafia/Republican strongholds of Cicero and Rosement does nothing to combat this bigotry as the response I usually get in the country is "it's all still Chicago".

Sidebar: to the person who feels the need to point out that some Chicago Democrats have been in bed with the mafia as well ... yes, we all know that not every Democrat is an angel and every Republican a devil. But the Democratic Machine has *never* approached the level of mafioso involvement of Cook County Republicans.


- As a rule, the Feds do not get to launch investigations on a whim. They need cause. When a Federal case in New York wound up a few years back the New York delegation in Congress put immediate pressure on the Department of Justice to close the case so the Feds could not continue a never-ending fishing expedition. Conversely, Chicago and Cook County have had an ongoing Federal investigation going since the 1920s! No large, and few small, bodies in the world could go through that kind of scrutiny without turning up some dirt from time to time.


Having grown up on a farm just north of Kentucky with a father who knew "where the bodies were buried" so to speak, I know almost firsthand the level of corruption you find in rural communities. Where I grew up it was nearly 100% pervasive. My brother got elected to the county 4-H fair board of all things and ran face full into corruption.

One time the county prosecutor died in office. The governor, from the party in minority in that rural county, got to appoint an outside prosecutor from his party. Half the politicians were in jail before the next election.

I argued this point with a rural DUer once. In my first post I pointed out how corruption works in rural areas. Useful idiots, who wouldn't trust a nun if she came from Chicago, know for absolute certain that the politicians in their town/county are clean because they've known them since kindergarten and just "know" that they would never do anything wrong. And what was the rural DUer's argument against that?

"I've known these people since we were kids and know for a fact that they are good people."

I just had to laugh. Their local pols go to church, help in the community, love their kids, etc. What? And Chicago pols don't? A lot of rural folk seem to believe that crooked pols walk around twirling their handlebar mustaches and laughing an evil laugh.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
7. Fuck off, Mittens.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jan 2012

I'm fuckin' tired of the "Chicago-style politics" crap. I can guarantee the "small" two-bit fucking horse town I live in has 1,000 times more corruption per capita than Chicago. Oh, and asshole? Chicago hates you and your plastic face.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
9. Dear Mittens: Go away, they just aren't that into you.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jan 2012

After all that money and a decade of campaigning you almost lost to Santorum..........



Bake

(21,977 posts)
14. If he's the nominee, and that's the best he's got ... we've got no worries!
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jan 2012

Ooooh! He's from CHICAGO!!! He's a BLACK MAN!!

Yawn.

Give up now, Mitt. You're already beaten.

Bake

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
16. No
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jan 2012

He was a State Senator in the Illinois Legislature from 1997-2004 (seven years), but before that, he spent the years 1985-88 as a community organizer for the Developing Community Project (I'd call that being in Chicago politics, since you had to deal with aldermen, City Council, and City Hall to do it); ran Project Vote for Illinois for a year in 1992; he ran an unsuccessful campaign for Bobby Rush's US House seat in 1999-2000, etc.

So I'd say he had a minimum of 12 years heavily involved in politics in Illinois, vs. 4 in the Senate and 3 in the WH in D.C. But being in the Senate does not mean you've lost connection with your home-state constituency.

I think the point to be made is: it's a baseless charge. Not everyone is a machine politician, either in Illinois or Chicago.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
17. Whatever the hell that is.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jan 2012

I was born and raised in Chicago. I have lived all over the country. I fail to see how their politics and their crooks differ from those elsewhere.

And, how amusing that a corporate raider is accusing someone else of "crony capitalism". What a putz, to put it mildly.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
18. It's telling that even as Romney turns his guns towards Obama,
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:02 PM
Jan 2012

the rest of the GOP field is turning their guns towards Romney.

Whose boat will get sunk quicker?

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